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WizardHunt

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It looks like the System Integrity Protection is making Total Finder a no go. The developer has no plans to support El Capitan. That is my only regret, having upgraded. I was so used to using TF. Finder without it is terrible.

That Figures. Are there any replacements for Total Finder? I really like that one.
 
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Noble Actual

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As someone who was not a fan of Yosemite, I actually think that El Capitan helped my MacBook Air 2013 a lot so I'm going to give Apple some props for acknowledging Yosemite and fixing it and instead of adding 100 new features and bugs.

Good
- Starting up the Mac is faster

- Starting up the Mac doesn't result in a black menu bar

- New font makes it a little bit easier to read on non-retina screen

- Handoff and Continuity worked (it worked when I upgraded to iOS 9 w/o El Capitan) but upgrading to El Capitan did not break them

- Battery seems a little better (need to see more real life test though)

- Safari seems to be a little snappier, pin tabs are pretty nice

Bad
- iTunes and Apple Music are still garbage and slow, super complicated to use

- Mac App Store and iBook Store still slow

- Notes is still lacking, can't use trackpad to sketch
 

WizardHunt

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Well with so many mixed reviews. I am not sure I want to upgrade to El Capitan as some people are having problems and Because of that I may wait at least until the first update to fix some issues they are having. So far I am happy with Yosemite so for me at this point I see no reason to upgrade yet. Maybe later on when it more stable.
 
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algengler

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Huge regrets. I had to eventually wipe my Macbook pro three times and restore to make it work. I'm not going to upgrade my iMac until I get a feeling the installation issues have settled down. I'm not the only one. Apple' s forums are full of Macbook pros turned to "bricks," as they call it, and some having to back up to Yosemite.
 

WizardHunt

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I have issues with dual screens I hadn't before. Dialog windows frequently are BEHIND their parent windows. Some can be closed with Esc, often a force quit is needed.

interesting , I have 3 screens counting my 5K Retina iMac, so I am wondering if this would be a problem for me?
 

ame8199

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Apr 30, 2011
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Yep, bricked my computer! It won't even let me use time machine to go back... Last hope is install a brand new Maverick from my instal disk. My nearest Apple Store is 2 hrs away
 
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DJEmergency

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Nov 4, 2011
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Yes. I installed it and found out that my Native Instruments plugins within Logic, some plug ins within Adobe Audition and also Sibelius didn't work properly. Immediately did a restore from back up to go back to Yosemite.

Not good when you have 2 theme park attractions opening in 3 week that you've scored...

Same problem here. Most my AU plugins are broken...
 

OldNewby

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Nov 10, 2013
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Wondering if any of you who took the plunge and upgraded already. Do you have any regrets or is there any major app that will not run? I am just curious. I have held off from installing to see how many of you have problems.
Are you kidding? Already switched back to Yosemite, mostly because my 2014 15"MacBook Pro (11,3) was running unusually hot ((140-165F), as it usually runs between 120-135F. Having IStat Menu, I see the thermal outlook for my machine pretty close: only the OS had changed.
Also, Final Cut Pro (7) was NO GO: Soundtrack Pro and Compresser opened, but FCP7 from the same suite would not even start. Adobe CS6 seemed OK, but I didn't try some of the "legacy" software like Encore: we'll see. Waiting for the first update to try again, if not restore from Time Machine backup. No love yet from Apple updates...
 

AlexH

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No regrets here. Everything feels snappier and cleaner. Love the improvements across the board. It feels like a very mature operating system.
 

tom vilsack

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While I was hoping this was going to be "Yosemite"-"Snow leopard" it's not! I even did a clean install via usb stick. To many things still need work. Time Machine simply doesn't work right,doesn't play nice with MS Office (microsoft has said office 2011 users should stay with 10.10),Disk Utilities new interface is a major step backwards!,Side by side Yosemite default font is cleaner and easier on the eyes,Restart is slower,Just not as fast on older hardware (2010 11" air) I get the new beachball way more often,My fans ramp up slightly more often....need I go on and on.

While all the above might not be deal breakers,for me they were enough to go back to Yosemite.
 
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joeszef1

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So many mixed reviews but I did not regret on upgrading my Mac to El Capitan. It seems to be a lot faster than Yosemite especially on multitasking screen and split screen. I'm using RMBP Early 2015.
 

imejh

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No regrets here. Everything feels snappier and cleaner. Love the improvements across the board. It feels like a very mature operating system.

I would concur with your sentiment on El Cap. And, additionally the ol' saying of -stable and just works- comes to mind. Clean install of 10.11 on my '12 rMBP.
 

WizardHunt

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Curious, why it does not work with some and some have no problems at all. Must be what each user has installed as far as software that is not compatible with 10.11. Some saying stable and no problems while others are saying it broke the Mac Mail, or Total Finder is toast with this new upgrade. And how it messed up some others computers. Interesting to say the least and frustrating for all effected. I am still on the line whether to not to cross it to install it or let the first update come out first. The later seems fitting at this point. But I am still thinking.
 

noi747

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Aug 8, 2011
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Overall is fine but the new font is difficult to read. though it seems a bit wider but it's less bold than 10.10's. hoping the users will report this problem to Apple and get the new update for this issue.
 

AlexH

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I would concur with your sentiment on El Cap. And, additionally the ol' saying of -stable and just works- comes to mind. Clean install of 10.11 on my '12 rMBP.
I too performed a clean install. I do trust Apple's upgrade option, but I still prefer starting with a clean slate.
 

djjaes

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Jan 24, 2015
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Major issues for me: locking up, weird black blocks on the second monitor, Safari froze, desktop pictures change on their own, on occasion I get a brief black screen then it switches to a login screen and asks for password.

I am returning to 10.10, and don't look forward to calling MS for office, as the last disk drive upgrade I had to call to get lie to work.

I now don't plan on putting 10.11 on any of my macs, 2010 white MacBook and 2015 rMB
 

imejh

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Mar 4, 2013
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Curious, why it does not work with some and some have no problems at all.

Well, for the most part you answered your own question.

Must be what each user has installed as far as software...

I know this is not applicable to all occurring problems. Hardware can have issues also. Bloated, buggy backups being brought forward to new OS versions can jam up the works. But, IMO the vast majority of the the time someone is experiencing a buggered up computer (generalizing) it's because of the above, and/or the lack of doing the -old school way- of setting up and clean installing new OS/apps/programs on computerized devices.
 

tom vilsack

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Well, for the most part you answered your own question.



I know this is not applicable to all occurring problems. Hardware can have issues also. Bloated, buggy backups being brought forward to new OS versions can jam up the works. But, IMO the vast majority of the the time someone is experiencing a buggered up computer (generalizing) it's because of the above, and/or the lack of doing the -old school way- of setting up and clean installing new OS/apps/programs on computerized devices.

All of my issues were with a clean usb install and not adding any extra software.

"Time Machine simply doesn't work right,doesn't play nice with MS Office (microsoft has said office 2011 users should stay with 10.10),Disk Utilities new interface is a major step backwards!,Side by side Yosemite default font is cleaner and easier on the eyes,Restart is slower,Just not as fast on older hardware (2010 11" air) I get the new beachball way more often,My fans ramp up slightly more often"

Go ahead and run time machine and tell us it's not buggy! Go ahead and install MS office and tell us it's not buggy!
 

fruitpunch.ben

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Curious, why it does not work with some and some have no problems at all. Must be what each user has installed as far as software that is not compatible with 10.11.

You're always going to get a very vocal minority of people commenting who have had problems. I wouldn't worry too much. A lot of people have said this is very stable for a .0 release. Some people are always going to have problems with compatibility and stuff like that. The vast majority of people who have installed it with no problems are not here commenting!
That said I have experienced a couple kernel panics since installing El Cap. But I had been getting them intermittently on Yosemite as well, just not in the last few months. I think hardware (logic board?) might be failing, but it's not worth getting it looked at on my 2009 iMac. So I will just live with it.
The one real problem I had is a minor bug where the error message "USB Devices disabled: Unplug devices using too much power" error message displays permanently. Even with rebooting, no USB devices connected, SMC reset, etc. The only way to get rid of it is turn do not disturb on notifications, which is not ideal because I use them. But it's only a minor bug, hopefully fixed soon! See https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7254822?start=0&tstart=0
 

fiveainone

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Sep 16, 2011
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None whatsoever. Best update since Mountain Lion. I actually found uses for Split Screen, Safari Pins and true full screen, and actually using multiple desktops. So in love.
 
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