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aurora_sect

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I've come to love the Logi MX stuff a lot more than Apple's peripherals, so I'm not bothered by it unless Apple truly wanted to give it to me for free. Even then maybe it's a bit like that stack of 100 napkins they give me at the drive through.
 
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PianoPro

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Funny how we can all be so different. I rate the Apple keyboards as average at best, but the magic mouse is absolutely excellent - nothing else comes close to the productivity it provides. Note that I don't game though, which no-doubt would change my opinion.
Yep, people are different - who knew? I'm with you. So-so on Apple keyboard, but they will have to pry my Magic Mouse from my cold, dead hands.
 

DamnDJ

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Feb 17, 2003
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Not at all. I'm a bit of a mechanical keyboard junkie, so I try to use one whenever possible. As for the mouse, I've never really enjoyed the MM. It's fine, but I find the Logitech G305 to be much more comfortable.
 

hoodafoo

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I had no problems with the magic mouse when I used it other than the sharp edges which hurt after long use. Once I tried magic trackpad 2, I never looked back
 

George Dawes

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Jul 17, 2014
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Not really , I've got the extended pro keyboard and I hate the damn thing , looking forward to buying something more compact tbh
 

MajorFubar

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Oct 27, 2021
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Apple include a keyboard and mouse with the iMac because the iMac is sold as an all-in-one solution. The Mini and Studio are not. Literally no-one (except OP) wants Apple to increase the cost of the Studio by the price of a keyboard and mouse they don't need and won't use.
 

MajorFubar

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Oct 27, 2021
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Well, the Mac mini was designed for really poor people, so that doesn't count
It was in 2005 but hasn't been for more than ten years. Apple quickly realised that the Mac they launched to attract people you would class as proletariat bottom-feeders was being used by graphics-designers, videographers, coders, musicians, SM bloggers, YouTubers, and a whole host of other professionals who just wanted to buy a box with the brains in it, which they didn't need to be as powerful or expandable as the Mac Pro, without the K/V/M. Apple even went as far as knobbling the Mini's expandability/upgradability from 2012 onwards, and from 2014 killed-off the high-end i7 quad-core version, because they (rightly) sensed it was so good and so versatile it was sapping potential sales of their Mac Pro.
 
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Tankmaze

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I agree. Keyboard and mouse should be included just like the Mac Pro.
 

Ryand123

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It was in 2005 but hasn't been for more than ten years. Apple quickly realised that the Mac they launched to attract people you would class as proletariat bottom-feeders was being used by graphics-designers, videographers, coders, musicians, SM bloggers, YouTubers, and a whole host of other professionals who just wanted to buy a box with the brains in it, which they didn't need to be as powerful or expandable as the Mac Pro, without the K/V/M. Apple even went as far as knobbling the Mini's expandability/upgradability from 2012 onwards, and from 2014 killed-off the high-end i7 quad-core version, because they (rightly) sensed it was so good and so versatile it was sapping potential sales of their Mac Pro.
I'm just proving what a proletariat bottom feeder I really am with this question, but what is K/V/M?
 

bobcomer

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May 18, 2015
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And here I just ordered the Magic Keyboard with touchID. I hope it doesn't suck as much as you guys say! It's an expensive keyboard for it to suck!

I prefer Microsoft Mice, so no fear about the magic mouse. :)
 
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millerj123

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I hadn't worried about it before, but I have enough preferred keyboards and mice that either way doesn't bother me. At some point I might want to try what they offer, but probably not for the money they want.
 
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MajorFubar

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I'm just proving what a proletariat bottom feeder I really am with this question, but what is K/V/M?
lol Keyboard , Video (monitor), Mouse. BTW my reference to proletariat bottom-feeders was intended to take the p--s out of hoodafoo who said the Mac Mini was only designed for 'really poor people'.
 
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playtech1

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Oct 10, 2014
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I did not notice any price reductions from losing the charger and headphones from iPhones and nor do I detect the Mac Studio being any cheaper for its lack of inclusion of a keyboard and mouse (or the Mini these days either). I just see Apple pocketing the savings as extra profit margin.
 

LonestarOne

macrumors 65816
Sep 13, 2019
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but for 2K+ it should be the default with say an use your own for -$29

Yawn.

No one’s forcing you to buy Apple. No one’s forcing you to buy Apple. No one’s forcing you to buy Apple.

Millions of people are dead from Covid-19, millions are fleeing from the Ukraine, and you’re whining about Apple not giving you a free keyboard.

Sigh.
 

MacsRgr8

macrumors G3
Sep 8, 2002
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One of the gr8 things about getting a new Mac, is getting a brand new spotless new keyboard and mouse. :D
I get that Apple is trying to keep the box small, and you can expect the buyer to already own a k&m, but,.. I will be getting the Apple k&m.
 

roland.g

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Apr 11, 2005
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I had no problems with the magic mouse when I used it other than the sharp edges which hurt after long use. Once I tried magic trackpad 2, I never looked back
I hate a trackpad on a laptop, especially how it gets in the way of the keyboard, but I had the original and the Magic Trackpad 2, and never use a mouse either. They are fantastic. I prefer the original trackpad and keyboard to the lightning charged generation because the batter compartment gives it slightly more elevation which I find perfect. But both work. Likewise the keyboard has great action. I use a similar Arteck $25 keyboard from Amazon for my setup at work on my windows machine because it most closely mimics the chiclet keyboard action on the Magic Keyboard.
 

Earpo44

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Mar 16, 2022
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I’ve always enjoyed the magic keyboards. The Magic Mouse and trackpad both tend to leave my hand cramping after even short periods of use. Mx master 3 ergonomics and extra buttons have been a “game changer” for me 👍🏼
 
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coolerkid

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Feb 26, 2015
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I wouldn't be disappointed if the new mouse/keyboard wasn't $300!!!! That's a little absurd to be spending so much on the Studio Mac/Display combo and then have to spend an extra $300 for a mouse and keyboard, which were always included with the iMacs.
 
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