All iPads Anyone bored to tears with iPads after WWDC 2024?

[gpat]

They just had to (re)introduce hypervisor support and let VMWare and Parallels do their stuff and it would've been the best release ever.

 

[stumpapi]

So i watched WWDC and the Apple Intellegence bit and all that, having just recently bought the 11 inch iPad Pro 256 Gig with OLED, and since its still within its return window...its going back.

Heres the thing...WWDC killed any lingering enthusiam i had for iPads in general. I've been using iPads since the first generation and i got to tell you, the magic for me is long dead.

Oh don't get me wrong, they are marvels of technology, considering growing up as a kid, I was a huge Star Trek The Next Generation fan and the idea of a touch screen computer device for real i never actually thought I'd live to see the day it became real, but low and behold, the early Iphones and the first Gen Ipad proved me wrong and even though those products have evolved so much since then, they feel so...Borning.

No matter what tier of iPad you buy, you still cant get as much work done on them as a laptop or desktop...and they really feel to me after all these years like half of what could be a fantastic computer but apple's own stubborness wont let it be what it truly can be.

Like if apple just blended the Ipads and Touch Screen Technology with their mac line, you would have perfect devices. Imagine an Ipad Pro that worked like a laptop when you needed it, then you took it off the keyboard stand and it was a tablet, or a desktop simular to the Imac 4G sunflower with a adjustable rotatable OLED Touch Screen yet still came with a standard keyboard and mouse when you wanted to use it as a desktop machine then it folded down to be used as a drawing/touch interface machine for various projects.

Problem is...APPLE WONT DO THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR STUBBORNESS with the Ipads...they NEED to sell ipads alongside Laptops, desktops and the Phones....

Imagine a iPhone pro that opens into a ipad mini for on the go use...Samsung and other companies have devices like that, its a phone when you need it that opens to a portable tablet! Yes they are expensive and not without their issues, but its possable.

I doubt apple will ever do that because they don't want to canabalize the sales of their Ipad minis....

Why have a Macbook/Ipad Pro device when you can sell two seperate devices.

Honestly, its apple's stubbornness in not putting in touch screen into their computers that just ruins the whole experence for me because now you have a tablet that apple will only let go so far, and Laptops that could be much more but they wont because they need two product lines so they sell more volume.

Ipads are borning now...so are the phones cause their is only so much you can do with them in their current form. I wasn't expecting much from WWDC but they really nurffed the Ipad Pro....

It has a M4 chip in it, no other computer they make has that...and yet, outside of the OLED Screen it does the exact same stuff the older pros did for the past 6 years.

I've tried so hard to tell myself i still love Apple products, but after this WWDC i just cant do it. They are still playing catchup with Android at this point!

I cant be the only one that feels this way. Its so fustrating cause these devices could do so much more, be so much more, yet apple doesnt let them!

Yes, you are right on but it’s of little consequence here. Apple could release a blank sheet of paper and many in these forums would rave about it as the next big thing better than ever done before. I respect you being willing to honestly share your thoughts.

 

[Webcat86]

Yes, you are right on but it’s of little consequence here. Apple could release a blank sheet of paper and many in these forums would rave about it as the next big thing better than ever done before. I respect you being willing to honestly share your thoughts.

and on the flip side, Apple could completely overhaul iPadOS to make it the most capable OS ever released with no limitations, and some people would still complain that it isn't MacOS.

 

[3Rock]

For me, after buying the iPad M2 version, I will not buy another one until this one breaks or there’s a more compelling reason to purchase one. The iPad is not boring, but it’s not worth spending all that money for what the earlier models can do just as well at least for my needs. I even stopped buying the newest iPhone each year or two. Just to have the latest it’s just a waste of of money. 😜

 

[iPadified]

Not more bored than looking at MacOS or iOS improvement the last 10 years. WWDC was about AI which may or may not be transformative of how we use a computer/iPad/iPhone. Baby AI steps but there is potential. Who knows, Finders days are counted and replaced by Siri!

 

[TechRunner]

For me it's always been about mindset. When I reach for my iPad I'm in the consumption/casual computing headspace with accompanying expectations. When I sit at my Mac Mini system or grab my Windows laptop, I'm in the "serious work" headspace.

Granted, if I spent 2K on an M4 iPad setup, I might be more inclined to wish it would do more. But given what I stated above, the 13" M2 Air would be the limits of my spending for a tablet device given the niche I've slotted it into.

 

[Berti10]

…thread closed.

 

[Webcat86]

…thread closed.

Exactly.

People put a lot of weight behind "Apple won't improve iPads because it would cannibalise Mac sales" but those iPad sales are telling Apple that people are very happy with the product.

 

[sparksd]

No.

No. Ir’s the same iPad as the day before WWDC and I wasn’t bored with it then.

 

[fatTribble]

I take no pleasure in disagreeing with a fellow Star Trek fan, but I’m still thrilled with my M1 iPad Pro. It does what I need it to do. It still feels like the future every time I pick it up. I use it a lot more than my MacBook.

 

[kimjongbill]

So i watched WWDC and the Apple Intellegence bit and all that, having just recently bought the 11 inch iPad Pro 256 Gig with OLED, and since its still within its return window...its going back.

Heres the thing...WWDC killed any lingering enthusiam i had for iPads in general. I've been using iPads since the first generation and i got to tell you, the magic for me is long dead.

Oh don't get me wrong, they are marvels of technology, considering growing up as a kid, I was a huge Star Trek The Next Generation fan and the idea of a touch screen computer device for real i never actually thought I'd live to see the day it became real, but low and behold, the early Iphones and the first Gen Ipad proved me wrong and even though those products have evolved so much since then, they feel so...Borning.

No matter what tier of iPad you buy, you still cant get as much work done on them as a laptop or desktop...and they really feel to me after all these years like half of what could be a fantastic computer but apple's own stubborness wont let it be what it truly can be.

Like if apple just blended the Ipads and Touch Screen Technology with their mac line, you would have perfect devices. Imagine an Ipad Pro that worked like a laptop when you needed it, then you took it off the keyboard stand and it was a tablet, or a desktop simular to the Imac 4G sunflower with a adjustable rotatable OLED Touch Screen yet still came with a standard keyboard and mouse when you wanted to use it as a desktop machine then it folded down to be used as a drawing/touch interface machine for various projects.

Problem is...APPLE WONT DO THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR STUBBORNESS with the Ipads...they NEED to sell ipads alongside Laptops, desktops and the Phones....

Imagine a iPhone pro that opens into a ipad mini for on the go use...Samsung and other companies have devices like that, its a phone when you need it that opens to a portable tablet! Yes they are expensive and not without their issues, but its possable.

I doubt apple will ever do that because they don't want to canabalize the sales of their Ipad minis....

Why have a Macbook/Ipad Pro device when you can sell two seperate devices.

Honestly, its apple's stubbornness in not putting in touch screen into their computers that just ruins the whole experence for me because now you have a tablet that apple will only let go so far, and Laptops that could be much more but they wont because they need two product lines so they sell more volume.

Ipads are borning now...so are the phones cause their is only so much you can do with them in their current form. I wasn't expecting much from WWDC but they really nurffed the Ipad Pro....

It has a M4 chip in it, no other computer they make has that...and yet, outside of the OLED Screen it does the exact same stuff the older pros did for the past 6 years.

I've tried so hard to tell myself i still love Apple products, but after this WWDC i just cant do it. They are still playing catchup with Android at this point!

I cant be the only one that feels this way. It’s so fustrating cause these devices could do so much more, be so much more, yet apple doesnt let them!

As a proud iPad mini owner, I’m not disappointed about iPad OS (and I’m curious if others in the mini contingency feel similarly), but I think it would be particularly annoying for Pro owners. Aside from one app that is severely gimped (Anki flashcards) compared to the desktop app, even on my Pro I’m relatively content with iPadOS, but I think it’s still unnecessarily complicated, but when your workflow works within the limits of the iPad, it’s all works pretty well. It just sucks that when you approach the limits of iPadOS (like opening the files app 🙃), it falls apart fast.

Considering iPadOS hasn’t changed…basically ever, I wonder at what point we stop blaming Apple for the lack of pro apps and blame app developers for not developing them for the iPad. It doesn’t even seem like a chicken or the egg situation at this point, it’s clear that iPad Pro users exist and want those apps now.

 

[Piplodocus]

No more bored than before or after the original Apple pencil was announced and they became great for art and note taking. Otherwise still just a large iPod touch as they've always been to me. I thought the pencil maths stuff was actually one of the most exciting things it's done in a while. But I'm mostly just a phone on the go and a proper computer when I need some music production or half-decent game.

So do they bore me? They never excited my that much in the first place. Bought one years after they came out in 2020(?). Don't intend to buy another as long as this one lasts since apart from things involving the pencil, a small macbook would beat it for everything else (vague plans for any decent on the go music production turned out to be a bit of a joke with an iPad).

So if anything, WWDC made them mildly more exciting than before, cuz maths. But I don't see much of a reason anyone's excitement levels should have ever really gone up or down much from whatever their personal ipad excitement baseline is over the years, unless maybe you're an artist.

 

[jonnyb098]

Agree with all that but personally I bought the Pro because sometimes it's nice to have the best version of something. The iPP having the OLED screen, thunderbolt and being the most future-proofed with the M4 chip made it more appealing to me.

The way I see it, the iPad isn't a device that needs changing every year or 2 so it makes sense to buy the best one a person's budget allows — especially with AI. We've already seen the very latest iPhones not all being compatible with Apple Intelligence, for example.

So when I bought my iPad, I went into it with the mindset of "which one of these am I most likely to still be using in 5 years from now?" At this moment in the development of tech, that question isn't about how long the device will physically work, but how long before it can't keep up with the updates.

And that’s exactly why the iPad Pro exists. The problem this year IMO is that Apple upped the price 20% just because they can while the iPad Air is getting even closer to the pro. It’s genius by Apple as usual. But it’s really pushing the envelope on pricing especially in this terrible economic climate.

I still love the iPad Pro and it’s my main home device Used for everything including creativity.

 

[ericwn]

and on the flip side, Apple could completely overhaul iPadOS to make it the most capable OS ever released with no limitations, and some people would still complain that it isn't MacOS.

More than 15 years after its launch I have my doubts that Apple could actually do that. Not in theory but in real life. And of course you cannot always please everyone as a mainstream company. But yes, let them deliver the most capable OS ever and we shall see.

 

[jonnyb098]

The fact Apple basically slapped iPad owners in the face with their little calculator app jokes is pretty telling. Would love for one of the overpaid YouTubers that know very little about tech to ask if it was really such a technical challenge to build a calculator that they couldn’t improve the files app and other simple barriers that people hit regularly that would’ve made iPadOS near perfection. And no I’m not referring to the idiotic idea of macOS on iPad. Just iPados not having a crummy files app for example.

 

[Webcat86]

And that’s exactly why the iPad Pro exists. The problem this year IMO is that Apple upped the price 20% just because they can while the iPad Air is getting even closer to the pro. It’s genius by Apple as usual. But it’s really pushing the envelope on pricing especially in this terribly economic climate.

I bought the M2 Pro (11", 128gb storage) 2 weeks before the M4 launched. It was £899, barely more than the Air albeit with less storage.
The M4 that I bought was £999 — so £100 more expensive but it has double the storage, plus the M4, OLED etc. I really didn't feel that the price was a big jump. I haven't compared with the higher storage options so maybe that's where the issues are, but for 99% of people I cannot see the justification in spending the money of a max-spec iPad Pro when external storage and cloud storage is so cheap.

 

[skit911]

So i watched WWDC and the Apple Intellegence bit and all that, having just recently bought the 11 inch iPad Pro 256 Gig with OLED, and since its still within its return window...its going back.

Heres the thing...WWDC killed any lingering enthusiam i had for iPads in general. I've been using iPads since the first generation and i got to tell you, the magic for me is long dead.

Oh don't get me wrong, they are marvels of technology, considering growing up as a kid, I was a huge Star Trek The Next Generation fan and the idea of a touch screen computer device for real i never actually thought I'd live to see the day it became real, but low and behold, the early Iphones and the first Gen Ipad proved me wrong and even though those products have evolved so much since then, they feel so...Borning.

No matter what tier of iPad you buy, you still cant get as much work done on them as a laptop or desktop...and they really feel to me after all these years like half of what could be a fantastic computer but apple's own stubborness wont let it be what it truly can be.

Like if apple just blended the Ipads and Touch Screen Technology with their mac line, you would have perfect devices. Imagine an Ipad Pro that worked like a laptop when you needed it, then you took it off the keyboard stand and it was a tablet, or a desktop simular to the Imac 4G sunflower with a adjustable rotatable OLED Touch Screen yet still came with a standard keyboard and mouse when you wanted to use it as a desktop machine then it folded down to be used as a drawing/touch interface machine for various projects.

Problem is...APPLE WONT DO THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR STUBBORNESS with the Ipads...they NEED to sell ipads alongside Laptops, desktops and the Phones....

Imagine a iPhone pro that opens into a ipad mini for on the go use...Samsung and other companies have devices like that, its a phone when you need it that opens to a portable tablet! Yes they are expensive and not without their issues, but its possable.

I doubt apple will ever do that because they don't want to canabalize the sales of their Ipad minis....

Why have a Macbook/Ipad Pro device when you can sell two seperate devices.

Honestly, its apple's stubbornness in not putting in touch screen into their computers that just ruins the whole experence for me because now you have a tablet that apple will only let go so far, and Laptops that could be much more but they wont because they need two product lines so they sell more volume.

Ipads are borning now...so are the phones cause their is only so much you can do with them in their current form. I wasn't expecting much from WWDC but they really nurffed the Ipad Pro....

It has a M4 chip in it, no other computer they make has that...and yet, outside of the OLED Screen it does the exact same stuff the older pros did for the past 6 years.

I've tried so hard to tell myself i still love Apple products, but after this WWDC i just cant do it. They are still playing catchup with Android at this point!

I cant be the only one that feels this way. Its so fustrating cause these devices could do so much more, be so much more, yet apple doesnt let them!

If you don’t have a 15 Pro you should keep that iPad, you could benefit from using the writing tools

 

[Anaxarxes]

Just dreaming of iPads running iPadOS normally and switch to macOS when docked to magic keyboard /w touch input disabled.

What a device would that be...

 

[Webcat86]

Just dreaming of iPads running iPadOS normally and switch to macOS when docked to magic keyboard /w touch input disabled.

What a device would that be...

Oh yeah, I'm sure that a touch-first device with touch input disabled wouldn't get any criticism at all...

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Yes but I think its the prepared video that sucks the energy out of the launch, and in this case the lack of anything being launched. They’ve drifted far from what got people excited about Apple & made them popular in the first place. A live keynote introducing the years new creative products designed with loads of endearing personal features, even if you weren't in the market for them. This is the complete opposite of that, I‘m sitting there wondering why I got all excited to watch an advertisement video that isn’t live, trying to sell me nothing, but talking about minor OS features that won’t install on practically anything.

 

[stocklen]

Yes but I think its the prepared video that sucks the energy out of the launch, and in this case the lack of anything being launched. They’ve drifted far from what got people excited about Apple & made them popular in the first place. A live keynote introducing the years new creative products designed with loads of endearing personal features, even if you weren't in the market for them. This is the complete opposite of that, I‘m sitting there wondering why I got all excited to watch an advertisement video that isn’t live, trying to sell me nothing, but talking about minor OS features that won’t install on practically anything.

Is iOS18 that supports a 7 year old iPhoneX really deserving your hyperbolic description of "OS features that wont install on practically anything"?

 

[frost_horizon]

Why can't people accept that the iPad is its own product line? It is the consumer, not Apple, that has decided the iPad is something else and then gets angry that Apple hasn't made it happen.

The product line that advertised as a general computer, but in fact is either a drawing device or YouTube player.

 

[Rychiar]

Yup iPads have been boring for a long time. That’s why I switched to Vision Pro. Even if it doesn’t solve a particular problem its exciting new fun technology at least… though WWDC was way more boring than expected on Vision OS front

 

[FeliApple]

No. Will people ever get tired of posting this?

 

[TechnoMonk]

Nope, I am on Devloper beta preview ipad OS beta with my M1 iPad Pro. It’s the best Software upgrade for iPad OS in over a decade. It’s very intuitive and takes complexity out. Notes is at another level In the latest update. Cant wait for other developers to start taking advantage of those features.