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Sensamic

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I wish Samsung would release a tablet with the iPad form factor and 120Hz. A base model. That would be ideal for me. Something around the iPad 10 price, but with Android, 120Hz and same form factor.
 

Sensamic

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Tab S9 11" or Tab S8 the latter no IP68 rating
S9 weights almost 500 grams. Too heavy to use comfortably. It doesn't have the iPad 4:3 form factor.

I tried it at the store and it's the best alternative to iPad, but was too heavy for me.
 

hippopotamusglorypig

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I wish Samsung would release a tablet with the iPad form factor and 120Hz. A base model. That would be ideal for me. Something around the iPad 10 price, but with Android, 120Hz and same form factor.
Tab A9+? It's 90Hz and doesn't support the S-Pen but it seems very sensibly spec-ed.
 

LaterWolf

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S9 weights almost 500 grams. Too heavy to use comfortably. It doesn't have the iPad 4:3 form factor.

I tried it at the store and it's the best alternative to iPad, but was too heavy for me.
Unfortunately Samsung doesn't make iPad 10 price 120hz, the cheapest is the S9 fe which comes with 90hz and is $500
 

Sensamic

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Unfortunately Samsung doesn't make iPad 10 price 120hz, the cheapest is the S9 fe which comes with 90hz and is $500
I would buy the S9 FE (great price right now at 360€ with free book cover included), but it's even heavier than S9 at 523 grams or so. These tablets are just too heavy for their size. They should be around 440 grams, just like the new Pro M4.
 

jimimac71

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The Samsung Galaxy Tab A9+ is priced the way I like.
Is it too cheap? Interested in the 8/128 version.
My Galaxy Tab A is really slowing down.
It's from 2019 and stuck with Android 11.
3/64. RAM isn't enough.
Storage is fine for Android 11 but probably not 13 or 14.
 

DeepSix

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S9 ultra is back on sale right now for $1200CAD. I just ordered one for pick up today. I got the last one in my city at Best Buy. That is a really great deal even though S10 Ultra may be out in 2 months. Expecting S10 Ultra to be more money and not expecting a big jump from it.

I am looking forward to comparing it to my M1 ipad Pro and seeing if I like it more and would sell my ipad in favour of it. Been wanting to try out a S9 Ultra for quite some time now, just wanted to wait for a sale.

As long as I like the Samsung S-pen as much as the apple pencil I will switch. I love the quick share and DEX feature on the S9 Ultra. Would go well with my S23 Ultra.
 
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Annv

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I really enjoy Amazon Fire HD 10 Plus 2021. At about USD 110, it's a great value: nice screen not straining the eyes, fast, can run games at low/medium graphics, even COD (iPad 6th gen already stutters on it), a headphone jack, good quality speakers and more.

With the Fire Toolbox, it becomes a proper Android tablet, and way better quality than any Chinese brand I've tried so far (Lenovo, Xiaomi, and even Samsung), especially in terms of screen quality/natural colors.

I don't think I'll ever return to iPadOS with its pricing and closed system (but keeping my current iPad while it lasts).
 
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jimimac71

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I really enjoy Amazon Fire HD 10 Plus 2021. At about USD 110, it's a great value: nice screen not straining the eyes, fast, can run games at low/medium graphics, even COD (iPad 6th gen already stutters on it), a headphone jack, good quality speakers and more.

With the Fire Toolbox, it becomes a proper Android tablet, and way better quality than any Chinese brand I've tried so far (Lenovo, Xiaomi, and even Samsung), especially in terms of screen quality/natural colors.

I don't think I'll ever return to iPadOS with its pricing and closed system (but keeping my current iPad while it lasts).
That's a really positive review for an Amazon tablet.
I will need to research Fire Toolbox.
I know how to side-load The Google Play Store.
In my experience, Fire OS stays the same but does get updates.
Amazon says 4 years after the product is no longer for sale on Amazon.
I would probably spring for the Max 11.
I actually like the look of the OS.
I've read where Amazon is creating their own OS versus an Android modification.
Thanks for the review.
 
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DeepSix

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I don't think I'll ever return to iPadOS with its pricing and closed system (but keeping my current iPad while it lasts).

After getting the S9 Ultra yesterday I don't think I'll be returning to iOS either. Good chance I sell my iPads. The multitasking and overall UI of android is just so much better. Night and day better.

And the screen on my S9 Ultra blows away my iPads screens. Everyone was right, it's that good. Wish I had gotten this tablet sooner.
 

Heat_Fan89

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That's a really positive review for an Amazon tablet.
I will need to research Fire Toolbox.
I know how to side-load The Google Play Store.
In my experience, Fire OS stays the same but does get updates.
Amazon says 4 years after the product is no longer for sale on Amazon.
I would probably spring for the Max 11.
I actually like the look of the OS.
I've read where Amazon is creating their own OS versus an Android modification.
Thanks for the review.
Get the Max 11, it's an even better value. I got a great deal from Amazon and traded a Fire 10 for the Max 11. The Fire Max is incredibly snappy, the screen is nice and the aluminum shell makes it look premium.
 

jimimac71

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The funny thing is my 2019 iPad works the best.
My 2019 Galaxy Tab A is painfully slow.
My iPad gets OS 18, so I’m not in a hurry to get something else.
Doing research doesn’t cost me anything.
 

macfacts

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The funny thing is my 2019 iPad works the best.
My 2019 Galaxy Tab A is painfully slow.
My iPad gets OS 18, so I’m not in a hurry to get something else.
Doing research doesn’t cost me anything.
It's slow cause it is a budget device. Complaining about it being slow is like complaining about the colour you picked.
 

jimimac71

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It's slow cause it is a budget device. Complaining about it being slow is like complaining about the colour you picked.
Not true! Purchased new! It has been on Android 11 for over a year. I’m not in the mood yet to do a reinstall, which might help. The iPad is also a budget device. Just over $200 refurbished. Works as well as on day one.
Changed my mind. Reinstall in progress. Done. Still putting everything back together. We shall see.
 
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juice3250

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You get what you pay for. I'm perfectly happy with my Lenovo Tab M11 for what it cost. But it's no iPad.

Agreed. I have the M10+ and it’s slow but it’s perfectly fine for me to watch content on. I paid $120 for it. I had previously had the Tab S8 and it was overkill for what I use a tablet for so I sold it.
 
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Seamaster

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I just picked up a Lenovo Tab M11 to replace an old third gen iPad Air. 128GB storage and 4GB RAM. Does 90% of what I need a tablet for and came with a case and pen (which I'll never use) for just £200. Android's no iOS, but I haven't found it objectionable. You can forgive a lot at that price.

What makes up the 10% that it doesn't do?

iCloud stuff, understandably. And it doesn't play nice with my hearing aid, which Apple has always been brilliant at supporting.

A follow-up of interest, I am sure, to a vanishingly small subset of folks here—in the latest OS update to the Lenovo Tab M11, full iOS-style (ASHA) hearing aid support has been enabled, which is very welcome, and has hugely improved the value proposition of this cheap tablet (for me, at any rate).
 
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jimimac71

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My brother has hearing aids which directly connect to his iPhone.
Only some expensive Android phones work without an adapter.
I don’t know what ASHA means. I don’t have hearing aids yet.
Not sure I see the value of hearing aid support with a device that can’t make phone calls. Bluetooth should work for everything else.
My brother does listen to music on his iPhone though.
 

Seamaster

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Yes, many Android devices still need a bluetooth link adapter—that's why this update is such a boon, it allows for direct streaming to hearing aids (ASHA is the Android equivalent of Apple's support for direct connection to iOS devices).

The value of direct hearing aid support is immense—a tablet doesn't make phone calls, but it plays music, streams video etc.
 
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jimimac71

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Yes, many Android devices still need a bluetooth link adapter—that's why this update is such a boon, it allows for direct streaming to hearing aids (ASHA is the Android equivalent of Apple's support for direct connection to iOS devices).

The value of direct hearing aid support is immense—a tablet doesn't make phone calls, but it plays music, streams video etc.
I suppose this could be good for Android phones in the future.
 

jimimac71

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I looked up the M11 and couldn't find any reference to ASHA.
The specs were not impressive. Not everyone has access to a Best Buy location.
 

jimimac71

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I continue having crazy issues with my Galaxy Tab A7 Lite.
I have 2 games apps that don't show up in the menu.
The are times other than updates when it won't reboot on it's own. While I really, really like Android it makes no sense for me to spend hundreds of dollars for a product I don't need. The Galaxy Tab A9+ has good specs. Would I be asking for trouble once again? I really don't want to spend over $300. For that kind of money, I could get a new iPad (on sale). That isn't really the answer either.
My go to tablet is still the Galaxy Tab A.
It chokes up and freezes on websites like MSN, which is overrun with ads. Then again, the whole Web is that way.
The new OnePlus Pad 2 looks incredible but is also $549.99.
 
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