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teknikal90

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I did a reset and ran into the stutter on a fresh 6 plus and Mini 3 both with only default apps installed. Stutter was Safari. At the time, Task Manager had been emptied.
  • 6+ - Safari - serious stutter on long pages, had one tab (CNN) just fail and close during testing.
  • i3 - Safari - serious stutter on long pages, had some tabs reload, other tabs crashed.
Keep in mind, except for the stutter, the overall performance in Safari was an improvement over 8.4.1.
in what way?
 

pacorob

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I have no stutter when scrolling in e.g. Settings or Last calls with below two devices.

I really hope that the stuttering/lag with showing the 3rd party keyboard will be resolved. I already discussed this matter with Swype and Path Input. Swype already responded and we tried quite a few things (remove the app, set full access on/off and other things). The result:

iPhone 5s on iOS9.02 - only lag/stuttering when showing Swype or other 3rd party keyboards with Spotlight search (not anywhere else

ipad mini2 on iOS9.02 - only lag/stuttering when showing Swype or other 3rd party keyboards with Spotlight search but also with e.g. Safari or other Apple apps and 3rd party apps.
 

ricardoriquier

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I bought an ipad mini 2 last month and barely used 8.4, as I decided to try ios9 beta. I immediately noticed the slow frame rate when switching apps. But that's it. I don't notice any lag or stutter when scrolling or whatever. Only when switching apps, which is annoying enough to make me enable the 'reduce transparency' option. Now my home menu looks like a badly rendered iOS but all the rest's fine. Shouldn't Apple address this ASAP? I'm using beta 4 of ios 9.1. Hopefully they'll sort it when they release the golden master?
 

pacorob

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Just a quick question: besides posting here, you guys are reporting your lags/stutters/bugs at http://bugreport.apple.com right?

I filed it via the Feedback app since i upgraded to 9.1 beta 4 (i know 5 is just available). The stutter is still there with 3rd party keyboards in Spotlight search on my 5s. Overall the whole iOS does seem to work fine and quick.
 
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dark_knight177

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Okay, let me say this, I have a pretty big family, myself, my wife, brother, sister and my mother all own different versions of iPhone 6. Myself, my wife and my sister own iPhone 6 plus, while the rest are regular sized iPhone 6.

I upgraded all of them to iOS 9, as soon as it came out and all our iPhones have become extremely laggy.
There's frame-drops when I pull down spotlight search, when scrolling through apps. Also launching apps takes noticeably longer. Screen rotation is also extremely slow.
This is present on all iPhones that my family owns.

Now, having said that, my mother and my wife doesn't notice any difference in performance. To them it seems like it's just as fluid as iOS 8.4.1.

It seems like some people can't tell the difference between 60fps or 12fps and etc. It's just like there's variation in people's vision, there's also variation in people being able to perceive frame rates.

I have always thought of Apple as a company who takes great pride in paying attention to small details. In this case, iOS 9, makes all our iPhones run like Android. I just can't believe someone at Apple said "That's good enough, let's release this laggy OS to public".
 
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theyearof84

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Jul 11, 2008
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I think it needs to have as many threads as anything else. I think it's time to stop marginalizing an issue that so clearly is categorized under "performance" or lack thereof.

There is always room to be constructive on topics that are affecting more than one person.

As a reiteration I have a 6+ that also suffers greatly from being on iOS 9.0.2. I've been patiently watching the betas roll out for 9.1 hoping that one of them will bring the supposed claims of "smoother" and "faster" to fruition.
 

dark_knight177

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I think it needs to have as many threads as anything else. I think it's time to stop marginalizing an issue that so clearly is categorized under "performance" or lack thereof.

There is always room to be constructive on topics that are affecting more than one person.

As a reiteration I have a 6+ that also suffers greatly from being on iOS 9.0.2. I've been patiently watching the betas roll out for 9.1 hoping that one of them will bring the supposed claims of "smoother" and "faster" to fruition.

I believe the claim that "Metal makes your iPhone faster" is the biggest lie of 2015.
Now, I am finally starting to understand how reality distortion field really works, especially after Metal and iPad Pro launch.
 

C DM

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I believe the claim that "Metal makes your iPhone faster" is the biggest lie of 2015.
Now, I am finally starting to understand how reality distortion field really works, especially after Metal and iPad Pro launch.
And we already have a few established recent and ongoing threads discussing both lag and Metal where all of this has already been rehashed more than a few times.
 

Yun0

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"why some notice it more than others" aka "we" aka those without issues, dont notice it, right? cause we're probably lying/trolling/whatever etc, right?

ya..no, just, just no.

we dont need another one of these threads
 

maxsix

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It's quite simply really... just like the morons that drive on wheels so out of balance you can see the tire bouncing down the road on the car beside you.

Many people just aren't aware, and some just don't care. They have a very high tolerance for issues. Often the masters of denial it just does't matter to them. Life is bliss :D
 
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Radon87000

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"why some notice it more than others" aka "we" aka those without issues, dont notice it, right? cause we're probably lying/trolling/whatever etc, right?

ya..no, just, just no.

we dont need another one of these threads
It's a fact that it's happening,It's also a fact that most stutters are eliminated on the 6S.
 

dark_knight177

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It's a fact that it's happening, but not on every idevice for every user.

It's happening on MOST devices. I have 5 iPhone 6s in my family and all of them lag horribly.
You can't possibly think that all 5 are lemons. Especially considering that all display models of iPhone 6 at my local Apple Store lag just the same.

More than likely some people simply don't care or can't perceive the difference in frame-rates due to their biological differences in FPS perception. Those are the people who claim that we are making this up, they simply can't tell the difference. Just like some people can't tell the difference when the wheels on their cars are horribly out of balance.
 
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I7guy

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Gotta be in it to win it
It's happening on MOST devices. I have 5 iPhone 6s in my family and all of them lag horribly.
You can't possibly think that all 5 are lemons. Especially considering that all display models of iPhone 6 at my local Apple Store lag just the same.

More than likely some people simply don't care or can't perceive the difference in frame-rates due to their biological differences in FPS perception. Those are the people who claim that we are making this up, they simply can't tell the difference. Just like some people can't tell the difference when the wheels on their cars are horribly out of balance.
Basically some opinion couched as fact. I'm going to phrase it this way, even my 6s stutters, but only in the recents screen. There might be one or two out of the way places on the 5s that stutters, but on the whole the phone is smooth for me and my two 5s in my house. The other side of your analogy is people imagining things that aren't there. Most likely some middle ground.
 

Goaliegeek

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Apr 13, 2009
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My 6+ last night decided to pretend to be a 3GS or something. It seems to be getting worse lately. I have forced quit all apps and have had to do hard resets multiple times this month. I tap an app and it takes 2-3 seconds to open. Control center stopped half way up and then 5 seconds later popped up. I really hope 9.1 fixes everything.
 

JT2002TJ

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Basically some opinion couched as fact. I'm going to phrase it this way, even my 6s stutters, but only in the recents screen. There might be one or two out of the way places on the 5s that stutters, but on the whole the phone is smooth for me and my two 5s in my house. The other side of your analogy is people imagining things that aren't there. Most likely some middle ground.

Simple solution... Post some videos of your 6s running smoothly. Would love to see this. Now, I do believe that on the 6s/6+s it is less laggy vs all other previous models, but please post up some videos, including your running faster/better than 8.4.1 ipad.

Thanks
 

I7guy

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Simple solution... Post some videos of your 6s running smoothly. Would love to see this. Now, I do believe that on the 6s/6+s it is less laggy vs all other previous models, but please post up some videos, including your running faster/better than 8.4.1 ipad.

Thanks
You going to challenge everybody that states their phones run ok? Way too much work for so little payback; especially in this thread.

However, if someone posts a video of their 6s running laggy in the general places, not in any third party app...I'll do the same; excluding recents.
 

JT2002TJ

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You going to challenge everybody that states their phones run ok? Way too much work for so little payback; especially in this thread.

However, if someone posts a video of their 6s running laggy in the general places, not in any third party app...I'll do the same; excluding recents.

No. Just you (the other post was also directed toward you without quoting you). You have been saying all your devices (and your families) are running smoothly in several posts where there is an overwhelming list of people listing problems. It would be helpful if we can see this. It would take you less time than all of your posts, and everyone else, including myself would have to sit back and eat our words. I would be very happy to say "I was wrong, I am sorry" to you, and I will as soon as you post a video. Please post a short video of unlocking, opening and closing apps, opening email, going into siri suggestions, and notifications on any device other than your 6s.

Thanks
 

dark_knight177

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You going to challenge everybody that states their phones run ok? Way too much work for so little payback; especially in this thread.
Then why are you in this thread, challenging everybody who has issues with lag? Isn't it too much work by itself?
Why defend apple? Can't you just believe that many people have lag?
Why try to refute and challenge every post in this thread? Isn't this too much work by itself?
 

JT2002TJ

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Then why are you in this thread, challenging everybody who has issues with lag? Isn't it too much work by itself?
Why defend apple? Can't you just believe that many people have lag?
Why try to refute and challenge every post in this thread? Isn't this too much work by itself?

Ding ding ding...
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Then why are you in this thread, challenging everybody who has issues with lag? Isn't it too much work by itself?
Why defend apple? Can't you just believe that many people have lag?
Why try to refute and challenge every post in this thread? Isn't this too much work by itself?
Can you believe that many people don't have it, at least not necessarily to the same degree that some others might have it?
 

JT2002TJ

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Can you believe that many people don't have it, at least not necessarily to the same degree that some others might have it?

We ALL can agree that some people might have issues and some might not. But both you and I7guy have been going into threads where the entire point of the discussion is to point out issues people are having and discuss those issues. For example, look at the title of this thread, if you aren't a simple "No, I am not having issues" is enough. But if you (not you in particular) take the time to contradict every one else, it gets to the point that we would like see proof.
 
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