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Yeah, there are a lot of threads that I stay out of because I have nothing useful to add. I don't know if I would call the stuff that is tried by android makers innovation though. They just throw stuff against a wall with little development and see if it sticks. For a new feature to be innovative, doesn't it have to be actually useful?
Innovation doesn’t just have to be thinking of something first. It can be developing an idea better. Look at the features in the iPhone X for instance. The OLED developed by Samsung and FaceID developed by Apple but both were 20 year old innovations. Innovation doesn’t just have to be useful either, that’s a myth as even the stainless band on an iPhone is a form of innovation.
 
That all sounds very dull and insular to me. You’re a marketeers dream always buying the same thing, stuck in the same boring routine, never trying anything new.

Interesting point. Once trust is established do you change? You choose your doctor, plumber, car, etc the first time based on some criteria. Once they satisfy that criteria trust is established, and the need to try anyone else disappears.

Obviously there is a promise in all relationships, the doctor doesn’t treat you, the plumber makes the problem worse, the car breaks down, etc.

Apple are consistent in keeping their promise. A new phone every year, all your stuff will still work and here is a new feature or two.
 
Interesting point. Once trust is established do you change? You choose your doctor, plumber, car, etc the first time based on some criteria. Once they satisfy that criteria trust is established, and the need to try anyone else disappears.

Obviously there is a promise in all relationships, the doctor doesn’t treat you, the plumber makes the problem worse, the car breaks down, etc.

Apple are consistent in keeping their promise. A new phone every year, all your stuff will still work and here is a new feature or two.
I honestly couldn’t compare the iPhone to a personal relationship between my doctor or a plumbing company. Nothing is guaranteed and consumers go where the best deal is. I like iOS and go for it now, but that doesn’t mean i’ll do that forever, especially if I feel at some point I’m not getting the return I require. The same goes for the plumber or the doctor.
 
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Interesting point. Once trust is established do you change? You choose your doctor, plumber, car, etc the first time based on some criteria. Once they satisfy that criteria trust is established, and the need to try anyone else disappears.

Obviously there is a promise in all relationships, the doctor doesn’t treat you, the plumber makes the problem worse, the car breaks down, etc.

Apple are consistent in keeping their promise. A new phone every year, all your stuff will still work and here is a new feature or two.
While I agree with you in essence, for me Apple is pushing my trust. The last year has been a miserable year for them. High Sierra has problems that never seem to end. iOS 11 changed enough stuff that every time I go into settings to look for something, I end up having to use the search since  has changed where and how they have the settings. And lets look more specifically at the battery issue, while I don't seem to currently have the issue on my 6S, I have noticed increased battery percentage drop with no change in how I use it. My battery is almost 2 years old and only has 87 charge cycles at last check. While aging in Li-Ion batteries is a given, I and many others are starting to believe that Apple went with too small a battery and a cheaper battery supplier. When it comes to phones, thinner works against us when it comes to hardware.
Yes, establishing trust is important, but abusing that trust makes one distrust and it's MUCH harder to reestablish that trust again. Me? I'm on the fence when it comes to trust.
 
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I would have to be awfully bored to spend any time looking at what a droid is capable of because I find them irrelevant to my needs. They don't matter in the least.

Precisely.

And it's more than just a crappy operating system, missing features, and how Android knocked off the original iPhone. You can put that aside for the sake of this argument and your point.

The issue is that after 10 years of using an iPhone, everything else seems foreign. I was never taught how to drive a manual transmission car. So when I go car shopping I don't test drive cars with manual transmissions. Simple as that.
 
Precisely.

And it's more than just a crappy operating system, missing features, and how Android knocked off the original iPhone. You can put that aside for the sake of this argument and your point.

The issue is that after 10 years of using an iPhone, everything else seems foreign. I was never taught how to drive a manual transmission car. So when I go car shopping I don't test drive cars with manual transmissions. Simple as that.

If you think iPhone X is not innovative compared to Android, what about millions of people who are still using nokia 3310. What's your message to them?

If everyone buys a product based on new innovation, he\she will buy a new phone, laptop, car etc every 6 months
 
I haven’t read all pages but, it is a very nice phone and I’m not bored by it as matter of fact phones never bored me but some people .........
 
I got bored with the Galaxy S8 quickly; not so the X but I’ve only had it a week.
 
I don't understand getting bored with a modern smartphone. It's like itching to change your tv every month because you're bored with it. Watch something else. Or do something else. It's all about software and content now. Getting bored with your phone is the sign of a small mind. Make something. Create music, art, beautiful photos. Use fitness data to push yourself. Use the gps to go explore. Take a free online course using your phone. Bored? Please.
 
I can see both sides.

I buy every new phone and I do it because I enjoy it, not because I get "bored".

I haven't had an apple phone since the iPhone 6 (that I have kept longer than a month before I give it to my wife) and then buy a google or samsung phone.
With the iPhone X, I kept it and got rid of my Note 8 and Pixel 2

Why? Face ID and and no home button (I really enjoy closing apps on the iphone x)

Some will say those are small factors for a decision on keeping a phone, but I think like Jimmy James says, its not the "phone" but rather the apps, and all the programming.

Note 8, Iphone, Pixel, Sony, it doesn't really matter what you have, they all somewhat do the same thing for 70% of the product.



When we do spend this much on phones, it is fair to feel board
 
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If you think iPhone X is not innovative compared to Android, what about millions of people who are still using nokia 3310. What's your message to them?

If everyone buys a product based on new innovation, he\she will buy a new phone, laptop, car etc every 6 months

I don't consider a faster processor "innovation" and that seems to be all that the iPhone knockoffs are offering these days.

I'm talking about big ideas like wireless charging, facial recognition, OLED, edge-to-edge displays....that kind of thing. So the iPhone X is extremely innovative, certainly a reason to kick the ol' 6 to the curb and lay down the coin for the newest and greatest iPhone. At least that's what I decided for myself. And I'm not bored, quite the contrary.
 
I don't understand getting bored with a modern smartphone. It's like itching to change your tv every month because you're bored with it. Watch something else. Or do something else. It's all about software and content now. Getting bored with your phone is the sign of a small mind. Make something. Create music, art, beautiful photos. Use fitness data to push yourself. Use the gps to go explore. Take a free online course using your phone. Bored? Please.

Good examples in your post. Smart phones are superseded so quickly by the next version, those who do get bored, likely upgrade annually as it is to the Newest device. So they are not entertained for very long with the latest device. Others could use the same iPhone for five years and never consider it boring.
 
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Maybe it'd be more exciting if it sucked and didn't work right.

I'll refer you to my coworker who, a couple months after buying his first Mac laptop, said that he was getting bored with it. I asked why, and and he said, "Because I don't have to do anything to keep it running. It's not like my old laptop where I was always defragging and trying to fix driver updates and whatnot. This new Mac just works. I need to think of actual work that I can do with it." He was kinda joking, and he's been embedded in the Apple ecosystem ever since.

It's like when car guys talk about how much fun they have getting an old, unreliable car working and then coaxing it to survive a cross-town journey.
 
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Maybe it'd be more exciting if it sucked and didn't work right.

I'll refer you to my coworker who, a couple months after buying his first Mac laptop, said that he was getting bored with it. I asked why, and and he said, "Because I don't have to do anything to keep it running. It's not like my old laptop where I was always defragging and trying to fix driver updates and whatnot. This new Mac just works. I need to think of actual work that I can do with it." He was kinda joking, and he's been embedded in the Apple ecosystem ever since.

It's like when car guys talk about how much fun they have getting an old, unreliable car working and then coaxing it to survive a cross-town journey.


Yeah, the maintenance work is never ending on Windows PCs. You didn't mention deleting temp files, updating malware protection, and scanning for viruses and Malware. It is really nice to just use a PC without the constant tinkering.
 
I don't consider a faster processor "innovation" and that seems to be all that the iPhone knockoffs are offering these days.

I'm talking about big ideas like wireless charging, facial recognition, OLED, edge-to-edge displays....that kind of thing. So the iPhone X is extremely innovative, certainly a reason to kick the ol' 6 to the curb and lay down the coin for the newest and greatest iPhone. At least that's what I decided for myself. And I'm not bored, quite the contrary.

How could one be bored with a trophy wife and a bmw?

Does your sig mean you own 4 iPhone X? Or you’ve returned it 3 times?
 
The OP is not alone. The iphone is boring. And it's all due to the lack of customisation in ios. It needs an overhaul. Blind freddy can see that.

In 2010 ios introduced folders, which was awesome, we could finally put apps into different folders. Who doesn't like the folders? Nobody. Well guess what people, folders is a form of customisation. In the 8 years since, we have seen a few more forms of minor customisation such as opening up the keyboard to 3rd party keyboards, widgets on the dedicated widgets page and most recently, the ability to customise control centre. But it's now 2018, and as Tim Cook says, it's time to take it to the next level.

All one has to do is google "post a pic of your Note 8 home screen" to realise how stagnant and blood clottingly dehabilitating the iphone home screen has become. Most of the Note 8 home screen pics I have seen are magnificent. And on the Note 8 display, boy they look slick. I'm not suggesting that ios should go over the top like being able to choose your web browser or messages app, or even something sick like re-rooting your phone, but surely iphone users should now, in 2018, be able to customise their home screen any which way they like. The boring grid of apps is long past its used by date.

Trust me, just as EVERYONE embraced folders, almost everyone would embrace customisation. I'm tipping 99.99% of iphone users would change their homescreen in some form or another. And hence, no more boredom.

And for those who like the boring grid of apps, fine, leave your homescreen the way it is. Have the grid of apps straight out of the box if you want. No one is forcing you to change. But give those that want change the ability to change. The inability to change has become oppressive...and...boring.

I'm also tipping that if customisation ever comes to ios, Apple will get back a lot of its customers that it list to android because of a lack of customisation. It's a win/win situation for all. Unfortunately the donkeys currently running Apple can't see that.
 
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The OP is not alone. The iphone is boring. And it's all due to the lack of customisation in ios. It needs an overhaul. Blind freddy can see that.

In 2010 ios introduced folders, which was awesome, we could finally put apps into different folders. Who doesn't like the folders? Nobody. Well guess what people, folders is a form of customisation. In the 8 years since, we have seen a few more forms of minor customisation such as opening up the keyboard to 3rd party keyboards, widgets on the dedicated widgets page and most recently, the ability to customise control centre. But it's now 2018, and as Tim Cook says, it's time to take it to the next level.

All one has to do is google "post a pic of your Note 8 home screen" to realise how stagnant and blood clottingly dehabilitating the iphone home screen has become. Most of the Note 8 home screen pics I have seen are magnificent. And on the Note 8 display, boy they look slick. I'm not suggesting that ios should go over the top like being able to choose your web browser or messages app, or even something sick like re-rooting your phone, but surely iphone users should now, in 2018, be able to customise their home screen any which way they like. The boring grid of apps is long past its used by date.

Trust me, just as EVERYONE embraced folders, almost everyone would embrace customisation. I'm tipping 99.99% of iphone users would change their homescreen in some form or another. And hence, no more boredom.

And for those who like the boring grid of apps, fine, leave your homescreen the way it is. Have the grid of apps straight out of the box if you want. No one is forcing you to change. But give those that want change the ability to change. The inability to change has become oppressive...and...boring.

I'm also tipping that if customisation ever comes to ios, Apple will get back a lot of its customers that it list to android because of a lack of customisation. It's a win/win situation for all. Unfortunately the donkeys currently running Apple can't see that.

So being able to change my home screen means no more boredom? Likely because now my time is occupied trying to tweak and find the coolest look I can for my home screen instead of actually using my device. Meh. I don't really care how my home screen looks as long as it gives me access to my apps. I look at my running apps (email, twitter, ibooks, yahoo sports, etc) far more than I look at my home screen. Its just a launchpad for what I'm really going to do. Do I really need a way to customize it to keep from being bored? I don't. If I'm bored I can read a book on ibooks or text my wife, or maybe just maybe get up and actually do something in the real world. Yes, I've used Android, my work phone a while back was a Note, and yes you have settings for everything tucked away everywhere. I found it exhausting to try to get my phone set up and gave up trying to get every app and every interface the way I wanted. Turning on my iPhone was a joy because I could just use it without all of that.

If uber customization were enabled, I would likely just set it and leave it and never really touch it again. I understand others want this capability, and I am not necessarily opposed to it, unless it created a performance hit or additional bugs (likely it would do both). I'm just saying not everyone wants it, and those who do are typically already with Android. Those using iPhones for the most part aren't beating the doors down for it.

No, I'm not bored
 
So being able to change my home screen means no more boredom? Likely because now my time is occupied trying to tweak and find the coolest look I can for my home screen instead of actually using my device. Meh. I don't really care how my home screen looks as long as it gives me access to my apps. I look at my running apps (email, twitter, ibooks, yahoo sports, etc) far more than I look at my home screen. Its just a launchpad for what I'm really going to do. Do I really need a way to customize it to keep from being bored? I don't. If I'm bored I can read a book on ibooks or text my wife, or maybe just maybe get up and actually do something in the real world. Yes, I've used Android, my work phone a while back was a Note, and yes you have settings for everything tucked away everywhere. I found it exhausting to try to get my phone set up and gave up trying to get every app and every interface the way I wanted. Turning on my iPhone was a joy because I could just use it without all of that.

If uber customization were enabled, I would likely just set it and leave it and never really touch it again. I understand others want this capability, and I am not necessarily opposed to it, unless it created a performance hit or additional bugs (likely it would do both). I'm just saying not everyone wants it, and those who do are typically already with Android. Those using iPhones for the most part aren't beating the doors down for it.

No, I'm not bored

As I said, which you acknowledged, you don't have to customise. If Apple set the home screen factorysetting to its original form factor, being the grid of apps, no problem for you, right? Or anyone else for that matter, assuming we could customise. But let those that want to customise, customise. I had a Note 3 in 2013, and personally, I enjoyed customising. I found it did fill in the gaps when I was bored. Unfortunately the Note line at that time was so inadequate with regards to performance that I gave it up. But I'm tipping the customisation + user experience on a Note 8 or Note 9 would be super cool. And hey, if I ever get tired of customising, I just use the device the way I would use an iPhone...except I've always got the luxury of changing it around when I genuinely do want change. Like I said, win/win.
 
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I’m not bored of my X but using this phone made me realize how stupid the price of this device is IMO. Absolutely not worth it for my needs.
 
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Get a 2017 iPad 12.9” - probably the best piece of hardware Apple has ever made. You won’t get bored of that
 
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