It is your assumption that people would want to upgrade from a 13 to 14 that is the problem. A single year upgrade is rarely worthwhile unless you are one who just feels like you always have to have the latest. Most people getting a 14 are going to be coming from a 12, 11, 10, or 8. They will likely see a significant upgrade for their money.
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iPhone 13 Pro Max Anyone else think the iPhone 14 Max is pointless?
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I imagine it’s like saying a refurbished 2018 iPad Pro is a better deal than the 2020 iPad Air. Yes if you can find one, but it’s simply not going to be a feasible option for the majority of consumers who don’t camp at the apple website, or just prefer to buy one direct from the apple store.
I think you missed the third post in this thread where I said this: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...one-14-max-is-pointless.2346397/post-31137929
I’m not talking refurbished or even open box. New in box, every year at Best Buy, at least in Canada where I live, they have tonnes of discounted previous years models for at least several days after the launch of the new ones. Plenty elsewhere too but that’s the site where I look. Just not Apple.
And what's so special about AOD that the 13 or earlier amoled iphones couldn't have it too?
Marketing. Apple didn’t need to pull such a move until now. Similar reason to why 128GB storage models don’t have 4K ProRes.
The simple answer to that is just buy from another retailer who will stock the 13 Pro once the 14’s come out. Sure Apple discontinue them but they are still available for quite a while from other retailers. You can still get the 12 Pro now on contract.
The OP has a valid point and it’s an option I am considering. If the 13 Pro is a similar price to the standard 14, i’ll probably upgrade to that instead.
Do typical consumers of the iPhone buy directly from Apple? I don’t know anybody that does because the better deals are elsewhere. Perhaps different countries have types of consumer but in mine I’d say Apple is the least popular place to buy an iPhone. Most people are in contract to spread the cost of these hideously priced handsets.
If the iPhone 14 looks like this I'd definitely get it!"Even though the worst days of lockdowns are thankfully behind us, 2022 has been a tough year on many fronts. Economic uncertainties, the war in Ukraine, and supply-side issues are expected to weigh on phone production. Apple is also expected to produce fewer iPhones than analysts had predicted, and while some of that could be chalked down to the aforementioned exterior factors, some of it comes down to the fact that iPhone 14 will not be a significant upgrade over the iPhone 13."
Apple may have trimmed production forecast because iPhone 14 is a modest upgrade
Apple has a conservative production plan for the iPhone this year and it's partly because it knows the iPhone 14 is not a game-changer.www.phonearena.com
Some people upgrade no matter what but I’m not seeing anything compelling about the 14, Apple May be in for a reality check this year, the Combination of design decisions and consumer sentiment, inflation, gas prices might be enough to make people skip this cycle
I was rereading reviews of the mini 13 and am actually pretty excited to get it, I don’t thing I realized how many improvements they made over the 12, i guess the lackluster design of the 14 serves To give it more life, this really will be my last phone til apple produces a small one again, I’ve never been interested in the bendables…. Apple will still get my money though, my iPad Pro will probably get upgraded, hoping for oled or micro led at some point for the 12.9
Not at all. This would be perfect for someone like my mom. She wants the bigger screen but without having to pay extra (Pro Max) for it. All she cares about is, "I can't see that well, get me the iPhone with a biggest screen." All those extra features the PM offers, she doesn't need.
The iPhone 13 screens run at refresh rates between 10 and 120Hz. Faster refresh updates the screen image but uses power each time. When Apple added AOD to the Watch, they introduced a version of the screen that could slow down to 1Hz (once per second). that saved enough power to allow the screen to be always on.
The current screen is an LTPS OLED. They would likely need to switch to an LTPO OLED to be able to go down to 1Hz on the iPhone so they could do AOD efficiently. If they were to enable that on existing phones, the battery life would suffer.
I can tell you from using my Series 7 Watch that AOD is a pretty minor feature. It looks like at first but I find that most times when I want to see the screen, I'm already bring it up to look directly at it anyway and that would turn on the screen with or without AOD. I would not be too worried if my phone did not support it (of course it doesn't now anyway).
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I think this might turn out to be another lineup of phones that goes away after a year or two. I think the Max will wind up selling really well. Too well, to the point that it takes away from the Pro Max.
Ideally I'd love to drop the "Pro" separation and just make it iPhone again. Three sizes, same features (one of those being a mini sized or something in that range)
Ideally I'd love to drop the "Pro" separation and just make it iPhone again. Three sizes, same features (one of those being a mini sized or something in that range)
Agree, it irks me not having the telephoto lens on the mini, we would have it if they hadn’t divided up the line up, I don’t even care about cost, just wanted my mini to have the pro features
How do ppl honestly not think an annual release is necessary? Everyone upgrades at different times. So if I had an iPhone 7 I should upgrade to either a now mid-late cycle $1000 13 that will not have the newest tech, or wait years for my next phone so I get the most for my buck? Ridiculous, ofc there should be a phone every year theres always something, no matter how trivial for YOU to be upgraded. Some people hold onto them for a very long time.
Me thinks, Apple should go back to having just 1 iPhone line (with it's respective Plus) like what we had with the 6, 6S and 7.
I enjoyed the yearly upgrade every since the 3g, had tmobile jump on demand so just turned it in every year and got the new one, but the last few years has seen the excitement drain out of doing that…. Functionally things have not changed much in many years… my favorite were the first iPhone se and I really liked the xs
I wouldn’t be surprised if that is typical for every new release. Many people get their iPhones on a 2-year payoff plan. Plus TBH, annual updates only mean a slight improvement, if any, more often than not. Personally, I tend to update to a new iphone only ever 3 or 4 years. Seems pointless to update a one year old $1000+ device every year for another one that has so little improvement year over year. People with plenty of money can do what they want, but I don’t see enough value in a one year update to warrant my hard to come by money! BTW, I upgraded from an iPhone XR to the iPhone 13 Pro Max this year, and that was a good upgrade and worth the money. I will skip the iPhone 14 and 15 models though and maybe think of upgrading to a 16 a few years from now.
Yearly update cycle does not mean that each customer updates each year, just that there is model each year when your update cycle comes around.
I agree but people still gonna upgrade every year anyway just because. And the phone carriers are still probably gonna give $800-$1,000 off the new 14’s anyway
Facts! I myself thought about getting an android phone which is also good and affordable, lets's see if the price of the next iPhone series reduces.