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Does your 16 inch MacBook Pro have pop/cracking sound issue?


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fokmik

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I don't know what to tell you. You might want to have a hearing test done. Myself and my associate have both been told by a very high up executive that there is no machine that DOES NOT exhibit the issue right now. Not sure how much clearer that can be. It has also been verified by engineering. It is not machine specific and yet over and over again a handful of people keep making claims like it is. If you can't hear it, then good on you. I guess there's no reason for you to even be on this thread. Have a beer and go celebrate that you have the only golden MBP that "doesn't" click and pop. ;)
i bet you or me, can reproduce even on his perfect machine this issue under 30 seconds
 

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i bet you or me, can reproduce even on his perfect machine this issue under 30 seconds
I’d bet all the money in the world that I could reproduce the issue on anyone heres machine in 15 seconds. I wouldn’t want to do that and burst someone’s happy little bubble though. As it’s been said a ton here; once you hear it you cannot un-hear it.
 
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I don't know what to tell you. You might want to have a hearing test done. Myself and my associate have both been told by a very high up executive that there is no machine that DOES NOT exhibit the issue right now. Not sure how much clearer that can be. It has also been verified by engineering. It is not machine specific and yet over and over again a handful of people keep making claims like it is. If you can't hear it, then good on you. I guess there's no reason for you to even be on this thread. Have a beer and go celebrate that you have the only golden MBP that "doesn't" click and pop. ;)
You’re one of the only people I know reporting the issue on headphones and speakers. Most people in the thread who have noticed it have reported it is only on internal speakers. I also have a friend who like you does audio engineering professionally and also does not notice anything on external audio. I’ll tell you what, make a recording of the popping happening with external speakers and I’ll believe you. The speakers do “click” but not on external speakers or headphones. I've been in this thread for months and said about a month ago I think it's probably a hardware issue.

EDIT: Since you keep claiming I have a hearing issue I took a video of me starting and stopping the video to try and trigger the click. I don't hear anything and I doubt you can either:
. Maybe you should grab yourself a beer because you have super sonic hearing.
 
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I have been told by multiple executive sources that this issue is not fixed at all. Oh, and you’re wrong again, the popping and clicking can indeed be heard on headphones. I’ve verified it multiple times. It’s NOT internal speakers only.
Never suggested the issue was fixed, quite the opposite. Do you even read what you respond to?

As for headphones and external speakers, I just repeated what others have said here, who didn't hear it in their headphones or external speakers, and some more have said the same since then. Glad you didn't lash out at them too.

Maybe it depends on how the headphones or speakers are hooked up.
 

Viamusic10000

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Never suggested the issue was fixed, quite the opposite. Do you even read what you respond to?

As for headphones and external speakers, I just repeated what others have said here, who didn't hear it in their headphones or external speakers, and some more have said the same since then. Glad you didn't lash out at them too.

Maybe it depends on how the headphones or speakers are hooked up.
I had popping when starting stopping on external on one program so far and they fixed it in an update so I’m guessing it’s software specific.
 
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You’re one of the only people I know reporting the issue on headphones and speakers. Most people in the thread who have noticed it have reported it is only on internal speakers. I also have a friend who like you does audio engineering professionally and also does not notice anything on external audio. I’ll tell you what, make a recording of the popping happening with external speakers and I’ll believe you. The speakers do “click” but not on external speakers or headphones. I've been in this thread for months and said about a month ago I think it's probably a hardware issue.

EDIT: Since you keep claiming I have a hearing issue I took a video of me starting and stopping the video to try and trigger the click. I don't hear anything and I doubt you can either:
. Maybe you should grab yourself a beer because you have super sonic hearing.
LOL. All I hear is you clicking the mouse. Did it ever occur to you that the click being spoken of here sounds remarkably like the clicking of your mouse (in the same frequency range)? I know that the “click” being spoken of here is very very subtle. Not the same as the loud “pop” that was happening. This “click” occurs a split second before an alert sound happens. Like when receiving an email or text alert. There’s a slight “click” milliseconds before the sound engages. I can personally replicate it every time. A person wouldn’t hear it in a room with any noise at all. You can hear it in a dead silent room, or with headphones on in a quiet room.
 
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Viamusic10000

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LOL. All I hear is you clicking the mouse. Did it ever occur to you that the click being spoken of here sounds remarkably like the clicking of your mouse (in the same frequency range)? I know that the “click” being spoken of here is very very subtle. Not the same as the loud “pop” that was happening. This “click” occurs a split second before an alert sound happens. Like when receiving an email or text alert. There’s a slight “click” milliseconds before the sound engages. I can personally replicate it every time. A person wouldn’t hear it in a room with any noise at all. You can hear it in a dead silent room, or with headphones on in a quiet room.
EDIT: I tried replicating it like this and there is a click when rapidly starting and stopping audio. My friend must not notice it since he uses an interface.

anyway I’ve gotten over this issue I think it’s probably hardware and they’ll never fix it.
 
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dspdoc

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I can’t replicate it using headphones and the vast majority of people who report this issue haven’t noticed it either including my friend who does mixing for major studios. Either make a recording of the click on external speakers or stop spreading misinformation. Alternatively get confirmation via Apple engineering and post it here. And if the sound is so distinct and subtle as to be barely noticeable except in ideal conditions, how can you say it’s the same issue as the pop from the internal speakers which is extremely noticeable especially when it’s on 44khz?
Just because you can’t hear it doesn’t make it “misinformation”. It’s a fact. I couldn’t care less about your friend who mixes for “major” studios. You don’t know who you’re talking to, nor do I need to prove anything to you. I have confirmed this not only with engineering, but also with executives. I won’t break confidentiality to prove myself to you. If you don’t hear it then just leave this thread. There’s no point in you being here just to argue something that according to you is a non-issue. That makes no sense unless you have an agenda. If and when a true fix for this is released and Apple acknowledges the fix, you’re gonna look really foolish. And trust me, it’s coming.
 

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Just because you can’t hear it doesn’t make it “misinformation”. It’s a fact. I couldn’t care less about your friend who mixes for “major” studios. You don’t know who you’re talking to, nor do I need to prove anything to you. I have confirmed this not only with engineering, but also with executives. I don’t need to break confidentiality to prove myself to you. If you don’t hear it then just leave this thread. There’s no point in you being here just to argue something that according to you is a non-issue. That makes no sense unless you have an agenda. If and when a true fix for this is released and Apple acknowledges the fix, you’re gonna look really foolish. And trust me, it’s coming.
I edited my above post. That being said, is it not normal for that to pop when rapidly starting and stopping playback in most computers?
 
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Just because you can’t hear it doesn’t make it “misinformation”. It’s a fact. I couldn’t care less about your friend who mixes for “major” studios. You don’t know who you’re talking to, nor do I need to prove anything to you. I have confirmed this not only with engineering, but also with executives. I won’t break confidentiality to prove myself to you. If you don’t hear it then just leave this thread. There’s no point in you being here just to argue something that according to you is a non-issue. That makes no sense unless you have an agenda. If and when a true fix for this is released and Apple acknowledges the fix, you’re gonna look really foolish. And trust me, it’s coming.
you do realize you are not the guardian of this thread nor are you the guardian of whether or not what people hear on their own computer? get over yourself.

saying that "every computer has it, no exceptions" is literally something someone with little knowledge would say. these computers are mass produced and there is always an area of uncertainty in any one specific unit. i'm not saying there ISN'T an inherent problem. my computer actually exhibited this issue and after an update it hasn't much anymore. but telling someone what their hearing is incorrect without some sort of verification is toxic on a forum such as this. if anyone has an agenda its you and your headstrong, pointless posts.
 
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you do realize you are not the guardian of this thread nor are you the guardian of whether or not what people hear on their own computer? get over yourself.

saying that "every computer has it, no exceptions" is literally something someone with little knowledge would say. these computers are mass produced and there is always an area of uncertainty in any one specific unit. i'm not saying there ISN'T an inherent problem. my computer actually exhibited this issue and after an update it hasn't much anymore. but telling someone what their hearing is incorrect without some sort of verification is toxic on a forum such as this. if anyone has an agenda its you and your headstrong, pointless posts.
Every 16” MBP does exhibit this issue, period. Your showing your lack of knowledge in HW/SW interaction by insinuating otherwise. There are no exceptions. For the thousandth time, this has been verified by engineering and a very high up executive. There’s nothing pointless about demanding a total fix for this issue that plagues computers north of $2000. You need to educate yourself and read back through this entire thread because you’ve clearly missed a lot. Talk about a pointless post... Come back when you are actually trying to contribute something to get this fixed versus just being a naysayer. Get over yourself.
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I edited my above post. That being said, is it not normal for that to pop when rapidly starting and stopping playback in most computers?
I’m glad you’ve now discovered it, but not really because in a case like this it really is less stressful to be oblivious to it. Once you notice you can’t look away anymore.
 
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Unrelated, but this problem still persist on my 2018 15inch MBP. Each time I am adjusting volume via touch bar when playback, it’s emits unpleasant cracking pops. Only affects built-in speaker so far, but no issues when using headphones.

I posting here just for venting out, well 15 and 16 inch MBP are quite similar.
 
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Viamusic10000

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Every 16” MBP does exhibit this issue, period. Your showing your lack of knowledge in HW/SW interaction by insinuating otherwise. There are no exceptions. For the thousandth time, this has been verified by engineering and a very high up executive. There’s nothing pointless about demanding a total fix for this issue that plagues computers north of $2000. You need to educate yourself and read back through this entire thread because you’ve clearly missed a lot. Talk about a pointless post... Come back when you are actually trying to contribute something to get this fixed versus just being a naysayer. Get over yourself.
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I’m glad you’ve now discovered it, but not really because in a case like this it really is less stressful to be oblivious to it. Once you notice you can’t look away anymore.
It hasn’t really bothered me so far and I don’t expect it too in the future just like I don’t really mind the ghosting. I didn’t use the forum for months because it stopped bothering me. I only just returned because Apple broke power nap and it’s causing sleep wake issues and kernel panics.
 

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Unrelated, but this problem still persist on my 2018 15inch MBP. Each time I am adjusting volume via touch bar when playback, it’s emits unpleasant cracking pops. Only affects built-in speaker so far, but no issues when using headphones.

I posting here just for venting out, well 15 and 16 inch MBP are quite similar.
The issues are all indeed related with a few variances depending on model and OS, but they are all related and need to be fixed. Especially given the length of time involved.
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It hasn’t really bothered me so far and I don’t expect it too in the future just like I don’t really mind the ghosting. I didn’t use the forum for months because it stopped bothering me. I only just returned because Apple broke power nap and it’s causing sleep wake issues and kernel panics.
I’m sincerely glad you’re able to look past it. As a mastering engineer, audio is my world and this is totally unacceptable on a machine of this caliber that has great potential to be near perfect. I did notice the dreaded KPs have come back. They just can’t seem to get things square with the T2 chip.
 

Viamusic10000

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The issues are all indeed related with a few variances depending on model and OS, but they are all related and need to be fixed. Especially given the length of time involved.
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I’m sincerely glad you’re able to look past it. As a mastering engineer, audio is my world and this is totally unacceptable on a machine of this caliber that has great potential to be near perfect. I did notice the dreaded KPs have come back. They just can’t seem to get things square with the T2 chip.
I don’t think the kernel panic issue is related to the T2 because I have a friend with a 16 in and a pre T2 13in and he’s getting the error on both after the 10.15.4 supplemental update. I also wasn’t getting it prior to the update and turning off power nap fixed it. They must have changed something.
 

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Yes the kernel panic, i also believe is a hit or miss, based on your luck of what mac you get....but, like anaudiopro said...unfortunately this issue, from this thread is for all 2018 to present macbooks...and we are in 2020...already almost 2 years...
 
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dspdoc

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Does anyone here have one of the new MBAs? I’m considering trying one, but someone said they exhibit the issues as well.
 

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I'm not gonna read all 38 pages of this thread, but I thought that my 16in did not have this issue because I had yet to hear it. However when playing Cities Skylines I do occasionally hear what I would describe as a pop or a quick crackle. I have not hear that noise in anything else as of yet. Im going to assume its related.
 

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I'm not gonna read all 38 pages of this thread, but I thought that my 16in did not have this issue because I had yet to hear it. However when playing Cities Skylines I do occasionally hear what I would describe as a pop or a quick crackle. I have not hear that noise in anything else as of yet. Im going to assume its related.
I’m sorry to hear that you are now noticing the issue as well. It sucks once you notice it because you’ll be listening for it all the time.
 

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Apple still trying market Pro Audio with a 16-inch MacBook.

 

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Just wanted to chime in and mention that I too have heard this popping noise during audio playback on the 16" MBP. But for me at least, it's pretty darned infrequent. I can live with it as long as it remains relatively rare. Then again, I'm not an audio pro.
 

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Just wanted to chime in and mention that I too have heard this popping noise during audio playback on the 16" MBP. But for me at least, it's pretty darned infrequent. I can live with it as long as it remains relatively rare. Then again, I'm not an audio pro.
At least you admit to hearing it. I know I certainly appreciate the honesty and transparency! The 16” MBP would be a damn near perfect machine IMHO if Apple would address these audio glitches.
 
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