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iPad mini AnandTech's iPad mini w/ Retina review is out!

KPOM said:
I think it's more the thermals. Because it can dissipate heat better, it can sustain maximum performance for longer.
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Ah yeah, that's what I meant by "different arrangement of the chip", I.e not having the RAM directly on top of the chip, among other things outlined on the review, resulting in better thermals. Sorry, should of worded it better.
 
jterp7 said:
Hard data proves it provides a smaller gamut. Whether or not that matters is up to you, but don't dismiss the data.
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People thought MacRumors folks were loons. It turns out that we weren't seeing things. Apple gimped the Gamut.
 
ZBoater said:
I am not dismissing anything. I am pointing out the FACT that the review refers to the biggest issue of a smaller gamut being that competitors have a larger one. And the FACT that the iPad Mini WIPES THE FLOOR with those competitors in terms of battery life.
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Yeah, I wouldn't say that.

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I have a rMini and a N7, they are both great devices and the N7 is more accurate color-wise, there's no need to get upset because it's not an Apple device -- the choice is available to people based on budget, needs and preference. Let's not forget that one is 1/2 the cost of the other as well, which is more factual than you claiming it wipes the floor in terms of battery life.
 
ZBoater said:
Can you link to this "official" confirmation of inferiority? Because all I read was a third party review that said the screen covered a smaller gamut, but the reviewer would still pick the Mini over the Air.

And is a smaller gamut "inferior" to the Android tablets? What's the battery life on those tablets??? Was this a conscious design decision to maintain excellent battery life or a machiavellical scheme by Apple to push "inferior" displays to maximize profit?

Geez Louise.
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He has a point though...when you are charging double the price sometimes a compromise is a compromise. The review makes it harder for me to return the rMini. You are right about the tin foil in his post.
 
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Anti-Lucifer said:
^^^Zboater - sorry man, it's inferior because it's the same as a mini 1 and yes, the choice comes down to personal preference but you didn't read this clearly:

"I suspect the justification here is Apple likely views the bigger iPad as being a better fit for photographers/those who care about color reproduction, but it’s a shame that this is a tradeoff that exists between the two iPads especially given how good Apple is about sRGB coverage in nearly all of its other displays."
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it's the same as the mini1?
 
Certainly an influential review : I just cancelled the Mini retina in favour of the Air.
Use as a photo editor while traveling is one of my main uses.
 
DisplacedMic said:
it's the same as the mini1?
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It's slightly better, but still only about 60-70% of sRGB

AdonisSMU said:
People thought MacRumors folks were loons. It turns out that we weren't seeing things. Apple gimped the Gamut.
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"Gimp" is a bit of a strong word. They made a design compromise. Look at the battery life difference between the Nexus 7 and the Retina iPad mini. Perhaps the LEDs required to achieve full sRGB would have "gimped" the battery life.

I am happy with the iPad mini's screen.
 
Nozuka said:
i'm pretty sure they'll fix that with the next ipad mini, since the competition seems to be better in this area.
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I doubt it. The lower gamut on the Mini 2 was a design decision and was probably made for heating or power consumption reasons. It was not a manufacturing defect since all the Mini 2 displays behave the same regardless of vendor.

Anti-Lucifer said:
Hope to see you around the "how much is my mini retina worth" threads when the mini 3 comes out with the right display.
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The Mini 3 will have the same display.
 
syd430 said:
I'm paraphrasing the review itself , take it up with Anand if you have a problem with it, not me.

His exact words were:

" That might sound like a minor difference, but it’s far more pronounced when you look at what happens to frequency when you’re running heavy workloads."

Which is even stronger than what I said. So why don't you send him an email and let him know how much of a hardware expert you are, instead of directing your remark towards me?

And the benchmarks are in the review.
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Because you are the one mid-paraphrasing here, not him :rolleyes:

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plasticmoz said:
...which is more factual than you claiming it wipes the floor in terms of battery life.
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I got nowhere near 10-12 hours of use out of my Nexus 7.2.
 
KPOM said:
It's slightly better, but still only about 60-70% of sRGB



"Gimp" is a bit of a strong word. They made a design compromise. Look at the battery life difference between the Nexus 7 and the Retina iPad mini. Perhaps the LEDs required to achieve full sRGB would have "gimped" the battery life.

I am happy with the iPad mini's screen.
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Good point. There may have been a legitimate reason to gimp the gamut.
 
Anti-Lucifer said:
I have moved on; to iPad AIR. Good luck with your mini 2. Hope to see you around the "how much is my mini retina worth" threads when the mini 3 comes out with the right display.
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which the people selling their Air to buy the Air 2 will be cluttering up just the same.
 
How many other tablets out there with that many pixels in that size of a screen? The nexus and other tablets have a much smaller display so they may have similar density but obviously less pixels. Could come down to cost. Apple has to look at their bottom line.

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DisplacedMic said:
which the people selling their Air to buy the Air 2 will be cluttering up just the same.
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Even more so if there is a resolution change. To me that's a bigger change than this color issue. The consumer looking for a second hand product won't even notice the color difference but will know about a resolution change.
 
bidwalj said:
I won't be so surprised if it's actually you saying that. If the rumors of apple doubling the resolution of the air/pro, your air indeed will be old news, with less real estate, etc (I own an air too so I'm not bashing if anyone wants to take it there)
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Are you new to how technology works? You could say that same thing about ANY current tablet/piece of tech
 
To everyone saying they need a full gamut screen because they edit photos professionally and "need" this for their job, what were you using BEFORE this came out? I mean, it's been available for like 5 days. What were you doing before this? It just seems like so many people are outraged that they can't do their job with this thing, but no one said you HAD to use it.

I can see someone saying something like 'I was GOING to use this for my job, but it won't meet my needs'. But most posts to me read more like 'HOW DARE APPLE PUT IN A CRAPPY DISPLAY?! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO MY JOB NOW?!'

Ok I'll shut up now since I'm happy with my rMini and will come back here in a month when this has died down.
 
I'm at a stage where I speed read initial reviews and devote an hour to AnandTech reviews.

Keeping my eye out for 32GB Space Gray Verizon.

Spoiler 10 out of 10.
 
FWIW my iPad mini retina seems pretty damn near flawless.

Hate that there's some lag here and there but otherwise the screen is nice and bright, the colors are good to my eyes, and I'm all around pleased.
 
cababah said:
Are you new to how technology works? You could say that same thing about ANY current tablet/piece of tech
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I actually sell all my old stuff, lose a bunch so I'm not new. I know how the used market works. My point is this color issue alone will not drop the value like some are pointing out. They both will drop obviously but if you want start looking for factors a resolution bump is a bigger change than adjustment of colors
 
technopimp said:
To everyone saying they need a full gamut screen because they edit photos professionally and "need" this for their job, what were you using BEFORE this came out? I mean, it's been available for like 5 days. What were you doing before this? It just seems like so many people are outraged that they can't do their job with this thing, but no one said you HAD to use it.

I can see someone saying something like 'I was GOING to use this for my job, but it won't meet my needs'. But most posts to me read more like 'HOW DARE APPLE PUT IN A CRAPPY DISPLAY?! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO MY JOB NOW?!'

Ok I'll shut up now since I'm happy with my rMini and will come back here in a month when this has died down.
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They can edit photos on a Nexus 7.... :D
 
Keep in mind the Nexus 7 has 35% less screen area (lower diagonal size and thinner aspect ratio), hence much less power required for backlighting.
 
RVijay007 said:
"Apple sampled me a black Smart Cover and a Product Red Smart Case for the iPad mini. I thought both looked great on the space grey mini. It’s worth pointing out that the red Smart Case is a less saturated color than the red Smart Cover I evaluated with the iPad Air."

Even the Smart Case has color gamut issues!!!
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shadowjeff said:
"It’s worth pointing out that the red Smart Case is a less saturated color than the red Smart Cover I evaluated with the iPad Air."

OH EM GEE even the red from the mini's case is less saturated than the air's cover!
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Smear Cover is polyurethane, Smart Case is leather. Of course they have different color saturation!
 
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