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mcapanelli

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Well, I should've known better. Haha.

I was hoping it wouldn't devolve into iOS vs Android **** talking but that's what happened. Anyone that can't admit that both OS have their merits is fooling themselves. iOS has been very smooth and the battery life has been great. But at the same time, it's a relatively boring device with limited features and capabilities.

Android does a lot, albeit it doesn't do everything well. iOS doesn't do as much, but what it can do it does very, very well.

Now you know, a dog will hunt, and a fan boy will fan boy.
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Android does a lot, albeit it doesn't do everything well. iOS doesn't do as much, but what it can do it does very, very well.

THIS^^^^^ That sums it all up as succinctly as possible.
 

DADDYDC650

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Now you know, a dog will hunt, and a fan boy will fan boy.
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THIS^^^^^ That sums it all up as succinctly as possible.
So You are saying the Note 7 can't browse the internet, make phone calls and text very well? Not sure what the iPhone does very well over the Note 7. Perhaps run benchmarks better?
 

DADDYDC650

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Who said that? Are you reading the same thread?
You agreed with someone saying the iPhone doesn't do everything the Note 7 does but what it does do, it does very, very well. What I'm asking is, what does the iPhone 7 do VERY well that the Note 7 doesn't do?
 

normanfox

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don't listen to negative folks on this forum you have to remember were your at. this is an apple forum after all. so buy what you think is best. i did return my ip7 and i am waiting for my note7. im not going to say negative things about the iphone because it is a great. but i will say that the iphone just ins't for me. and you may just as well be in the same boat as me. look at it this way. thier is nothing that the iphone can do that the note7 can't do. but you cannot say that in reveres. because there is a ton of things the note7 can that iphone can't.


so true.... but when iphone does things, it does better: smooth, battery efficient, polished (app), no memory leak, accurate (touch ID), etc.

disclaimer: I don't have Galaxy phones but I have Android devices: Shield, Nexus player.
 
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Thor_1

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I have used android tablets and they are so slow and difficult to use compared to the iPad. I can't see the phones being any better.
 
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mcapanelli

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I see what's going on........


Android does a lot, albeit it doesn't do everything well. iOS doesn't do as much, but what it can do it does very, very well.

Thats what I was quoting.
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You agreed with someone saying the iPhone doesn't do everything the Note 7 does but what it does do, it does very, very well. What I'm asking is, what does the iPhone 7 do VERY well that the Note 7 doesn't do?

I think maybe you have a comprehension problem. What that means is, you can do more with a note 7, but it gets buggy. You can't do as much on an iPhone, but it tends to have less software bugs. Is that bad or are we fanboying?
 
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Awesomesince86

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You agreed with someone saying the iPhone doesn't do everything the Note 7 does but what it does do, it does very, very well. What I'm asking is, what does the iPhone 7 do VERY well that the Note 7 doesn't do?

First let me say I've used far more android devices than iOS. I owned the very first android device and I've built my own ROMs on android...granted that was back in my college days.

iPhone does memory and battery management much better than android. It also provides a more uniform platform for developers, hence the apps being generally better on iPhones. It also handles messaging much better, something android has struggled with for years with half baked ideas such as hangouts and now Allo.
 

DADDYDC650

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I see what's going on........




Thats what I was quoting.
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I think maybe you have a comprehension problem. What that means is, you can do more with a note 7, but it gets buggy. You can't do as much on an iPhone, but it tends to have less software bugs. Is that bad or are we fanboying?
Since you don't own an Note 7 it's pretty bad. You are basically speaking out your you know what.
 

Hogg

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I've been Android loyal since day 1 of Android. I've also had an iPad3 since the day it came out, to get my Apple fix. The main reason I've always been Android for my phones, is the open file system, rooting and customization. And ease of use as far as some really simple things that Apple makes incredibly difficult sometimes. Like simply transferring a file to and from a PC.

In the last 6 months, I've had the S7 edge, Note 7 and now the Note 5. My black 7+ will be in my hands this week. I'll be sad to see the openness of Android go bye bye, but I'm also looking forward to the polished continuity of iOS. Plus, I have about 200 paid apps from my iPad, many of which I can use on my iPhone. So that's nice.

I'm very disappointed in the direction Samsung is headed, with the total gimmick that is the edge display. It serves zero purpose and actually hinders the user experience. I measured my Note 7's usable screen width...and it was just a little wider than my old S4, and way less than my Note 5. No good. Plus, you have warped text and images that bend over the side, glare on each apex...and it doesn't hold up well in drop tests etc etc. There's a reason why you don't see any TV's or monitors, that bend away from you. It makes no sense.

Anyhoot ;)

Looking forward to the 7 plus. Change is good. I'm sure I'll try out a few Android devices next year, before the Anniversary iPhone.

We live in the golden age of tech, that's for sure. It's nice when you're not tied down to one brand.
 
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normanfox

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There's your problem. Old and slow Android devices.

forgot to be specific. I have Shield TV which is 4k capable and is much faster than ATV4. it is not the performance that I complain about. Android app is unpolished. The same Plex app on ATV4 is so polished compared to Plex client app on android.

navigation on android TV is old fashion and a hassle. Rev/FF is still based on each click 2x, 4x etc. I prefer to use ATV4 as streaming client and use the Shield as Plex server for decoding.
 
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BullittMustang

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I have one day left with my iPhone 7 plus before my 14 return period is up. While I've enjoyed the device, I'm thinking about returning it and going back to Android. Everything on the iPhone works well, it's just a bit boring and doesn't wow me like a new phone should. I got to try a Note 7 display today and it was excellent. The form factor, screen, and build quality blew me away. Touchwiz is definitely better than it used to be and everything was smooth while I used it.

Anyway, just curious if anyone else is going back to Android. Let's try not to turn this into an Android vs IOS debate.

I have both the galaxy s7 edge and the iPhone 7plus. They are both very good devices. iPhone is my daily driver. It is fast, reliable, iMessage is great, and has an incredible battery. However, there are times when I get bored and use the s7 edge for a few days. The screen and camera on the Samsung are unmatched in my opinion, wireless charging is great.

If had had to choose only one, I would not hesitate to pick the iPhone.
 
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normanfox

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I've been Android loyal since day 1 of Android. I've also had an iPad3 since the day it came out, to get my Apple fix. The main reason I've always been Android for my phones, is the open file system, rooting and customization.

I'm very disappointed in the direction Samsung is headed, with the total gimmick that is the edge display. It serves zero purpose and actually hinders the user experience. I measured my Note 7's usable screen width...and it was just a little wider than my old S4, and way less than my Note 5. No good. Plus, you have warped text and images that bend over the side, glare on each apex...and it doesn't hold up well in drop tests etc etc. There's a reason why you don't see any TV's or monitors, that bend away from you. It makes no sense.

Anyhoot ;)

Looking forward to the 7 plus. Change is good. I'm sure I'll try out a few Android devices next year, before the Anniversary iPhone.

We live in the golden age of tech, that's for sure. It's nice when you're not tied down to one brand.

This.... gimmick just like their curve TV. Samsung just throws a bunch of features out and sees what sticks. on the other hand, Apple only releases features when they are close to perfection. of course they made some mistakes but mostly they don't release features just for the heck of competition. the same to app on app store vs app on Google app store.

there is a reason why people are willing to line up for days waiting on release day for new iphone. it is not just marketing machine like some people claim.
 
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DADDYDC650

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I've been Android loyal since day 1 of Android. I've also had an iPad3 since the day it came out, to get my Apple fix. The main reason I've always been Android for my phones, is the open file system, rooting and customization. And ease of use as far as some really simple things that Apple makes incredibly difficult sometimes. Like simply transferring a file to and from a PC.

In the last 6 months, I've had the S7 edge, Note 7 and now the Note 5. My black 7+ will be in my hands this week. I'll be sad to see the openness of Android go bye bye, but I'm also looking forward to the polished continuity of iOS. Plus, I have about 200 paid apps from my iPad, many of which I can use on my iPhone. So that's nice.

I'm very disappointed in the direction Samsung is headed, with the total gimmick that is the edge display. It serves zero purpose and actually hinders the user experience. I measured my Note 7's usable screen width...and it was just a little wider than my old S4, and way less than my Note 5. No good. Plus, you have warped text and images that bend over the side, glare on each apex...and it doesn't hold up well in drop tests etc etc. There's a reason why you don't see any TV's or monitors, that bend away from you. It makes no sense.

Anyhoot ;)

Looking forward to the 7 plus. Change is good. I'm sure I'll try out a few Android devices next year, before the Anniversary iPhone.

We live in the golden age of tech, that's for sure. It's nice when you're not tied down to one brand.
Note 7 has a bigger display than the iPhone 7+ so I guess you'll be dissapointed. The Edges are plenty usable.
I like the Edge display and use it all the time to bring up apps and texts when browsing the net or watching videos. Sucks that you haven't found a use for it.

iPhone 7 Plus on the left and Note 7 on the right. Hard to see warping because of the curves and it's really not as bad as you are making it seem. Not everyone will like it since we aren't all equal so I can see where you are coming from.

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Complex757

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I have one day left with my iPhone 7 plus before my 14 return period is up. While I've enjoyed the device, I'm thinking about returning it and going back to Android. Everything on the iPhone works well, it's just a bit boring and doesn't wow me like a new phone should. I got to try a Note 7 display today and it was excellent. The form factor, screen, and build quality blew me away. Touchwiz is definitely better than it used to be and everything was smooth while I used it.

Anyway, just curious if anyone else is going back to Android. Let's try not to turn this into an Android vs IOS debate.

This pretty much sums it up. Both have their advantages. I've always had both.

I have a Note 7 while waiting for my 7+.

What iOS does it does well.
Androids ability to be customized is also not understated. If you don't like something, you can change it. If you don't like the way Touchwiz looks(which I don't) you can use a launcher or theme. If you used a Android phone four years ago, you really don't know what it's like now.

Touchwiz is better than it used to be, but Samsung is still slow and not good with the updates. I disable all the carrier and Samsung bloatware.

IMO iOS is like a Lexus and Android a Mustang. It depends on your preference as a person.
 

phoneme

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This.... gimmick just like their curve TV. Samsung just throws a bunch of features out and sees what sticks. on the other hand, Apple only releases features when they are close to perfection. of course they made some mistakes but mostly they don't release features just for the heck of competition. the same to app on app store vs app on Google app store.

there is a reason why people are willing to line up for days waiting on release day for new iphone. it is not just marketing machine like some people claim.

yea right all gimmick
the phabet was a gimmick
wireless charging is a gimmick
fast wireless chg is a gimmick
oled screen is gimmick
etc..etc..etc... the list goes on and on... it's all a gimmick until apple starts putting it in there phones. then all the fanboys are like wow it's magical, it's innovative, it's a game changer lol... you guys crack me up. i can always pop in here and get a good laugh. fact is no one was waiting in line were i live for an iphone7 and fact is. i can probally get an iphone7 here were i live but i can't get the note7.
 

Moi Ici

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First let me say I've used far more android devices than iOS. I owned the very first android device and I've built my own ROMs on android...granted that was back in my college days.

iPhone does memory and battery management much better than android. It also provides a more uniform platform for developers, hence the apps being generally better on iPhones. It also handles messaging much better, something android has struggled with for years with half baked ideas such as hangouts and now Allo.
I think you've just answered your original question....
 
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got556

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Save some money, buy a Nexus 6P and enjoy the best of both worlds. That's what I do. When I get bored with one and I switch back to the other.
 
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normanfox

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yea right all gimmick
the phabet was a gimmick
wireless charging is a gimmick
fast wireless chg is a gimmick
oled screen is gimmick
etc..etc..etc... the list goes on and on... it's all a gimmick until apple starts putting it in there phones. then all the fanboys are like wow it's magical, it's innovative, it's a game changer lol... you guys crack me up. i can always pop in here and get a good laugh. fact is no one was waiting in line were i live for an iphone7 and fact is. i can probally get an iphone7 here were i live but i can't get the note7.


Apple released a statement before release date that there would be no iphone Plus available for walk-in because it was sold out.

and you can't get Note 7 because it is an explosive device and not allowed on airplane.
 

thelookingglass

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I have them both and the biggest factor for me is the operating system, speed and fluidity. The iPhone 7+ is faster at browsing the web, opening apps and generally much more fluid. Battery life is also much better on the iPhone. Design, screen and slight camera advantage to the N7.

Yep. This exactly. There's a reason I went back to an iPhone after using the newest Samsungs. The hardware on Samsungs is incredible but the overall experience just isn't as polished. It's really the little things, but it's enough of a hindrance in my daily usage that using an iPhone was just the smarter choice.
 

lordofthereef

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Apple released a statement before release date that there would be no iphone Plus available for walk-in because it was sold out.

and you can't get Note 7 because it is an explosive device and not allowed on airplane.
This doesn't change the fact that there weren't lines for the 7 either. I checked out an Apple Store on launch day about thirty minutes after they opened because I wanted a Watch. It was less busy than it is on the average afternoon or weekend. I was amazed. Of course this is anecdotal.

As far as the note 7, isn't it recalled? I know they are replacing phones but I imagine that is an enormous undertaking. So those who paid for their phone once and had to send it back would be getting their order fulfilled first I would think. Very few people are likely basing their buying decision on whether the phone can be taken on a plane. And if they were, wouldn't that mean there would be tons of stock nobody wants?

Long story short this isn't really a comparable situation.
 

Thor_1

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yea right all gimmick
the phabet was a gimmick
wireless charging is a gimmick
fast wireless chg is a gimmick
oled screen is gimmick
etc..etc..etc... the list goes on and on... it's all a gimmick until apple starts putting it in there phones. then all the fanboys are like wow it's magical, it's innovative, it's a game changer lol... you guys crack me up. i can always pop in here and get a good laugh. fact is no one was waiting in line were i live for an iphone7 and fact is. i can probally get an iphone7 here were i live but i can't get the note7.

No, there are very few iPhone 7/7+ available right now. The Apple Store may have a few, the carrier stores have none. I ordered a 7+ for my wife and it's on back order till mid December.

Why come here with no intention of helping people? Some people like Apple, some like android. Get over it.
 
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Love Divine

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After owning a note 7 for a little while before it was recalled, I can very confidently say that the iPhone provides just an all-around better experience, at least for me.

Note 7 Pros:
- Better screen
- Better rear camera
- customizable (had mine looking way different than stock the day I got it, with faster animations, a tighter icon grid, etc)
- Water resistant

iPhone 6s Pros:
- Much faster, and it wasn't close. Smoother experience by far.
- Better apps: this is a big deal. Big name apps with thousands of daily users and millions of total downloads are much better on iOS. Android versions are much slower, worse/missing animations, lower quality assets, several versions behind etc. It was very rare that the Android counterpart was better. Anyone going back and fourth between the two OS is going to notice this easily.Frequent app crashes within the first days of the Note 7, an exceedingly rare experience on iOS.
- Better speakers (shower music, alarm clock).
- preferred the front facing photos on the 6S.
- Clearly better battery life. Note 7 charged faster, but only if the screen is off and the 6S plus charged plenty fast with an iPad charger.
- No bloat ware
- Fast, updates with long support. When is the Note 7 getting Nougat? Anybody's guess. And it'll be Touchwizd when it finally gets here likely early next year.
- clearly better fingerprint recognition.

The 7 Plus takes the above advantages and runs with it. Closes the camera gap, has an even better front facer, louder speakers, and water resistance of its own. You can tell Apple payed attention to the cohesiveness between the hardware and software, and it shows in the smoothness and usability in everyday use. Touchwiz is bloated, incoherent and slow in comparison, regardless of how much it has improved. The jank is still very real and anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.
 

Mxbzz

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After owning a note 7 for a little while before it was recalled, I can very confidently say that the iPhone provides just an all-around better experience, at least for me.

Note 7 Pros:
- Better screen
- Better rear camera
- customizable (had mine looking way different than stock the day I got it, with faster animations, a tighter icon grid, etc)
- Water resistant

iPhone 6s Pros:
- Much faster, and it wasn't close. Smoother experience by far.
- Better apps: this is a big deal. Big name apps with thousands of daily users and millions of total downloads are much better on iOS. Android versions are much slower, worse/missing animations, lower quality assets, several versions behind etc. It was very rare that the Android counterpart was better. Anyone going back and fourth between the two OS is going to notice this easily.Frequent app crashes within the first days of the Note 7, an exceedingly rare experience on iOS.
- Better speakers (shower music, alarm clock).
- preferred the front facing photos on the 6S.
- Clearly better battery life. Note 7 charged faster, but only if the screen is off and the 6S plus charged plenty fast with an iPad charger.
- No bloat ware
- Fast, updates with long support. When is the Note 7 getting Nougat? Anybody's guess. And it'll be Touchwizd when it finally gets here likely early next year.
- clearly better fingerprint recognition.

The 7 Plus takes the above advantages and runs with it. Closes the camera gap, has an even better front facer, louder speakers, and water resistance of its own. You can tell Apple payed attention to the cohesiveness between the hardware and software, and it shows in the smoothness and usability in everyday use. Touchwiz is bloated, incoherent and slow in comparison, regardless of how much it has improved. The jank is still very real and anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention the S-Pen at all-- curious, what made you choose trying the Note 7 over the S7 Edge?
Also, I'd have to agree to disagree on the app crashes between both OSes. I'm rocking a 6S and S7 Edge right now, and I can't say one is more reliable than the other. They're both fairly consistent, but with Android it is more obvious when an app has crashed as opposed to iOS where the app just hangs or closes itself.
 
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