Wise decision for sure! I personally think the ONLY thing Apple responds to is the flow of money. It certainly isn’t their users.
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Any one notices the cracking/popping sound of new 16 inch MBP?
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It's not that difficult to get your point, but you sound like a broken record after a while. Maybe you should ask yourself if your contribute to the conversation is relevant and useful to anyone but yourself.
Even if few users have concerns about this, then? It's not like a missing feature or an odd behaviour, but an important bug (likely software) affecting ALL the machines, so we are not even talking about some bad batches.
This has been covered by media press and i was aware of these issues before reading any forum.
Then if you think it is worthwhile discussing about the many casual users who actually don't notice any of these issues or simply don't care and why apple should care more about them(so about numbers) and how apple is doing the most natural thing to do in cases like this... go ahead. It should be clear, though, that the vast majority of users here couldn't care less.
Defense mechanisms on parade.
I agree garrel, my point isn't at all difficult, and yet some still don't get it. That's how defense mechanisms work.
How important a bug is depends on how much trouble it causes for how many people, not only on how many machines it affects.
I haven't said anything about what Apple should do, which as I said is a moral question, only about their likely reasons for what they actually do.
I hope they'll fix this completely now that it has their attention.
I agree garrel, my point isn't at all difficult, and yet some still don't get it. That's how defense mechanisms work.
How important a bug is depends on how much trouble it causes for how many people, not only on how many machines it affects.
I haven't said anything about what Apple should do, which as I said is a moral question, only about their likely reasons for what they actually do.
I hope they'll fix this completely now that it has their attention.
Thank you for making the crucial point here that this does indeed affect ALL machines. I have it from an internal source that this is in no way shape or form machine specific or a bug that affects some and not others. It is present on every single 16” MBP. As far as other older models go, I cannot say, but the fact that it affects every 16” is a HUGE ordeal. It’s sad to see that as another user pointed out, some people have just gone silent and accepted the bug and decided to live with it. That’s pathetic Apple!
All machines of a model that appeals almost exclusively to professionals, no less. Considering how ideal the screen size is for audio and video editing, a bug rendering the internal speakers as wholly unreliable is really a shame. Yes, it's extremely annoying when it happens on YouTube and Apple Music effectively every single time you scrub or pause audio. But the real problem here is the professional application. We're not talking about an annoying little bug on the MacBook Air (although I gather they're experiencing it to), we're talking about an in some cases crippling issue on a professional machine. That's why comic store guy's condescending thing about bug prioritisation is so weak here.
And I truly consider your point of view. I don’t agree obviously. But it should be clear by now, so why do you continue going over and over?
They launched the new mbp 16 with the exact same issue of the previous generations(not talking about t2 related issues and other stuff...). We’re talking about speakers popping that is way noticeable by everyone and where’s your data that it doesn’t cause much trouble for many people?
Not talking about the fact that these speakers will eventually blow in the near future(give them 2 years or less...) and then we’ll get to the hardware issue!
Right here, among other places. Read people's general comments about their machines and see how many mention this. Check to see how much attention this has received here or elsewhere since 2018. How many reviews mention it? Lots of data around to show how much of an issue this has or hasn't been for most users since 2018.
... deny any problem exists until the class action lawsuits start?
Since 10.15.4 I have this issue on my Retina MacBook Pro Mid 2014 and also on my Hackintosh. It mostly happens if I do something else while playing audio / video. Annoying....
Marketing at its best (worst?) I know it's ad, but I can't help but think the Grammy nominated producer (Oak Felder) using the speakers and having to smile and nod over the popping.
The issue is definitely there. Either you’re not noticing, your ears aren’t picking up on it or you’re not doing anything to replicate the issue. Read back through this entire thread. I know it’s been laid out in detail many times over. Oh, and set your sample rate to 44.1 to really increase the intensity of the pops and clicks. Maybe it’s not a good idea that you do notice. Because once you hear it you cannot un-hear it!
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If you say so... It's not something unnoticeable. It's there. Just do a quick google search "popping macbook pro"... actually every tech blog mentions it. Not talking about forums, youtube videos etc. Apple even had to acknowledge that promising future updates. Then if a bunch of naive users don't even notice the popping, i'm happy for them. But i can assure you they will notice the eventually blown speakers after a while.
So you made your point. If it doesn't concern you that much... why are you here?
Interesting. Well I’ll reply or update once I hear it. So far these are the best speakers I’ve heard.
No one here needs proof. The issue is there and noticeable on every laptop. If you don't hear it better for you, since once you notice you never go back. The speakers are good(relatively, probably the best for a laptop. Compared to anything you can't find on a laptop they are orrible, obviously) and that is not in question.
I think it would be a MUCH bigger issue if it was as noticeable as you make it out to be. Like all the youtube reviewers asking Apple to recall big. Right?
i guess it was fixed which is probably why I don’t hear it.
Update 12/10/2019
It seems that Catalina 10.15.2 has fixed all the popping sound issues for me, including Youtube playing using Safari/Chrome, video playing using iina/mpv, although others have reported conflicting results on this. Given that the wide spreading issue with 10.15.1, it might be worthwhile upgrading to 10.15.2.
Not fixed at all. I’ve even received confirmation from internal sources at Apple. So I don’t know if you’re experiencing a placebo or what. Anyone here that installs the 10.15.5 beta, we would all love to hear your findings!
Apple acknowledged this issue a couple months ago, so no.
Tech blogs generally didn't mention this until after it blew up last November, long after it had initially been reported here, even though several had reviewed affected machines since 2018. Actually, I'm not sure any tech blogs mentioned it before last November. Probably a fair number of audio pros don't use the built-in speakers for work, or they most likely would have noticed before. It's not only naive users, as you call them. It's people who review computer equipment professionally, professionals of all sorts, and those who use their speakers a lot and have ears but don't scrub or whatever else might cause the issue.
It does concern me. I'll probably buy one of these.
I give up. This has been acknowledged by Apple. No fix until today. I don't know what we are talking about. There are even users that swear their machine is fine(check if it is setted at 48khz which attenuates this a little). This thread should be focused on updates from the community about the issue, new findings, osx beta testing. Instead we are still here debating if it affects only a few or stating these mind blowing!!!(and this is indeed laughable) speakers are perfect to some. Ok.
Just wanted to say that I had the popping issue when I first got my 16" MBP, very noticeable on YouTube especially, and ever since 10.15.3 (or was it 10.15.2?) I have not had a recurrence of the issue. I regularly watch YouTube videos with the on-board speakers now and it hasn't happened once since I updated macOS. So I have changed my vote from "Yes" to "No".