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normanfox

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After owning a note 7 for a little while before it was recalled, I can very confidently say that the iPhone provides just an all-around better experience, at least for me.

Note 7 Pros:
- Better screen
- Better rear camera
- customizable (had mine looking way different than stock the day I got it, with faster animations, a tighter icon grid, etc)
- Water resistant

iPhone 6s Pros:
- Much faster, and it wasn't close. Smoother experience by far.
- Better apps: this is a big deal. Big name apps with thousands of daily users and millions of total downloads are much better on iOS. Android versions are much slower, worse/missing animations, lower quality assets, several versions behind etc. It was very rare that the Android counterpart was better. Anyone going back and fourth between the two OS is going to notice this easily.Frequent app crashes within the first days of the Note 7, an exceedingly rare experience on iOS.
- Better speakers (shower music, alarm clock).
- preferred the front facing photos on the 6S.
- Clearly better battery life. Note 7 charged faster, but only if the screen is off and the 6S plus charged plenty fast with an iPad charger.
- No bloat ware
- Fast, updates with long support. When is the Note 7 getting Nougat? Anybody's guess. And it'll be Touchwizd when it finally gets here likely early next year.
- clearly better fingerprint recognition.

The 7 Plus takes the above advantages and runs with it. Closes the camera gap, has an even better front facer, louder speakers, and water resistance of its own. You can tell Apple payed attention to the cohesiveness between the hardware and software, and it shows in the smoothness and usability in everyday use. Touchwiz is bloated, incoherent and slow in comparison, regardless of how much it has improved. The jank is still very real and anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

I posted a couple times to people, who kept saying Android can do as much as iphone and more, that iphone does less things but it does better.

your actual experience echoes the same. that is why people are crazy about iphone, not because of marketing machine or hype that some people claim.
 

Love Divine

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I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention the S-Pen at all-- curious, what made you choose trying the Note 7 over the S7 Edge?
Also, I'd have to agree to disagree on the app crashes between both OSes. I'm rocking a 6S and S7 Edge right now, and I can't say one is more reliable than the other. They're both fairly consistent, but with Android it is more obvious when an app has crashed as opposed to iOS where the app just hangs or closes itself.

The Note 7 was newer. It has a more refined design - rounded edges and a more sensical degree of curve to the screen. The better battery life of the Edge is compelling though. Overall, the S-pen was mostly a non factor. Tried to make myself use it but it was just never something I found myself taking out. Biggest thing was probably snapchat doodling lol. Speaking of Snapchat, way better app on iOS, to the point where I'm wondering how the Devs let the inconsistency in quality even fly.
 
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Awesomesince86

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Save some money, buy a Nexus 6P and enjoy the best of both worlds. That's what I do. When I get bored with one and I switch back to the other.

I already have a Nexus 6p. It's a very good device but not a top of the line device by any means. Decent build quality and pure android but the camera is slow and average quality and battery life is only ok.
 
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redman042

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It's 20-freaking-16 and I expect my phone to perform fast and as smooth as butter. The iPhone delivers. Android doesn't. The iPhone is also very capable. End of story for me.
 

shansoft

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After owning a note 7 for a little while before it was recalled, I can very confidently say that the iPhone provides just an all-around better experience, at least for me.

Note 7 Pros:
- Better screen
- Better rear camera
- customizable (had mine looking way different than stock the day I got it, with faster animations, a tighter icon grid, etc)
- Water resistant

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Samsung does not provide a better camera.
They often produced over sharpened detail that caused detail loose and over saturated colors that is completely off from original. There are also focusing and image stabilization problems.
I know some people don't like photo editing and like saturated color out of box, but that doesn't mean its a better camera. It's actually much worse.

It's a common misconception that Samsung provides a better camera, that is just because average people look at the photo on their phone and expect colorful image, and never bother to zoom in to look at real detail.

The camera that provide the best image quality is HTC 10 under manual control, but iPhone 7 provides the best camera from point to shoot experience.
 
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Scarphac3

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I had the note 7 previous to my 7+ and I could not stand the lag. It started off fine for about the first week but after that it was unbearable. I disabled all the bloatware with Package Disabler Pro but it didnt make enough of a difference. Also, most of the apps I use are more polished on iOS. I switch back and forth between iOS and Android all the time. Samsung makes some gorgeous hardware and they do some cool things with software but the smoothness of iOS is unmatched.

I might give the Pixel XL a shot once it releases but as of now I cant see myself going back to Android anytime soon unless it's the Pixel/Nexus brand.
 
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I'm too tired to post anything that's going to lock me into an argument with anyone. I'll just present the facts of my situation. I'm not returning an iPhone for an Android but my happiness with my Note 7, even through the recall process, has caused me to not rush to upgrade to an IPhone 7 as would normally have been my inclination in years past, especially now that OIS has come to the smaller iPhone. The lack of a headphone jack did give me pause for thought. It will be an annoyance if I do decide to trade my 6sPlus in for an iPhone 7. I'll live. ;)

It's easy to go for the cheap jokes about explosions and all, but the fact is that I'm very happy with my Note 7. I've not experienced any undue lag. I did try an LG G5 this evening that exhibited substantial lag so I can understand complaints made about android devices and lag.

The concern about Note 7 being prohibited from flights is a legitimate one. I'll fly with my iPhones.

My second Note 7 and my loaner S7 had very fast and reliable fingerprint sensors. My first Note 7 had a terrible fingerprint sensor.

When I send photos taken on my Note 7 to view them on my iPhone 6S Plus the colors look very comparable to the ones taken on my 6S Plus. The appearance of over saturation seems to be more a function of the Samsung display than the camera itself. The camera does over sharpen pictures. This does not bother me but it may bother some people. My chief complaint about all iPhone photos is the tendency of their photos toward looking like they're afflicted with a watercolor painting effect if the light is insufficient. My chief complaint about Samsung cameras I've used is that in dim light they can fail to focus on a moving subject as well as my iPhone cameras can. I prefer the stereo audio recording capability of my Note 7. As far as I know all IPhones lack this capability.

I loved my iPhone SE but am a bit annoyed at some aspects of iOS 10 on it. The iPhone 7 and 7 Plus are fine looking phones and appear to be solid upgrades if you can find one without any of the glitches and problems and build quality issues that are plaguing some of our fellow forum members. The iPhone 7 has been readily available in most of the colors at my local Best Buy and my AT&T store for about two weeks. Jet Black seems to have recently become available. My local Apple Store is closed for remodeling.

That's my rundown on it. I'm not emotionally involved either way. I go with whatever serves my needs at a given moment. My SE rules over all because it fits in most of my pockets and travels easily due to its size and that is very important to me in a communications device. My Note 7 is the best and most versatile pocket computer I have ever owned.
 

VesselA

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So You are saying the Note 7 can't browse the internet, make phone calls and text very well? Not sure what the iPhone does very well over the Note 7. Perhaps run benchmarks better?

Yep, the problem with android/Samsung devices is they can't browse the internet well, or run most apps well and consistently. This is a combination of android, additional lag from touchwiz and apps in the android store not being well optimised. It's not just how poorly they run it's how inconsistent and badly optimised for the display size, especially the notes. You have to really sit back and think why the android experience is so bad, and it's a combination of those things, plus little things like strange basic fonts, the experience is so disjointed. Here is a test for you, download the flash browsers dolphin and puffin, now try scrolling web pages on your note, then download them on an iPhone, any iPhone and see the difference. The iPhones will be silky smooth 60fps, the android will stutter and lag and the scrolling momentum will be all over the place and different between apps.
I have an s7 and a note 4, so I'm not biased I'm just seeing things as they are. In reality the note 7 is the note 4 with a new outer shell, Samsung eventually hired a decent industrial designer and committed to using more expensive materials (although now you can't replace the battery) I had the note 1,2 and still have the 4. I had to stop using the 4 because the speakers were so natively bad they literally hurt my ears when trying to listen to radio, and Samsung didn't offer cross-os graphic equaliser as they do on the s7. The pen is nice, but it's not really the size of screen for doing serious work, I realised the surface pro 4 & iPad Pro are much better options.

I like how Samsung are trying to do everything with the os to let you do everything, but I don't know if it is android or touchwiz, but the optimisation in apps is just so glitchy, laggy, inconsistent and poor. I have one of the latest, the s7, and the only browser that runs smooth is the native Samsung one, but even that has some annoying scrolling inconsistencies. One flick a little too much and you've just scrolled past a hundred lines and so on.

App optimisation is bad on android, they seem to have a lower bar and mor crap gets through, less things are optimised and designed well. This is in particular a problem with the notes as hardly any apps accommodate the 5.7 size, and that's also a problem with the iPhone pluses, very few apps updated or optimised for the screen real estate so things often look simply blown up, but at least the apps scroll smooth and aren't so glitchy and badly designed.

I began realising a mobile device is ideal at a comfortable size like the 4.7, perfect size I think, the notes and pluses are like putting bricks in your pocket and typing is not possible with one hand. Makes more sense to do art on a bigger canvas like a surface pro 4 or iPad pro
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You agreed with someone saying the iPhone doesn't do everything the Note 7 does but what it does do, it does very, very well. What I'm asking is, what does the iPhone 7 do VERY well that the Note 7 doesn't do?
Hold a very long battery charge and run all apps and user interface very smoothly and consistently.

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By the way from direct comparisons I would say the new iPhone 7 camera is better than the s7/note 7. The iPhone image is crisper in a natural way and the colours are more accurate and natural, Samsung oversaturated.
The display on the S7 is much sharper and the blacks deeper, but it's noticeably duller outside compared to the iPhone, until the horrendous neon mode kicks in on the Samsung in direct sunlight, which is ridiculous. iPhone has a more natural and brighter display, although they should have been increased in pixel density for the 7s.

Something that would have made me consider the note 7 is if it had been 6 inches with a 4K display, as this would have removed the "screen door effect" from VR. VR is a very cool feature of the Samsungs, its just a shame about the os and AppStore experience. Maybe tizen is the solution
 
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Shanghaichica

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What can the Note 7 actually do that the iPhone can't?

I have an Android and an iPhone and aside from downloading torrents etc. (legal ones of course) there's not much between them.
Fast charging
Wireless charging
File system
Expandable storage
Iris scanning

None of these are deal breakers for me, hence why I have the 7 plus.
 
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The Game 161

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Android is great for what you want it to do but performance and dependability means more than anything and you just can’t beat the iphone for this. Everything syncs perfectly with all my devices so don’t expect to return anytime soon even though I do like android and seeing people’s experiences.

resale value is huge

i'm getting £440 for my 6s plus today.
 

DADDYDC650

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Yep, the problem with android/Samsung devices is they can't browse the internet well, or run most apps well and consistently. This is a combination of android, additional lag from touchwiz and apps in the android store not being well optimised. It's not just how poorly they run it's how inconsistent and badly optimised for the display size, especially the notes. You have to really sit back and think why the android experience is so bad, and it's a combination of those things, plus little things like strange basic fonts, the experience is so disjointed. Here is a test for you, download the flash browsers dolphin and puffin, now try scrolling web pages on your note, then download them on an iPhone, any iPhone and see the difference. The iPhones will be silky smooth 60fps, the android will stutter and lag and the scrolling momentum will be all over the place and different between apps.
I have an s7 and a note 4, so I'm not biased I'm just seeing things as they are. In reality the note 7 is the note 4 with a new outer shell, Samsung eventually hired a decent industrial designer and committed to using more expensive materials (although now you can't replace the battery) I had the note 1,2 and still have the 4. I had to stop using the 4 because the speakers were so natively bad they literally hurt my ears when trying to listen to radio, and Samsung didn't offer cross-os graphic equaliser as they do on the s7. The pen is nice, but it's not really the size of screen for doing serious work, I realised the surface pro 4 & iPad Pro are much better options.

I like how Samsung are trying to do everything with the os to let you do everything, but I don't know if it is android or touchwiz, but the optimisation in apps is just so glitchy, laggy, inconsistent and poor. I have one of the latest, the s7, and the only browser that runs smooth is the native Samsung one, but even that has some annoying scrolling inconsistencies. One flick a little too much and you've just scrolled past a hundred lines and so on.

App optimisation is bad on android, they seem to have a lower bar and mor crap gets through, less things are optimised and designed well. This is in particular a problem with the notes as hardly any apps accommodate the 5.7 size, and that's also a problem with the iPhone pluses, very few apps updated or optimised for the screen real estate so things often look simply blown up, but at least the apps scroll smooth and aren't so glitchy and badly designed.

I began realising a mobile device is ideal at a comfortable size like the 4.7, perfect size I think, the notes and pluses are like putting bricks in your pocket and typing is not possible with one hand. Makes more sense to do art on a bigger canvas like a surface pro 4 or iPad pro
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Hold a very long battery charge and run all apps and user interface very smoothly and consistently.

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By the way from direct comparisons I would say the new iPhone 7 camera is better than the s7/note 7. The iPhone image is crisper in a natural way and the colours are more accurate and natural, Samsung oversaturated.
The display on the S7 is much sharper and the blacks deeper, but it's noticeably duller outside compared to the iPhone, until the horrendous neon mode kicks in on the Samsung in direct sunlight, which is ridiculous. iPhone has a more natural and brighter display, although they should have been increased in pixel density for the 7s.

Something that would have made me consider the note 7 is if it had been 6 inches with a 4K display, as this would have removed the "screen door effect" from VR. VR is a very cool feature of the Samsungs, its just a shame about the os and AppStore experience. Maybe tizen is the solution
Another person that's obviously never used a Note 7 but comments as if he/she has. The Note 7 is just a Note 4 you say? Wow... Spare me.
 
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Leo90

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I would NEVER leave iOS as I love the simplicity of the OS and I have several apps bought in it. But OP, if you want to leave iPhone it is alright, but I highly recommend you not to go to Samsung, it is a trap. Samsung customer service is not that great and touchwizz is horrendous! Besides, your phone wont get updates. If you are set to go for Android, just pick a Nexus or Oneplus, much cheaper than Samsung and better build quality
 
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TrueBlou

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Whatever makes *you* happy is what you should get. Asking for other people's advice will only really bring out their preferences and personal biases.

There's good and bad to be had on both sides of the fence, so whichever has the features and software you want and you think will be best suited to your use, get it, don't end up stuck with something you don't like and have to end up selling.

I've been there a few times in the past, albeit the other way round. I could never settle with Android for more than a few weeks before selling whichever device I had at the time and moving back to iPhone, just a monumental waste of time and money.
 

Mitsjke

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Going back from the 6S to the S7. Bothcphones are good. But the iPhone batterylife sucks. Need to charge this thing twice a day. While my old S5 lasted a full day. And the camera is not as good as the Samsungs. But gonna miss the appstore of iOS.
 

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Note 7 has a bigger display than the iPhone 7+ so I guess you'll be dissapointed. The Edges are plenty usable.
I like the Edge display and use it all the time to bring up apps and texts when browsing the net or watching videos. Sucks that you haven't found a use for it.

iPhone 7 Plus on the left and Note 7 on the right. Hard to see warping because of the curves and it's really not as bad as you are making it seem. Not everyone will like it since we aren't all equal so I can see where you are coming from.

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I prefer the display on the left.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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I have both iPhone 7+ and the Note 7. I feel like I can live without my iPhone 7+, but will not give up my Note 7 until the S8.
 

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I have one day left with my iPhone 7 plus before my 14 return period is up. While I've enjoyed the device, I'm thinking about returning it and going back to Android. Everything on the iPhone works well, it's just a bit boring and doesn't wow me like a new phone should. I got to try a Note 7 display today and it was excellent. The form factor, screen, and build quality blew me away. Touchwiz is definitely better than it used to be and everything was smooth while I used it.

Anyway, just curious if anyone else is going back to Android. Let's try not to turn this into an Android vs IOS debate.

I am, I had several iPhones, then got bored and bought a Nexus 5 which I still have :) anyway I got a Note 5 imported to replace it, but I didn't like the feel of it in my pocket when sat at work. So I bought an iPhone 6S which had been great, no real issues. So I sold it on and bought an iPhone 7 and oh dear, it feels cheap to me and the camera in my use is worst then my 6S! So I will be selling my iPhone 7 and next week another Note 5 will be arriving :) I'm in a different job now and can leave my phone on my desk.
Another their thing bugging me with the iPhone 7, being in the UK is its price, I buy my phones SIM free and the 7 cost me £699 or $906, that's for the 128GB 4.7" iPhone 7. The Note 5 has cost me £394.99 or $512.12, a comparative bargain next to the iPhone, the iPhone 7 simply is not worth the money in my mind, and the home button is horrible.
If I knew better I would still have my 6S, but it's a funny old world.

Hmm just wanted to add, reading the replies in this thread, so many of then going on about how reliable the iPhone is, really? I don't see that, the camera as I said performs worst then the 6S, I've pressed the shutter button and had a half second delay which is rubbish, the shots gone by then, as for the home button feeling, that's cheap, and iOS 10 has numerous bugs and lags on my iPad Pro, iPhone 7 and current gen iPod Touch. And I've had graphics glitches on them all too. The user experience is not like it used to be with Apple.
 
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Hmm just wanted to add, reading the replies in this thread, so many of then going on about how reliable the iPhone is, really? I don't see that, the camera as I said performs worst then the 6S, I've pressed the shutter button and had a half second delay which is rubbish, the shots gone by then, as for the home button feeling, that's cheap, and iOS 10 has numerous bugs and lags on my iPad Pro, iPhone 7 and current gen iPod Touch. And I've had graphics glitches on them all too. The user experience is not like it used to be with Apple.
I have experienced that shutter lag on iPhones before. Was your problem in dim or indoor lighting? I think my iPhones were hunting for focus then. I didn't notice as much of this behavior in one of the iterations of iOS 9. I wonder if it has creeped back in again in iOS 10. I'm going to have to test that. I've got a few important events I want to record and photograph and I want all my cameras in ready shape. I might even drag my DSLR to one of them even though DSLRs are increasingly getting the stinkeye at these things and are very conspicuous.
 
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Brandonjr36

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yea right all gimmick
the phabet was a gimmick
wireless charging is a gimmick
fast wireless chg is a gimmick
oled screen is gimmick
etc..etc..etc... the list goes on and on... it's all a gimmick until apple starts putting it in there phones. then all the fanboys are like wow it's magical, it's innovative, it's a game changer lol... you guys crack me up. i can always pop in here and get a good laugh. fact is no one was waiting in line were i live for an iphone7 and fact is. i can probally get an iphone7 here were i live but i can't get the note7.
You can't get a note 7 cause there all blowing up even the "safe ones"

And that's coming for a long time android user. I've had 1-7 galaxy s series and 3-5 notes, there all laggy piece of ****. I now have an iPhone 7 which is my first iPhone and I will never go back. This thing never lags and battery life is way better. My galaxy s7 had to be charged 3 times a day.
 

jamesrick80

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You can't get a note 7 cause there all blowing up even the "safe ones"

And that's coming for a long time android user. I've had 1-7 galaxy s series and 3-5 notes, there all laggy piece of ****. I now have an iPhone 7 which is my first iPhone and I will never go back. This thing never lags and battery life is way better. My galaxy s7 had to be charged 3 times a day.

iPhone 7's do lag at times.....there is proof on the iPhone board.....you guys are full of yourselves ......if you have to act like this to get your point across, maybe you have other issues.
 

Brandonjr36

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iPhone 7's do lag at times.....there is proof on the iPhone board.....you guys are full of yourselves ......if you have to act like this to get your point across, maybe you have other issues.
Mine doesn't lag. My galaxy was lagging machine. I would have rather had my old s4 over that pos s7. bad thing about it is when I bought them I bought 4 they all done the same sh*t. I won't go back to one. I had an lg g2 back when they came out that wasn't a bad phone, but galaxy and there touchwiz is a joke.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Mine doesn't lag. My galaxy was lagging machine. I would have rather had my old s4 over that pos s7. bad thing about it is when I bought them I bought 4 they all done the same sh*t. I won't go back to one. I had an lg g2 back when they came out that wasn't a bad phone, but galaxy and there touchwiz is a joke.

I'll bite.....
Why would you buy 4 S7 phones?
 
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