iPhone 13 Pro Max Anyone else think the iPhone 14 Max is pointless?

[The Game 161]

Hear me out first.

With loud and clear rumors the 14 will still use the A15, possibly be delayed, go up in price by $100, wouldn't a discounted 13 Pro Max from a 3rd party retailer like Best Buy, at 14 launch day or earlier, be the better buy?

Between the two, the 14 Max will be slower, have 60Hz refresh vs 120Hz, probably have inferior cameras, same notch, perhaps better battery life due to less cores, if a discounted 13 Pro Max is only $100 more or even priced with a 14 Max, isn't this a no-brainer? (Not a rhetorical question)

This in spite of the fact that some analysts think the 14 Max will be the most popular model.

Yesh I mean 900 for 60hz is simply wrong and bad. If you are in the market for a device and don’t want to pay pro prices just get the 13 pro max

 

[ouruniverse06131986]

I’ll buy it if it came with 2TB. But I don’t think that’s happening on the 14 I think it’ll happen on the 17 or 18.

 

[Mercury7]

Yearly update cycle does not mean that each customer updates each year, just that there is model each year when your update cycle comes around.

True… was just saying tmobiles jump on demand program made it a no brainer to pick up a new phone every year, that changed when price increases and pro models came along, they started chargiing Downpayments,depending on which one you chose… but it was great while it lasted

 

[mpavilion]

There’s a long thread on here of people complaining about the camera processing in the 13 series, so that may come in to play (if it’s handled differently on the 14).

 

[MayaUser]

the 14 max is not pointless as is the normal 14 compared to the normal 13 if the rumours come true
Apple is making the 14 max, just for 1 reason...to justify increase the price for the Pro models because with the 14 max being so close in price with the 14 pro is not the apple way

 

[MayaUser]

Apple is making a $200 price difference between the bigger normal iphone and the entry Pro model, 799 vs 999
So by making a 14 max apple face the situation where they have 2 options
1) The starting price of the 14 decrease by 100 and starts at the current mini 699 and the 14 max takes the current 13 iphone price -799
or
2) Keeping the price for the normal one at 799, making the 14 max 899 and the Pro models to start at 1099 and 1199 for the pro max
We all know which path Apple will take and for a long time i cant defend Apple in this situation where the (if true) iphone 14 will be almost identical to the iphone 13 even at SoC level for the first time

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I don’t mind them putting the price up of the Pro models because I’ve always felt they are a little overpriced. I’ve never been comfortable with paying a grand upwards for a smartphone and if the price goes up further, it just makes it easier to ignore when I come to upgrade. If the 14 goes up too, i’ll simply get last years Pro.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

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[MayaUser]

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what? something happened?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

what? something happened?

Forum glitch, it posted the same post twice.

 

[lindros2]

If one of the 14 models has direct phone to satellite communication for emergency text messaging- that’s ground breaking.

But if not… snooze fest

how would the antenna work?

 

[scott Lashville]

I’ll buy it if it came with 2TB. But I don’t think that’s happening on the 14 I think it’ll happen on the 17 or 18.

It'll be an external hard drive and not an iPhone!

 

[Paninnguaq]

The Max exists so that group of on-the-fence 13 owners who are in search of a reason to upgrade have a reason to upgrade. It exists to gloss over the fact that the 14 Max will have the same processor as the 13. Now those people can ignore the year old processor and justify the purchase on the basis that it's a new and bigger size at a price lower than the Pro Max. Tim Apple can then laugh all the way to the bank because he managed to sell those people another phone with the exact same processor.

 

[Tagbert]

The Max exists so that group of on-the-fence 13 owners who are in search of a reason to upgrade have a reason to upgrade. It exists to gloss over the fact that the 14 Max will have the same processor as the 13. Now those people can ignore the year old processor and justify the purchase on the basis that it's a new and bigger size at a price lower than the Pro Max. Tim Apple can then laugh all the way to the bank because he managed to sell those people another phone with the exact same processor.

i don’t know, we’re just thinking of getting a 14 Max to replace my husband‘s XR. His vision isn’t super sharp and the larger screen will probably be good for him. I don’t care if Tim laughs or cries. It’s just time for a newer phone.

 

[Paninnguaq]

i don’t know, we’re just thinking of getting a 14 Max to replace my husband‘s XR. His vision isn’t super sharp and the larger screen will probably be good for him. I don’t care if Tim laughs or cries. It’s just time for a newer phone.

An XR to a 14 is definitely an upgrade.

A 13 to a 14 non-Pro? Not quite so much.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The Max exists so that group of on-the-fence 13 owners who are in search of a reason to upgrade have a reason to upgrade. It exists to gloss over the fact that the 14 Max will have the same processor as the 13. Now those people can ignore the year old processor and justify the purchase on the basis that it's a new and bigger size at a price lower than the Pro Max. Tim Apple can then laugh all the way to the bank because he managed to sell those people another phone with the exact same processor.

I think iPhone users who upgrade annually are a very small percentage overall to be honest. Two or three years seems to be more of a common upgrade cycle.

 

[Mercury7]

I think iPhone users who upgrade annually are a very small percentage overall to be honest. Two or three years seems to be more of a common upgrade cycle.

Apples yearly sales numbers indicate a small percentage of the entire population of the world, I still find it amazing the iPhone mini was considered a dud just because they only sold millions. Kinda hard to evaluate any numbers on apples scale, their failures would be considered runaway success stories for any other company

 

[ian87w]

The Max exists so that group of on-the-fence 13 owners who are in search of a reason to upgrade have a reason to upgrade. It exists to gloss over the fact that the 14 Max will have the same processor as the 13. Now those people can ignore the year old processor and justify the purchase on the basis that it's a new and bigger size at a price lower than the Pro Max. Tim Apple can then laugh all the way to the bank because he managed to sell those people another phone with the exact same processor.

I know many people already that will buy this. They all want the largest iPhone, but are put off by the Pro Max prices. I think the 14 Max will target these people and those having a Plus iPhones. It's no coincidence that Apple discontinued the 6 Plus and 7 Plus at the same time as well, nudging them to upgrade.

 

[Al Rukh]

Furthermore I believe 2021 was the “upgrade” year and I believed the 13s sold a lot. So technically we should expect lower recontract upgraders this year. It’ll be really interesting how Apple is gonna market the 14 really.
I have an inkling it will replace the 13, obviously, and the regular 14 costing the same as the 13 mini and the 14 Max costing the same as the regular 13.

 

[B_mark_R]

So if you want the newest "small" phone you could go with the 14 @$799 or 14 pro @1099, a $300 delta. If you want a big phone it'll be 14 max @ $899 or 14 pro max @ $1199, also a $300 delta.

 

[ian87w]

Furthermore I believe 2021 was the “upgrade” year and I believed the 13s sold a lot. So technically we should expect lower recontract upgraders this year. It’ll be really interesting how Apple is gonna market the 14 really.
I have an inkling it will replace the 13, obviously, and the regular 14 costing the same as the 13 mini and the 14 Max costing the same as the regular 13.

The star model will be the 14 Max, not the regular 14. The selling point is simply having the largest iPhone for less than $1000. And I also think Apple will increase the Pro prices, to make the 14 Max look more attractive. At $899, imo the 14 Max will sell like hotcakes, akin to the 6/6 Plus. There are pent up demand for having the largest iPhone without paying more than $1000 since the Xs Max.

 

[SmugMaverick]

Absolutely not. I have held onto my 7 plus waiting for the notch to go, and it will be gone in the 14 pros. In addition, there have been rumors of both screen based fingerprint reader and facial recognition which would give it the best of both worlds. Flush cameras are icing on the cake. I am looking forward to it.

The rumoured iPhone 4 design isn't happening this year unfortunately, only the display is changing.

Prosser was wrong again, nobody has called him out on it though and he's been very quiet on twitter.

Next year will most likely be the design change as Apple sticks to a 3 year cycle now.

6-6s-7 then X-Xs-11 and now 12-13-14

 

[Al Rukh]

The star model will be the 14 Max, not the regular 14. The selling point is simply having the largest iPhone for less than $1000. And I also think Apple will increase the Pro prices, to make the 14 Max look more attractive. At $899, imo the 14 Max will sell like hotcakes, akin to the 6/6 Plus. There are pent up demand for having the largest iPhone without paying more than $1000 since the Xs Max.

I don’t disagree with you. Selling a Max model iPhone for less than a $1000 could be the main marketing campaign. I believe the 14/14 Max will sell well but I’m not sure if it will sell as much as the 13s. There’s a great demand of a non-Pro, Max model and the 14 Max will be the star of the show but I’m just not sure if it will make those 13 owners to upgrade. There are a lot of 13 owners whenever I head outside here my country.

 

[ian87w]

I don’t disagree with you. Selling a Max model iPhone for less than a $1000 could be the main marketing campaign. I believe the 14/14 Max will sell well but I’m not sure if it will sell as much as the 13s. There’s a great demand of a non-Pro, Max model and the 14 Max will be the star of the show but I’m just not sure if it will make those 13 owners to upgrade. There are a lot of 13 owners whenever I head outside here my country.

I believe the 14 Max would target previous Plus iphone and Xs Max owners, those who clearly who wanted larger screen but have certain price sensitivity from upgrading to the Pro Max iphones. And I'm pretty sure some 12 and 13 owners would upgrade as well if they're interested in the larger screen. Larger screen have been shown to be huge selling point beyond technical specification as proven by the iphone 6 Plus.

We'll see. It's fun to speculate. I do have a feeling the 14 Max will be extremely popular, akin to the best selling iPhone 6/6 Plus

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I don’t disagree with you. Selling a Max model iPhone for less than a $1000 could be the main marketing campaign. I believe the 14/14 Max will sell well but I’m not sure if it will sell as much as the 13s. There’s a great demand of a non-Pro, Max model and the 14 Max will be the star of the show but I’m just not sure if it will make those 13 owners to upgrade. There are a lot of 13 owners whenever I head outside here my country.

I doubt owners of 13’s are the target market though. It’ll be people with 12’s and older who have come to the end of their 2 year contracts. The 13/13 Pro is still a very current iPhone.