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dugbug

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I don't mind its looks, but it is basic. I wonder why they didn't square up those curved sides a bit and give it more of a cube look. I think that would have made a lot of folks happier with the aesthetics without changing the shape/idea.
 
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JohnnyWalker

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Yes, because that’s what‘s important. Who cares what’s inside the box? 🙄

I never said it was what's important. I said it looks BLAND. Which it does. It looks like something any other company could come up with. It looks only a little better than any other minor company's tech.

Eg.

Of course, I guess it all looks the same to you, so it doesn't matter.
 
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saulinpa

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It might not seem important but Apple went to me too designs in the 1990s and their stock tanked. Later they went back to taking risks with flashy designs and the stock came back.
 
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Appletoni

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What’s crazy is the amount of compute power packed in such a small package. The Studio will cut down on Mac Pros. It outperforms the 2,000 dollar afterburner card as well.
That’s why a lot of people need the M1 Ultra inside the high-end MacBook Pro.
 

JohnnyWalker

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Exactly. Apple products literally in the museum of modern art.

It's astonishing that someone is arguing against the potential beauty of technology on an Apple forum! If you don't care what your products look like, and only care about specs, then go away and buy a DELL!
 

coolerkid

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Not disappointed with the Studio, just disappointed with the lack of options available now for semi-pro consumers. Apple should have released the new Mac mini and Pro around the same times as these. Now more semi-pro users don't know if they should wait for the new mini, which who knows how long that could be, or buy the studio now, which is overkill for most users. And pro users don't know if they should buy the Studio Ultra, which is definitely a pro level machine, or wait for a pro machine, which may not come along for a while and may be overkill and overpriced for even pro user needs. Mostly I'm disappointed there will be no 27" iMac, which is what I've been waiting for. So right now there's no clear upgrade for me other than overspending on a Studio or buying a dated Mac mini
 

dizmonk

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Not disappointed with the Studio, just disappointed with the lack of options available now for semi-pro consumers. Apple should have released the new Mac mini and Pro around the same times as these. Now more semi-pro users don't know if they should wait for the new mini, which who knows how long that could be, or buy the studio now, which is overkill for most users. And pro users don't know if they should buy the Studio Ultra, which is definitely a pro level machine, or wait for a pro machine, which may not come along for a while and may be overkill and overpriced for even pro user needs. Mostly I'm disappointed there will be no 27" iMac, which is what I've been waiting for. So right now there's no clear upgrade for me other than overspending on a Studio or buying a dated Mac mini
I'm kinda with you... My problem is right NOW there's no clear alternative to a 27" inch Imac. I really want an Apple Silicon desktop but I'm completely turned off by the stupid color scheme/white bezels of the 24" imac (and I don't want to go down in screen real estate). I know the Mac Studio is way more than I need but there's no clear alternative to the 2020 Intel Imac now... I'm still inclined to keep my base Studio order (even though I know it's more than I need) as I plan on keeping this thing for 5-7 years.

The more reviews I read the more I'm coming around to the argument that Apple will release some version of a 27" later this year. There feels like there's an obvious gap in the lineup now.
 

eelpout

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I think it's pretty clear from Apple's marketing view, that a simultaneously released M1 Pro Mini would have cut into Studio sales. So, they'll wait until the time is right to "refresh" the Mini or until the M2 is ready.
 
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coolerkid

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I'm kinda with you... My problem is right NOW there's no clear alternative to a 27" inch Imac. I really want an Apple Silicon desktop but I'm completely turned off by the stupid color scheme/white bezels of the 24" imac (and I don't want to go down in screen real estate). I know the Mac Studio is way more than I need but there's no clear alternative to the 2020 Intel Imac now... I'm still inclined to keep my base Studio order (even though I know it's more than I need) as I plan on keeping this thing for 5-7 years.

The more reviews I read the more I'm coming around to the argument that Apple will release some version of a 27" later this year. There feels like there's an obvious gap in the lineup now.
If they released a 27" iMac in a few months there would be a lot of very angry customers who paid way too much for this combo, which is likely more than they'll ever need. I may end up buying this, but would be very upset if a 27" iMac came out for under 3k in the near future, or a Mac Mini came out with a new processor that made it somewhat comparable to the Studio for most users needs for half the price. I don't want to keep waiting but very confused what to get with their current lineup.
 
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wilberforce

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If they released a 27" iMac in a few months there would be a lot of very angry customers who paid way too much for this combo, which is likely more than they'll ever need. I may end up buying this, but would be very upset if a 27" iMac came out for under 3k in the near future, or a Mac Mini came out with a new processor that made it somewhat comparable to the Studio for most users needs for half the price. I don't want to keep waiting but very confused what to get with their current lineup.
I expect hope there will be an updated Mini that slots between the current Mini and the Studio.

"Today we are bringing the M2 Pro to the Mini..."
 
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dizmonk

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If they released a 27" iMac in a few months there would be a lot of very angry customers who paid way too much for this combo, which is likely more than they'll ever need. I may end up buying this, but would be very upset if a 27" iMac came out for under 3k in the near future, or a Mac Mini came out with a new processor that made it somewhat comparable to the Studio for most users needs for half the price. I don't want to keep waiting but very confused what to get with their current lineup.
1000% this... They've put a lot of us in a funky spot... I think they will update the Mac Mini this year but I don't know how much...
 
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Spanky Deluxe

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1000% this... They've put a lot of us in a funky spot... I think they will update the Mac Mini this year but I don't know how much...
There’ll be a new Mac Mini, probably with the same form factor, with an M2 chip and probably configurable with up to 32GB RAM by Spring 2023 at the latest. Such a Mac Mini (512GB SSD and 32GB RAM) would likely cost £1499 based on current upgrade costing across models. The entry level Mac Studio with M1 Max is £1999 and will likely be a chunk faster than the M2 in multi core stuff but slower in single thread stuff. I doubt you’re going to regret getting a Mac Studio now if such an M2 comes out in 6-12 months.

Similarly, the iMac will almost certainly get a 27” model once M2 comes out. Not an iMac ‘Pro’ but an iMac that matches the 24” iMac in specs but with the Studio Display’s panel. I’d expect the lines for all their machines to blur even more in the future with an M2 ‘Plus’ that can go into the same logic boards as the M2 without modification that would sit between the base M2 and the M2 Pro in terms of power and would likely rival the M1 Pro. That’s what would make the most sense in terms of hardware ‘guts’ in their machines and cycling upgrades.
 

coolerkid

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There’ll be a new Mac Mini, probably with the same form factor, with an M2 chip and probably configurable with up to 32GB RAM by Spring 2023 at the latest. Such a Mac Mini (512GB SSD and 32GB RAM) would likely cost £1499 based on current upgrade costing across models. The entry level Mac Studio with M1 Max is £1999 and will likely be a chunk faster than the M2 in multi core stuff but slower in single thread stuff. I doubt you’re going to regret getting a Mac Studio now if such an M2 comes out in 6-12 months.

Similarly, the iMac will almost certainly get a 27” model once M2 comes out. Not an iMac ‘Pro’ but an iMac that matches the 24” iMac in specs but with the Studio Display’s panel. I’d expect the lines for all their machines to blur even more in the future with an M2 ‘Plus’ that can go into the same logic boards as the M2 without modification that would sit between the base M2 and the M2 Pro in terms of power and would likely rival the M1 Pro. That’s what would make the most sense in terms of hardware ‘guts’ in their machines and cycling upgrades.
If the next Mac mini matches the current prices with a newer processor, such as an M2 or whatever they are going to call it, it's quite likely that for all practical purposes most entry to semi-pro users who aren't doing intensive video or graphics work won't be able to tell any difference in performance between that and the Mac Studio M1-Max. Many won't even be able to tell the difference between the current Mac mini and the Studio, but I imagine the next one would narrow the gap even more. Someone on a budget could pair that with a nice 4k 27 or 32 inch monitor and get a very nice setup for around $1200-1500. Now combine the new mini internals with a studio display and you have a iMac 27" for around $2500-2800. Both would be great options that people like me would jump on in a heartbeat, instead of sitting here scratching my head on whether I should wait for a computer I don't even know will exist, or overspend on something that's overkill for me right now, or buy a 2 year old Mac mini that may be replaced any day now, or possibly 6+ months from now.
 
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Spanky Deluxe

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If the next Mac mini matches the current prices with a newer processor, such as an M2 or whatever they are going to call it, it's quite likely that for all practical purposes most entry to semi-pro users who aren't doing intensive video or graphics work won't be able to tell any difference in performance between that and the Mac Studio M1-Max. Many won't even be able to tell the difference between the current Mac mini and the Studio, but I imagine the next one would narrow the gap even more. Someone on a budget could pair that with a nice 4k 27 or 32 inch monitor and get a very nice setup for around $1200-1500. Now combine the new mini internals with a studio display and you have a iMac 27" for around $2500-2800. Both would be great options that people like me would jump on in a heartbeat, instead of sitting here scratching my head on whether I should wait for a computer I don't even know will exist, or overspend on something that's overkill for me right now or buy a 2 year old Mac mini that may be replaced any day now, or possibly 6+ months from now.
Based on their current pricing, an M2 Mac Mini with 32GB RAM and a 512GB SSD would likely end up being $1499. You're not going to be getting a 'very nice' setup with 32GB of RAM and a monitor included for $1200. If you don't need 32GB of RAM then there's no reason not to go for the current $1099 Mac Mini model with 16GB. The 'premium' for going for a Mac Studio entry level model over such a hypothetical Mac Mini model would be $500. If you need something now, then just get a Mac Studio and sell it if/when an M2 Mac Mini comes out. Your cost of ownership over 6-12 months in terms of depreciation would probably be something like $300 at most. I'd be absolutely shocked if the Mac Studio is replaced with a new model *before* the Mac Mini gets an update, so at that point you'd still have a 'current' model.
 
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B.A.T

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Buy what you need when you need it. Many people upgrade to the latest and greatest sooner than they need to. I'm still cranking out photos from my 42 megapixel cameras on a 2013 i7 iMac and will continue to do so until this machine dies. I've probably spent a total of around $3000 on this machine between purchase and upgrades (upgraded the fusion drive to SSD, added RAM) and it works. Sure it could be a lot faster and if I were a pro I wouldn't have any issues buying a Studio on Day 1. But I'm not a pro and I'll make do with what I've got until I need to make a decision.
 
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