yeah the fold 3 is the best mini tablet you can buy but yes I get the concern with the price for many but in certain regions I'm sure people could get it for less than 1k. which get is still too much for many but for me this usage is working great.
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Have they fixed the 'crease bug' with their Folds yet? I also like the idea, and the thickness is like a slider phone. I wish you could use the folding portion to have a keyboard on one half and the screen on the other so you got a modern version of a slider phone, or use half the screen for gaming controls so you got a modern Xperia Play.
Takes me back to the Psion 3c. I can imagine a version which allowed the screen to unfold into double the area. (Plus a bit as the bezels were very wide.) And at least some small status screen visible without opening it up.
Speaking of which, its implementation of a word processor which was (more or less) compatible with Word, allowed you to specify a negative "Space before paragraph". Something I wish Word had.
Yeah I was just thinking Nexus 7 had a nice little screen and was a good intro to Android OS before I jumped into an Android phone. I did like the size of it and I think it had a nicer, brighter screen with better contrast than the iPad mini (2nd or 3rd gen) I replaced it with? I think I paid under $200 for Nexus 7(?). Anyway, can’t really remember all the details - it was long ago.
That's funny because I'm really tempted to buy the Galaxy Tab S8+. For one reason only: a 12.4 inch, 266 ppi OLED display. I haven't seen it in person, but I'm betting it crushes my 11 inch iPad Pros "Liquid Retina" display. If it's even decent in other areas, it might be a better device than the iPad.
What bug ? and you can have your kb any size and position you like, not that I play games but the control functionality is also already there.
I’m a long time iPad user thinking of trying an Android tablet.
Reading this thread, I notice a common criticism of Android tablets is a lack of tablet-optimised apps (many apps just scaled up phone apps). Is this largely limited to niche apps, or does it also plague mainstream apps?
Ive listed the apps I mainly use on my iPad (excluding web browser). Most are pretty mainstream apps from major developers. Does anyone spot any in this list that are just scaled up phone apps when running on Android tablets?
Gmail
Google Photos
Dropbox
Outlook
OneDrive
Word
Excel
PowerPoint
Microsoft To Do
Adobe Acrobat Reader
1Password
Amazon Kindle
PressReader
Netflix
YouTube
Amazon Prime Video
Spotify
Sonos
Pocket Casts
Amazon
eBay
UK-specific apps
The Times
The Guardian
Now TV
BBC iPlayer
ITV Hub
All 4
My5 (actually, don’t care about this one, but am curious)
BT Sport
Reading this thread, I notice a common criticism of Android tablets is a lack of tablet-optimised apps (many apps just scaled up phone apps). Is this largely limited to niche apps, or does it also plague mainstream apps?
Ive listed the apps I mainly use on my iPad (excluding web browser). Most are pretty mainstream apps from major developers. Does anyone spot any in this list that are just scaled up phone apps when running on Android tablets?
Gmail
Google Photos
Dropbox
Outlook
OneDrive
Word
Excel
PowerPoint
Microsoft To Do
Adobe Acrobat Reader
1Password
Amazon Kindle
PressReader
Netflix
YouTube
Amazon Prime Video
Spotify
Sonos
Pocket Casts
Amazon
eBay
UK-specific apps
The Times
The Guardian
Now TV
BBC iPlayer
ITV Hub
All 4
My5 (actually, don’t care about this one, but am curious)
BT Sport
As someone who now uses a Galaxy Tab full time as a laptop replacement, I can share a few things on those apps that I use.
GMail: Interface is tablet optimized, with 2 column (inbox on the left, email content on the right). However, it's only skin deep. If I want to compose a new message or reply, the screen will be covered with the compose window, and I cannot just take a peek at my inbox without having to save the new email to draft first and go back to it later. No multiple instances support.
Outlook: Same as GMail, interface is tablet optimized. Replying to email is in-line so you can still see your inbox. But composing new email is like GMail, it takes the whole screen covering up the inbox.
Word/Excel: Functions pretty well. I recommend using a mouse, which is supported in Android tablets. But same problem, no multiple instances. Meaning you cannot have two Microsoft Word open side-by-side. If you need to have a second word document open side-by-side, you need to use a different app.
Google Doc/Sheet: Google productivity suits behaves better than Microsoft's, and can support multiple instances. Eg. I can open two Google Sheet spreadsheets side-by-side.
Youtube: tablet optimized. PiP is supported (I have Youtube premium), but cannot resize the PiP frame (Android 11)
Netflix: tablet optimized. Supports PiP, and the PiP frame can be resized.
Disney+ Hotstar: not tablet optimized. Doesn't even support landscape mode unless you are playing a video full screen. Really annoying.
Brave browser: tablet optimized. Also supports multiple instances side by side.
Whatsapp: not optimized. It's just a stretched phone app. Then again, no whatsapp on iPad.
App's optimization are a mix bag. Google and Microsoft apps are highly likely to be optimized, considering their interest. Others might not. Firefox browser is not even tablet optimized (I have to switch browser from Firefox to Brave). Most utilities probably are not tablet optimized, meaning you just see a stretched out phone app.
Overall, imo once you set your expectation, it's alright. But don't expect major differences in terms of workflow compared to an iPad. Imo both are post PC devices, and you have to adjust your workflow.
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Disney+ Hotstar doesn't support landscape for its menu interface. It only supports landscape when I'm viewing the video fullscreen. Note that Disney+ (no Hotstar) is a different app, and it's not available in my country.
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Thanks. My tablet is very much a 3rd device (after laptop and phone). It serves mainly as a consumption device with only occasional productivity use. So sub-optimal workflow in productivity scenarios not a big problem.
Aside from tablet optimisation of apps, a couple of things I’m curious about are browser performance and use as a digitiser for a PC.
Browser performance - this is my biggest annoyance with iPad. Safari frequently fails to load web pages effectively or gets into a reload loop. Other browsers are no better - I guess because they all have to use webkit. I do use the budget iPad so I guess this could be “fixed” by getting a higher end iPad, but I don’t think that should be necessary just for stable web browsing. Is Browser performance/stability better on midrange Android tablets than on the cheap iPad? The most I’m willing to pay for a tablet is about £400/$450 but I’m happy to buy used.
Use as digitiser for a PC - one of the occasional productivity use cases I have for my iPad is to use it as a graphics tablet for my PC (more for use with whiteboard apps and annotating presentations and documents than for drawing). I use an app called Easy Canvas to enable this. There seems to be an Android version of Easy Canvas, but I’m wondering if Samsung Dex also provides this functionality?
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What iPad do you have? Anything with an A10 or newer shouldn't have major performance issues. I would troubleshoot things first by resetting the network, or even resetting to factory and start over.
Browsing is fine on my Galaxy Tab S7 FE. I bought mine for $650 or so (6/128 cellular), and that already includes the keyboard cover and stylus. I don't think the Galaxy Tab A supports Dex, so you might have to narrow your choice to the Tab S series if Dex is a feature you want.
In terms of stylus experience, I don't use it much on mine. However, many people I've talked to said that Apple Pencil experience is better.
6th gen, so has A10. Have reset network a few times. Cant remember if I‘ve ever done a factory reset but I could try that.
I’m not an artist. I only use Apple Pencil for writing and basic sketches/schematics. I suspect Samsung stylus would be fine for my needs. I have tried a Galaxy Note tablet around 5 years ago and remember liking the stylus. I believe the underlying tech is still the same (wacom).
All the Galaxy Folds develop a bad looking 'crease' in the folding portion of the screen making it look like crap a few weeks, months later. It's hard to justify the price of these things with that still a problem, unless they finally fixed it.
Also, I'm not talking about the on-screen keyboard popping up while the out-folded portion is in use, as that's just like any tablet. I'm talking about using only half the screen for content and the other half for a dedicated on-screen keyboard/game controls making it like a modern slider/gaming device.
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What bug ? and you can have your kb any size and position you like, not that I play games but the control functionality is also already there.
Nope no idea what your talking about and I have had all 3 Folds think you need to start buying and owning new tech than just relying on hearsay
Do you mean this for half and half game and controller of old
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If the Fold no longer suffers from the screen crease (it's not heresay it's well known) and can display a UI that mimics the Nintendo DS then sure its worth it. Otherwise what is the point of having two screens?
The folding phone concept ain't new, however. The Kyocera Echo did what the Fold is doing in 2012. Phone makers have truly run out of ideas if all they got is rehashing decade old concepts.
As for the remark about buying new tech, I refuse to spend over $1,000 on something with a fatal flaw.
The folding phone concept ain't new, however. The Kyocera Echo did what the Fold is doing in 2012. Phone makers have truly run out of ideas if all they got is rehashing decade old concepts.
As for the remark about buying new tech, I refuse to spend over $1,000 on something with a fatal flaw.
The A10 should not have issues in browsing the internet. I have the iPhone 7+, and performance is not really an issue even on iOS15.
If you're not an artist, then the S-Pen on the Galaxy Tab will work just fine. Again, I would avoid the Tab A series. Get the Tab S series, or at least the S6 lite or S7 FE if you're on a budget. There are tradeoffs for the cheaper tablets, of course. The S6 lite/S7 FE doesn't have any biometrics. Yup, good ol pattern unlock/PIN to unlock.
What you just described is nothing like the fold we have now. That's more like the duo certainly not the fold. Obviously it's not close to the tech that's in the fold now
The crease is still around bit it's a non issue certainly for content
It's funny how millions disagree with you and can be so wrong .............. not, LOL
The Fold main screen is one screen and as per your request I showed you it can do 2 screen functionality
We know where you lie and its well documented so knock your socks off getting the most out of your purchases
Many of us have moved on from changing our front drum brakes on a Saturday afternoon and place a different value on our time and tech
Appreciate others choices as they are precisely the buyers who latterly allow you to indulge in your retro dabbling's etc
You are literally biting the hand that feeds your passion
I see no need to throw Nick under the bus.
I enjoy reading his posts. Sometimes I agree. Sometimes not.
Feeding Apple and others by updating your devices constantly only makes them richer and empties your wallet or maxes out your credit. For what?
An old friend of mine bought the best iMac he could at the time and didn't replace it until the OS could not be updated.
People on other threads here give me the Angry icon. Oh well, some cannot deal with anti-Apple comments.
I buy cheap because I am cheap. Either way, I attempt to keep something for it's lifetime. My Sansa MP3 player is 15 years old and no longer holds a charge. You think I got my 50 bucks worth?
I enjoy reading his posts. Sometimes I agree. Sometimes not.
Feeding Apple and others by updating your devices constantly only makes them richer and empties your wallet or maxes out your credit. For what?
An old friend of mine bought the best iMac he could at the time and didn't replace it until the OS could not be updated.
People on other threads here give me the Angry icon. Oh well, some cannot deal with anti-Apple comments.
I buy cheap because I am cheap. Either way, I attempt to keep something for it's lifetime. My Sansa MP3 player is 15 years old and no longer holds a charge. You think I got my 50 bucks worth?
I like how people make the assumption that because people like nice things or have an electronics hobby that their credit is shot and they are broke. Lol. Being resourceful is fine but don't place such generalizations on those that enjoy new and nice things.
I dont understand the remark about others buying new things over and over (consumerism which is destroying the planet) invariably allowing me to have retro tech. I bought my Note II, Tab 2 and so on via Amazon used. I saved them from becoming e waste. In ways they have far more features than a modern device. I also buy my stuff outright for life.
How does my retro life invalidate participation in this forum? I enjoy all the same apps, services and streaming platforms, only with devices that fit me more, and don't change every few weeks. I don't tell you what to use but for some reason me using a decade old tablet and smartphone suddenly is cause for insults. I don't understand why my choice of tech threatens you
FYI. I sent this from my Tab 2 10.1 from 2012. Not even close to useless.
How does my retro life invalidate participation in this forum? I enjoy all the same apps, services and streaming platforms, only with devices that fit me more, and don't change every few weeks. I don't tell you what to use but for some reason me using a decade old tablet and smartphone suddenly is cause for insults. I don't understand why my choice of tech threatens you
FYI. I sent this from my Tab 2 10.1 from 2012. Not even close to useless.
The facial recognition is not considered secure biometric as it’s only comparing a photo of your face. It only works for device unlocking, which can be fooled by a photo of you. Anything else that actually require secure authentication wont support it.