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Anyone else put off by Tim Cook's forced enthusiasm during keynote?
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HOLY COW, thank god I wasn't the only one who noticed how terrible of a presentation the iPod guy gave....it was brutal to watch.
Lest we forget, the reason that we all watched was for the products. 
Show me the goods and give me adequate presentation, which Cook did. Jobs was one of a kind and comparisons aren't fair to anyone. He's not coming back.
Show me the goods and give me adequate presentation, which Cook did. Jobs was one of a kind and comparisons aren't fair to anyone. He's not coming back.
Lest we forget, the reason that we all watched was for the products.
Show me the goods and give me adequate presentation, which Cook did. Jobs was one of a kind and comparisons aren't fair to anyone. He's not coming back.
And some of these folks are registered voters.
Jobs is dead. Continuing to use him as a yardstick gets increasingly pointless as time progresses.
He's not with us anymore, and it's time to begin disassociating him with Apple.
Compared to Jobs, sure, anyone will look pretty bad. Jobs was the consummate salesman. But it's time now to evaluate Cook based on whether he delivered, and I think he did. He and his team got the points across. And Apple is probably gonna sell lots of iPhone 5s.
And at the end of that day THAT is what people are buying. Not a piece of Jobs, or a piece of Cook. It's a hunk of metal and glass that does things. And either it'll do things the way you like them to be done (in which case you should keep it), or it won't (in which case, go buy an Android or Windows phone).
Who says 4" is too small for 2011? Is appropriate phone size measured by year? Will 5" be too small for 2013?
The keynote clearly explained that there is a sweetspot for phone screens, and they wanted to make it easy for you to have one handed access to the entire screen. It might not work for others who need huge screens, but that's a logical explanation to me.
As far as the desktop front, I think they are waiting to have retina displays ready for iMacs... it's not like every desktop/notebook was innovative on every refresh cycle while Jobs was alive?? It's too early to judge Tim Cook as CEO. I haven't seen sales figures after Steve Jobs died, but if there is a decrease, then I can say you're right.
Disassociating him with Apple? The man built the damn company and resurrected it from the grave.
I forgot where I read it, but I remember seeing an article that stated Steve Jobs told Tim Cook that he wanted him to do what's best for the company, and not to think about he would do, or what he would want in a situation.
I think Tim did much better than previous presentations, but he's not the showman that Jobs was, not to bring his name up again. Tim doesn't have the cadence, timing or seemingly the passion needed to excite the crowd.
Heck, I could be more engaging and exciting on stage talking about this stuff. Of course they all stick to a script, which I understand their doing so, but they're just not good enough actors to do it right (do it the way SJ did).
Heck, I could be more engaging and exciting on stage talking about this stuff. Of course they all stick to a script, which I understand their doing so, but they're just not good enough actors to do it right (do it the way SJ did).
I didn't say too small, at least quote me right. It's small compared to the other phones on the market. At it most certainly does change by year. They have been getting bigger, remember little 2" colour screens in the early 2000's, and 1" monochrome screens a few years before that? The earlier blackberries which really started the smartphone revolution had tiny screens too. The overall market is growing screens and you get choice. Other companies let you pick whatever you want from 3-5+ inches. Not what some moron tells you is the right size.
Oh Gee, well if Apple's marketing people say so, it must be true. Try using that lump of neurons in your head instead of letting someone else tell you what thoughts to have.
2560x1440 is already retina, it's 108 DPI and viewed from a couple of feet away. iPhone at 8 inches = 27" iMac at 2 feet in terms of perceived pixel resolution.
If Apple is waiting this long just for more screen res, Timmy is the biggest idiot in the world. Besides that, how do you explain the mini and the pro then?
Has Apple ever gone this long without a refresh? Other companies actually lower the price on products over the life cycle, they don't expect idiots to buy 2 year old crap at prices from 2 years ago.
I think people need to stop comparing Steve and Tim. Jobs is dead now get over it. Life goes on.
Of all of Steve J's legacies, the keynote must be the most difficult to shoulder. Tim simply isn't a presenter. His southern accent, his delivery style, his grimacing smiles simply don't add to a successful product launch. It's not about comparison, it's about reality. I think it's good that other Apple execs take part, it shows how much effort and knowledge goes into a new product. Some of the best presentations in the past have been from somewhat obscure Apple engineers.
If Apple continues to use standalone product launches, Tim would do well to limit his time on stage or get a speech coach. His delivery just isn't right and it's really somewhat of a turn off. It may be fine for developers or suppliers or others, but not the general public.
If Apple continues to use standalone product launches, Tim would do well to limit his time on stage or get a speech coach. His delivery just isn't right and it's really somewhat of a turn off. It may be fine for developers or suppliers or others, but not the general public.
The fundamental thing is that Jobs was the guy who helped put Apple together, then saved it from its death spiral. Cook is an intelligent person, but he always has been an employee, or in Dilbert-speak, a PHB.
Cook is sitting on a critical turning point for Apple, because Apple either continues its rise, or it hits its zenith and turns into another big company like Microsoft, HP, Oracle, or Dell.
Apple shouldn't turn its back on the Mac universe too soon. Yes, iPads sell, but Macs are ordered by name by corporate execs over top of the line PC clones in order to impress clients, even if the Macbook is just running the latest corporate Windows image.
I remember reading that Jobs left about three years worth of devices in the supply channels.
Apple does have a bunch of aces up its sleeve even if the devices start getting lackluster. One market that Apple has historically avoided because they are a consumer company, but they could possibly take by storm is the enterprise. Convincing one CxO to spend a billion dollars for a high volume purchase is a lot easier than convincing two million people to buy a $500 item.
I'm crossing my fingers -- Cook has big shoes to fill, and IMHO, he is doing a decent job even without Jobs's RDF.
Cook is sitting on a critical turning point for Apple, because Apple either continues its rise, or it hits its zenith and turns into another big company like Microsoft, HP, Oracle, or Dell.
Apple shouldn't turn its back on the Mac universe too soon. Yes, iPads sell, but Macs are ordered by name by corporate execs over top of the line PC clones in order to impress clients, even if the Macbook is just running the latest corporate Windows image.
I remember reading that Jobs left about three years worth of devices in the supply channels.
Apple does have a bunch of aces up its sleeve even if the devices start getting lackluster. One market that Apple has historically avoided because they are a consumer company, but they could possibly take by storm is the enterprise. Convincing one CxO to spend a billion dollars for a high volume purchase is a lot easier than convincing two million people to buy a $500 item.
I'm crossing my fingers -- Cook has big shoes to fill, and IMHO, he is doing a decent job even without Jobs's RDF.
But he didn't do the presentation. Well, he did the intro, the 'this is how our business is doing' bit as many CEOs will, and the outtro. But the meat of the presentation, that is the presentation of the new toys, was done by others.
Jobs used to do all of that himself, until his health started floundering and he switched more and more to the format that Cook still uses today.
I don't think that's true at all. Sure, Cook at that point very likely didn't have the influence on the direction of the company and its products that he does now, but it was still him who did all the Ops stuff. Jobs was never great at that. Cook's job was to make everything go smoothly in manufacturing and such.
I do indeed wonder what happened there.
Selling to enterprise oftentimes means giving up control. If a company commits to one billion dollars worth of a product, oftentimes they want it to reflect their company. Even a discrete logo on the device would be anethma to Apple, much less some kind of customized hardware. The iPad has taken off so well in so many businesses because it's a brilliant device, and the App Store allows it to serve many, many masters. Apple's future is in continuing to build brilliant devices and allow the customer, whether a consumer or a multinational, to figure out how it can best utilize it.
Maybe people don't want a 4.8" screen in their phone. At some point, the phone sizes are going to stop, as you say, "getting bigger each year." Can you honestly say you want to hold a 5 or 6" screen up to your head for phone calls?
BTW, before you say it, yes, I've owned phones by other manufacturers and currently have a 4.3" inch Galaxy S2. I can't imagine ever wanting a screen bigger than that in my phone.
A 4" display sounds just right.
As for the refresh, if you're referring to the Mac line of computers, that's beside the point. If you're referring to the iPhone, the 5 IS a refresh. Even if you don't like it. And that "2 year old crap" will most likely perform better than most (if not all) Android phones on the market with "cutting edge technology." Why? Because Apple waits and perfects technology before unleashing it on the public.
I didn't say it was the correct phone size because they said it is. I said they explained their logic behind making it 4". The explanation made sense to me. I know females that don't prefer big screen phones. Yes there is always the 4 and 4S but that would be alienating people with smaller hands or those that don't want monster screens in a newer pocket phone. Would I like a bigger screen? Of course.
326 ppi or whatever it is, is what they consider Retina. It's their term that they coined. If that's the case then you can stand from across the room from an old Macintosh and it's "retina", by your logic.
All I am saying is you are judging that Tim Cook is a failed CEO, with no sales figures or facts to back the claim...I'm sure it takes time to transition things and focus on the most important products, the MacBook Pro is the highest selling one of their computers so logically they refreshed it first. We can only guess why they're doing what they do.
Well it's 2012 and every smartphone maker in the world except Apple gives you that option (or smaller).
retina is an apple marketing term that has to do with how many arcseconds apart the pixels are at a viewing distance. My previous post uses Apple's definition and 27" imac is retina according to apple. 326dpi has nothing to do with it.
There's an immense amount of inertia to sales figures and to the perceived value of the apple name. They can sell garbage and still pump 50 million units into the market, but it works both ways, once they damage their rep with crap like the iphone 5 and 2-year-old imac, no matter how good the product is they won't be able to sell it.
I know many a person with a samsung who complain the screen is too large because they can't reach the top left of the screen if they hold it in their right hand.
I also know one idiot with a dell the size of a brick. On that thng even that jaws dude from moonraker with his giant hands wouldn't be able to do it.
I really like the 3.5" screen size on the current phone. Extrapolating (by seeing how far above the screen I can reach) I think 4" will be ok too. At the very least I already like it being (roughly) 16:9.
Schiller and Cook were okay I thought but the one person I felt mailed it in was Forstall. To me he seemed like he didn't want to be there. Maybe there's some disagreement regarding the direction of iOS or maybe he just feels like it could or should be better.
Obviously this is just my opinion and I could be way off the mark but he wasn't convincing about how excited he was about the OS.
Obviously this is just my opinion and I could be way off the mark but he wasn't convincing about how excited he was about the OS.