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RebornProphet

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Stuttering is a non-issue. The complaints posted are trivial....micro-stutters? Really?

Yes, the stuttering during scrolling matters because it DETRACTS FROM THE USER EXPERIENCE. It didn't do it on iOS 8 or even iOS 7 on my 5s or iOS 8 on my 6. It's annoying as hell, the scrolling should be smooth. End of.
 
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It affects the user experience and the enjoyment of using the device. This isn't Android pre 2013, this is iOS. Just because you CAN scroll doesn't mean we should accept it not doing so smoothly.

It didn't do it on 8.4.1, it shouldn't do it on iOS 9, especially on newer devices.
But lag and related issues where there in 7.0 and 8.0 (along with worse issues) and got smoothed out with updates. No, issues shouldn't be there, but be reality is that they are, to one degree or another, in pretty much any software, and especially so with major new (X.0) versions. Again, it's not good, but it's not unusual or really unexpected and is just the reality of software.
 

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But lag and related issues where there in 7.0 and 8.0 (along with worse issues) and got smoothed out with updates. No, issues shouldn't be there, but be reality is that they are, to one degree or another, in pretty much any software, and especially so with major new (X.0) versions. Again, it's not good, but it's not unusual or really unexpected and is just the reality of software.

Oh I have no doubt that iOS 9, by the end of its lifespan will be superb in terms of UI fluidity. I remember how bad iOS 8.0 was on my 5s, which was superb on iOS 7.1.4.

It took iOS 8 time to mature into the OS it finally was, but my issue is that Apple release a .0 build with these issues to begin with.

It's a common theme and has been for the past few years that iOS is released pretty buggy/laggy/stuttery on devices other than the newest iPhone, and it takes Apple the best part of a year to make the OS it's very best on recent devices only to replace it with a new version, and the cycle begins again.

My only issue with iOS 9.1 (and 9.0.2) is the scroll stutter, which occurs randomly and in certain apps. iOS 9 should be smoother and more efficient due to Metal and its smaller footprint, so I'm optimistic about future updates. But that doesn't stop current issues being annoying when your old OS had none of them.
 

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Oh I have no doubt that iOS 9, by the end of its lifespan will be superb in terms of UI fluidity. I remember how bad iOS 8.0 was on my 5s, which was superb on iOS 7.1.4.

It took iOS 8 time to mature into the OS it finally was, but my issue is that Apple release a .0 build with these issues to begin with.

It's a common theme and has been for the past few years that iOS is released pretty buggy/laggy/stuttery on devices other than the newest iPhone, and it takes Apple the best part of a year to make the OS it's very best on recent devices only to replace it with a new version, and the cycle begins again.

My only issue with iOS 9.1 (and 9.0.2) is the scroll stutter, which occurs randomly and in certain apps. iOS 9 should be smoother and more efficient due to Metal and its smaller footprint, so I'm optimistic about future updates. But that doesn't stop current issues being annoying when your old OS had none of them.

In your opinion, is the performance "upgrade" will be significant? I believe 5s will be ironed out to almost perfection, but I doubt iPad Air (or Mini2/3) does. If you have one on possession, I think you'll understand what I mean.
 

Radon87000

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Okay, but it can be said that the 15 people claiming lag with the two people posting personal videos with one person not bothered by stutter against the millions of Idevices who are on iOS 9 are just noise in these hundreds of posts across three threads.

Additionally, I'd like to see proof it's across all iOS 9 devices; which is impossible to prove, but the hyperbole sounds good.

I have 3 iOS devices,the iPhone 6,the Air 2 and a iPad Mini 1 which is similar to your iPad 2 and the stutters exist on all 3 of them.If I had to pick I would say my iPad handles the OS the best yet the A8X still has occassional hitching and the damn thing has Macbook level performance.Iphone 6 experience is around average at best.Definitely not beating my Nexus 5 or 7 as it was doing so on 8.4.1.In fact on iOS 8 there wasnt any noticeable speed difference between my 6 and Air 2 but it seems to be widening

It's brutal on my iPhone 6, it's more noticeable when doing small swipes to go through lists, such as Recents in Phone or emails in Mail. Twitter and Tweetbot 4 are utterly unusable at present, I actually showed a work colleague it today by saying, "Scroll through some menus or lists" and he said, "What is up with that scrolling stutter"?

It's still present on 9.1 beta 5.

Its also there on WhatsApp and Facebook app.CC has the owrst of it
 

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Oh I have no doubt that iOS 9, by the end of its lifespan will be superb in terms of UI fluidity. I remember how bad iOS 8.0 was on my 5s, which was superb on iOS 7.1.4.

It took iOS 8 time to mature into the OS it finally was, but my issue is that Apple release a .0 build with these issues to begin with.

It's a common theme and has been for the past few years that iOS is released pretty buggy/laggy/stuttery on devices other than the newest iPhone, and it takes Apple the best part of a year to make the OS it's very best on recent devices only to replace it with a new version, and the cycle begins again.

My only issue with iOS 9.1 (and 9.0.2) is the scroll stutter, which occurs randomly and in certain apps. iOS 9 should be smoother and more efficient due to Metal and its smaller footprint, so I'm optimistic about future updates. But that doesn't stop current issues being annoying when your old OS had none of them.

The part I don't understand is the time and effort Apple puts into iOS 8.4.1 , release it in middle of August, just to abandon it a month later. Should consumer be happy with that kind of iOS cycle ?
 

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The part I don't understand is the time and effort Apple puts into iOS 8.4.1 , release it in middle of August, just to abandon it a month later. Should consumer be happy with that kind of iOS cycle ?
Abandon it how? Those who installed it can still use it if they wish.
 

cbautis2

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Especially on Facebook app, App switcher and app spotlight search settings page iOS 9 stutters on my 6s which is NOT acceptable. It reminds me of Lagdroid from my coworkers and I always tout to them the fluidity and stutter FREE experience of iOS!
 

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Abandon it how? Those who installed it can still use it if they wish.

Seriously?

It is abandoned, no longer being worked on for updates including security fixes, no longer being signed,etc.... Apple expects users with devices that can support iOS 9 to use iOS 9 so they can brag about fragmentation numbers at Apple events.

If I go buy a new iPad, most likely it has some version of iOS 8 on it (sealed new in box) other than 8.4.1, there is no way to put 8.4.1 on it.
 
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Seriously?

It is abandoned, no longer being worked on for updates including security fixes, no longer being signed,etc.... Apple expects users with devices that can support iOS 9 to use iOS 9 so they can brag about fragmentation numbers at Apple events.

If I go buy a new iPad, most likely it has some version of iOS 8 on it (sealed new in box) other than 8.4.1, there is no way to put 8.4.1 on it.
Yes, from that aspect of it, that's the case. That's how it's been with iOS since the beginning.
 

Vexxx

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My 6s+ has scrolling stutter which my 6+ with 8.4.1 did not have. If Apple has focus in battery life, these stutters may be here to stay.
 

cbautis2

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Try charging it and stuttering issues are greatly reduced. Apple really needs to optimize that Metal API...
 

stooovie

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On my Air 2, there are often stutters as long as 8 frames, and that's with disabled transparency! Yes, I have actually analyzed 60fps footage of the screen.
 

magicman32

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I scroll in full page swipes (bottom to top) so I don't notice it and isn't an issue for me. But scrolling in the manner that has been mentioned to replicate the problem I do see it. Again not an issue for me as I don't scroll like that but yes I see "micro stutter" on iP6 Plus 9.1 beta 5.

I still don't see or perceive this Notification Center frame dropping some talk about. It seems fine to me. But I'm not OCD like that.

If I have a stutter or frame drop annoyance it's most definitely coming in and out of the app switcher. Most notably when using Google Music. That really lags it to hell. Other than that I really have no major complaints.
 

Radon87000

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Log into Google News or a similar and scroll rapidly up and down a few pages at a time.
Stutter. Load display issues. Jumpy display.
iPad Mini 3 on 9.0.2
Play NewsStand has horrible stutter but I found clearing its cache helps at times
 

JohnApples

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Updated to 9.1. Seems smoother for most things... except Quick Reply. Stuttering is absolutely awful. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be really annoying (2-3 times a day).

When I say it's awful, I mean it. The frame rate drops below 1fps. Seriously. I cannot do anything until the animation completes either, phone is completely unresponsive unless I lock/unlock it, or wait for the minute-long animation to finish. Is anyone else here having this problem?
 

cbautis2

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It stutters on the current, most powerful iDevice (iPhone 6s) but not as bad as 1 FPS. More like 20 FPS to me when stuttering.
 
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