Android has gained significant market share in key markets.

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[apolloa]

I think it's an encouraging sign to be honest. Apple are under pressure to deliver this year not next and they have quite a leap to make. The latest Android offerings have got me interested and I'm quite keen to find a cheaper handset this time around.

Well seeing as it seems more and more likely Apple is going to skip a year with it's iPhone, it will need all the 'persuasion' it can get to make a decent phone in 2017 although I think it's share price will be half or a third of what it is now by then.

Android is certainly where it's currently at.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Not quite. I'm interested in seeing the list of the best-selling devices, not the best-selling vendors.

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/Galaxy-S7-cracks-Top-5-for-the-quarter

Launched on March 11th, the Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge became an immediate hit among US consumers, capturing 5.8% of Q1 2016 smartphone sales. The Galaxy S7 was the fifth best-selling phone in Q116 despite only being available for the last few weeks of the sales period. The same cannot be said of its predecessor, the Galaxy S6, which was the 10th best-selling smartphone (3.2%), after its launch in the three months ending in April 2015.

With strong sales in the first few weeks boasted by heavy promotions across carrier and independent retailers, we can well expect the Galaxy S7 to become the best-selling phone in Q2 of this year. The Galaxy S6 was never able to capture the top spot, remaining the second best-selling phone behind the iPhone 6, and then the iPhone 6s. As the big promotions subside and are replaced by smaller and subtler deals, how will the S7 fare?

 

[lowendlinux]

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/Galaxy-S7-cracks-Top-5-for-the-quarter

I just don't get the appeal of that phone the screen is kinda neat but the overall package is just so meh

 

[Radon87000]

Market share is a metric, but how relevant it is to anything is a question. ask Samsung if market share leads to profit and I market alone can sustain a business?

At least Samsung with the S7 didn't have as bad a quarter as Apple did.S7 is selling like hotcakes while the iPhone with its dated design doesn't come close

 

[ozaz]

At least Samsung with the S7 didn't have as bad a quarter as Apple did.S7 is selling like hotcakes while the iPhone with its dated design doesn't come close

Where is your evidence that S7 sells more than iPhone?

 

[I7guy]

At least Samsung with the S7 didn't have as bad a quarter as Apple did.S7 is selling like hotcakes while the iPhone with its dated design doesn't come close

You're right, Apple only made 40b last quarter. And is still the most valuable company in the world. How bad could it be?

 

[2ilent8cho]

At least Samsung with the S7 didn't have as bad a quarter as Apple did.S7 is selling like hotcakes while the iPhone with its dated design doesn't come close

Well it would seem like its selling like hotcakes when they had 2 massive sales flops with the S5 and S6.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

At least Samsung with the S7 didn't have as bad a quarter as Apple did.S7 is selling like hotcakes while the iPhone with its dated design doesn't come close

I quite like my antique iPhone 6 lol

 

[epicrayban]

You're right, Apple only made 40b last quarter. And is still the most valuable company in the world. How bad could it be?

Google Again Surpasses Apple as Most Valuable Company in the World

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/12/google-most-valuable-company-market-cap/


Does this explain away any of Google's shortcomings with Android?

 

[I7guy]

Google Again Surpasses Apple as Most Valuable Company in the World

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/12/google-most-valuable-company-market-cap/


Does this explain away any of Google's shortcomings with Android?

Awwww okay the 2nd most valuable company NOW, but a flip flop is coming.

 

[epicrayban]

Awwww okay the 2nd most valuable company NOW, but a flip flop is coming.

Just correcting you.

Regardless of first or second, does this explain away any of Google's shortcomings with Android?


EDIT: Nothing, @I7guy? No answer? Again, just looking to get some clarity on your position, especially as an Apple fan.

 

[I7guy]

Just correcting you.

Regardless of first or second, does this explain away any of Google's shortcomings with Android?


EDIT: Nothing, @I7guy? No answer? Again, just looking to get some clarity on your position, especially as an Apple fan.

Between all of the witty repartee you know my position, I've stated it and it hasn't changed.

 

[samcraig]

You're right, Apple only made 40b last quarter. And is still the most valuable company in the world. How bad could it be?

Again you bring in $$ when the thread and stat is about marketshare.

 

[epicrayban]

Between all of the witty repartee you know my position, I've stated it and it hasn't changed.

If you've answered it, I missed it. Not going to dig through your post history, so if you can, please clarify here?

Does Google's current number 1 position as most valuable company in the world excuse them of any of Android's shortcomings?


EDIT: @I7guy Another thing: there has been no witty remarks from me to you in these recent exchanges. If anything, the quote I responded to of yours had the witty remark:

You wrote...

You're right, Apple only made 40b last quarter. And is still the most valuable company in the world. How bad could it be?

And I responded with a simple correction, and then asked you the question. So, no witty remarks. No sarcasm. No name calling. Nothing.

Just a question.

Given that, will you answer?

 

[apolloa]

Awwww okay the 2nd most valuable company NOW, but a flip flop is coming.

I suggest you change your tune, their is a plan to float an oil company across three stock markets in different country's which will value it at 2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS.

It will flatten any willy waving argument about which electronics company is the most valuable company in the world in one fell swoop...

 

[I7guy]

I suggest you change your tune, their is a plan to float an oil company across three stock markets in different country's which will value it at 2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS.

It will flatten any willy waving argument about which electronics company is the most valuable company in the world in one fell swoop...

And this affects us how?

 

[epicrayban]

@I7guy no answer still?

So mum all of a sudden.

Logically speaking, what is true for Apple should be true for Google. Right?

Just like what was true for Samsung and the note 5 s pen "bad design" must be true for Apple and the magic mouse design too right?

You were awfully mum about that too when asked about the discrepancy there.

Strange. Well if you won't clarify your position, there are only so many conclusions one can draw.

 

[samcraig]

And this affects us how?

It must affect you in some way for you to me emotionally attached to the argument. I would assume that Apple and Google will exchange positions many times over the course of this year and into the future. Both companies are hugely successful and deserve credit for their respective business models and achievements.

 

[epicrayban]

It must affect you in some way for you to me emotionally attached to the argument. I would assume that Apple and Google will exchange positions many times over the course of this year and into the future. Both companies are hugely successful and deserve credit for their respective business models and achievements.

In response to the bold, yup, no doubt about it.

The point is no matter who is at the top, we can discuss and compare their respective technologies independent of sales and profits and market share and other such financial metrics. In fact, we must.

Because if sales and profits is all some people wanna go by, then by that logic, Google currently must have the best smartphones. And any shortcomings they have that people want to discuss must conflict with the millions of Android users that are happy with Android as evidenced by the #1 value position and market share.

One can easily see how silly such an argument is.

Everyone except, i7guy, I guess? He won't answer the question, so who knows.

 

[I7guy]

@I7guy no answer still?

So mum all of a sudden.

Logically speaking, what is true for Apple should be true for Google. Right?

Just like what was true for Samsung and the note 5 s pen "bad design" must be true for Apple and the magic mouse design too right?

You were awfully mum about that too when asked about the discrepancy there.

Strange. Well if you won't clarify your position, there are only so many conclusions one can draw.

Isnt this about market share and what market share means? But hey you asked about the mouse and maybe Apple could have done better but the design is not flawed unless you consider the connector aspect of it all and breaking the connector off if your an abject klutz.

There is just no need to keep rehashing the mouse or the spen. It's not a conversation for this particular thread.

 

[epicrayban]

Isnt this about market share and what market share means? But hey you asked about the mouse and maybe Apple could have done better but the design is not flawed unless you consider the connector aspect of it all and breaking the connector off if your an abject klutz.

There is just no need to keep rehashing the mouse or the spen. It's not a conversation for this particular thread.

Just using it as an example of another odd discrepancy in your arguments.

But you know what, you're right. It has little to do with market share. Whereas you brought up Apple's 40 billion dollar last quarter (and in a sarcastic way) and how they're the most valuable company in the world. Turns out they're not, which led to my question.

So, will you answer it? You're clearly reading this thread. Should Google being number 1 currently in value and marketshare be used as some kind of defense for any of Android's shortcomings? I ask because it seems that's what you do when Apple is at the top; something along the lines of how millions of users are buying Apple iPhones just fine so Apple doesn't need to compete harder or anything. Etc. Going by that, it seems reasonable you'd feel the same way about Google and Android given the metrics shown to you here. Right?

I mean, if you won't answer the question, we can only draw so many conclusions given the precedence of your arguments. Or is this argument of yours somehow only applicable to Apple?

If only you'd explain... =/

 

[gotluck]

Apple is judged to a different standard by many indeed

 

[epicrayban]

Apple is judged to a different standard by many indeed

Yep.

Unless i7guy explains, that's the only conclusion I can draw, too.

 

[Technarchy]

Android has had a much larger overall market share compared to Apple for many years.

Why is this information special in any way? There are more PC's sold than Macs as well.