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Android in Decline?
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The population of the UK is only 67m, so…
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide
If anything then iOS is in decline.
if anything it shows how many low end android phones that’s on the market. Mid to high end phones the iPhone will always dominate. The 300-400 price is what helps android dominate overall sales. When hundreds of phones are out each user at different price points a company like Apple which brings out 4-5 phones a year the numbers are always going to be off
The phones people talk about and are promoted the iPhone is still the market leader. Generally iPhones sell more in the first weekend to launch than most flagship android phone sell all year. Just the way it is and why countries like US and UK the iPhone is the main phones to buy
interesting. good for you. I am not brave enough to use a phone that doesn't have the latest security patch. Going by the Android subreddit, a lot of people are upset at Android's updates. Also with iOS not allowing other apps to track you, unless Android does the same (which is very unlikely), more and more people will move away from Android
There are many Android phones such as Oppo that doesn't have that problem, also Samsung releases security updates and I have 2 year old Huawei which still gets updates ( I use iPhone 12 mini as my main phone), but it still receives updates.
Never really had problems with such things since 2016
Most people in the countries I've lived use Samsung and not cheap ones. I am kind of alone with my iPhone. I really dont know anyone that would use iOS or macOS.
Also, compare iPhone SE 2 and Samsung A52, I'd go with Samsung A52 any day, but later decided to go with iPhone 12 mini and so far I dont regret it. The US and the UK isn't the whole world and Android will always lead, because of India and many African countries and most of the EU uses Android anyway.
In my country iPhone has never been a top selling phone. Just checked, OnePlus Nord N10 5G was the most sold phone in my country in 2021 February. Never even heard of it.
Mainly Chinese brands are the most sold in most of Europe anyway, so Android will always lead.
Many people I know in real life just bash Apple and would never use their products for whatever reason.
When the iPhone 7 launched I ended up going for the 6S instead which nearly 5 years on is being used by my daughter with a new battery. That phone is an absolute beast and scarily fast after all these years
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compare that to Galaxy S6 or the bootloop king LG G4 that released the same yearWhen the iPhone 7 launched I ended up going for the 6S instead which nearly 5 years on is being used by my daughter with a new battery. That phone is an absolute beast and scarily fast after all these years.
The biggest issue with Android, as I see it, is what's termed "fragmentation". Many phone makers don't care about anything but selling product, and so to that end do as little as possible to support or update deployed units. That's a major part of why Google several years ago had to start unbundling things from the OS itself and do independent component updates.
I have two issues with iPhones. First, they are very restrictive, unlike Android-based units. Second, they are insanely expensive for the paltry specs. $699 is a low end iPhone price: it's an upper midrange Android price.
I have two issues with iPhones. First, they are very restrictive, unlike Android-based units. Second, they are insanely expensive for the paltry specs. $699 is a low end iPhone price: it's an upper midrange Android price.
All due respect though but a S8 still works fine to this day for many it's just not getting any updates. I understand the security measures and people "want to be certain" but when you log onto your bank your going through their encryption measures so you have security on that device for the things that matter mostly like money.
I've need had a android phone that actually had malware it's just mostly pushed online but these blogs and websites.
I really miss android I'm just looking into the cheapest way to get back to android without losing a bunch of money.
IOS is just terrible to me, sorry I can't even hide it anymore. Even the crappy do not disturb and the alarm feature is buried deep in the settings menu.
The Palm Pre was way better with software besides the extremely show speed on the phone.
But do those upper midrange Android phones have better processor, camera, water resistance, wireless charging, security than the 'low end' iPhone? for equal features, you have to go for 'ultra' flagships which cost upwards of 1k.
Also, iPhones last significantly longer. A galaxy S7 or the first pixel is outdated while the iPhone 7 is still quite usable and gets updates.
Samsung's midrange phones get updates for 3 years (major Android upgrades) and security updates for 2 years. My guess is you'd upgrade your phone by that time no matter what.
Same with many Oppo phones. The only negative side on Android is bloatware, which can be removed, but yeah…
Ps. I'd recommend Samsung Galaxy A52 over Samsung Galaxy A72. 72 is pretty much the same as Samsung Galaxy A 71.
compare that to Galaxy S6 or the bootloop king LG G4 that released the same year
An old fella where I work has an S6 and I recently had to help him with something on it. That phone is so laggy now and I couldn’t use it pwrsonally. My old 6S is still handling tasks very well.
Just fyi, my iPhone 5s crashes and is lagging a lot + battery is bad. My Sony Xperia L has no issues.
Yup, works pretty smoothly, but software has been out of date for years, but it's really smooth. Runs KitKat. My Motorola has 2GB of RAM and is way slower than my Sony (not joking). Also, Xperia L has still better battery than the iPhone 5s.
I am slowly switching to iPhone 12 and will throw all of my phones out so I won't be able to compare in the future, but yeah.
That’s good to know. I was talking about the S6 because someone else mentioned it. It’s good to know these old devices still get the latest updates.
My Sony Xperia hasn't received updates in years, but it's still fast is what I said. My old Motorola receives updates though, but it has Android 9 and it's from 2018. Still quite good for $100 phone and now Samsung devices start receiving 3 OS upgrades +2 years of security updates.
There are more on updates on Android than "oh it gets x years of updates."
First, there's the Android version upgrade. Most Android phones would get at least one major version upgrade. Only Pixel and Samsung that promised 3 years of upgrades. The rest like Oppo, Vivo, etc are so inconsistent that most of their mid-rangers and lower don't even get a single version upgrade. (this is why I balked when these companies are trying to charge $1000 for their flagships. Complete waste of money as they have zero track on software support).
Then there's monthly security patches. Google send these monthly patches to OEMs 1 month in advance very month. Again, Pixel and Samsung lead the way. But for Samsung, it's not the complete story. Only their flagship lineups (S series, Fold series, Note series) get the security patches monthly, with few exceptions on models that has enterprise ready status. The rest of the lineup, even the premium A7x series, only get the security patches quarterly. To me this is unacceptable since Google has made it so easy to apply these patches. Security patches are that, security patches. There should not be any reason to not apply them in a timely manner. This is why I decided to go all the way, traded in my A71 to an S21. As for the Chinese, they are inconsistent. Many do give security patches, but there's almost no pattern to it.
Oh and for Samsung promising 4 years of security patches? Cross that out. Just read it as 3 years of security patches. Why? The 4th year is biannual delivery, meaning you will only get 2 security patches in 1 year. That's just BS. It's better than nothing, sure, but again, Google has made it so simple to apply these. It's so easy that some OEMs were caught that they just changed the text to fool users into thinking they have the latest security patches, without actually applying the patch. These attitude towards security is inexcusable imo.
In short, best of the best on Android are still Google Pixel and Samsung with 3 years of software updates. Still a far cry from Apple, obviously. This is also a reminder whenever the likes of Oppo or Vivo are trying to sell their phones for $1000 (Oppo Find X3 Pro is about $1100 in my country). No way jose. Paying $1000 for only 1 year of software support at best is ridiculous. Might as well get an iPhone if you have that kind of money.
Depends.
Imo Android is still king in SE Asia. Apple's lack of presence and focus in the region is to blame. Apple focuses so much on China that Samsung managed to gobble up majority of the market share in the region. Although many people want an iPhone, most cannot afford it simply because Apple's local pricing, making iPhones more expensive in the region than they actually are, especially when compared to Japan/US. Meanwhile Samsung had many local manufacturing that their pricing (and their aggressive marketing with bonuses and trade in promos) that Samsung has a huge advantage.
I think that's a sad statement, we should (and many of us do) enjoy our privacy without needing to live off the grid. I think you're wrong that using technology requires that we give up all of our personal details. I for one work at protecting my privacy and its not very hard.
Exactly. Even if iPhones cost more initially, it ends up being cheaper considering how long it can be used securely and its resale value
You forgot to add that Oppo releases new phones all the time. People bash Apple for releasing phones (which isn't often at all), but Oppo releases new versions of their phones all the time.
Personally, I have Huawei Y5 as well and it still receives security updates and same with Motorola. Both were dirt cheap but do receive security updates.
Also, Samsung A72 is almost the same as A71. You'd get more with A52 which is cheaper. Also, when it comes to Sony, they're pathetic with their support. Yes, I mentioned that Sony Xperia L is still smooth (and honestly, it is) but it hasn't seen a single security update in at least 5 years.
A7x isn't premium though. A series are midrange series.I'm surprised with Huawei still giving my phone security updates despite what has happened.
Recently, I bought iPhone 12 mini and I'm slowly moving to it and getting rid of all of my other phones.