Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
So, to sum up your reply, if you like it and find it useful then you’ve no problems with there and being no problems with it being mandatory.

But if you don’t like it then it’s a PITA and it needs to be something that can be disabled?

Exactly, there's so much hypocrisy in this thread. 2 people have complained that they can't ignore a screen they don't want & might swipe into, but then state to ignore the Today view and to not swipe into it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AZhappyjack
Well, that may not be so illogical as it seems. Until now you had to take care not to swipe right too many times lest you accidentally open the Today view. Now you must be equally careful in the other direction as well. So the effort required to avoid those screens has doubled. :p
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ladybug and brentsg
App Library is a page most people will never swipe to. As many times as i’ve thought about App Library and possible uses I can’t come up with any
There must be a reason for it and hopefully they’ll explain it at the next press conference
 
I really don’t get this “feature.” It’s just another Home Screen with my apps organized far more haphazardly than my own folders. Like Mail goes with banking apps? Google translate, stocks, and kindle all go together? Really? This is supposed to help me?

And yes, I know people will say “just don’t use it,” but that’s not the point. You can turn off Siri, screen time, Touch/Face ID, etc. We should be able to turn this off too.
The funniest thing when I upgraded was Chrome - which is usually prominent on page 1 and which I use every day even if not my #1 browser - disappeared completely only to be found hidden away in a folder behind some random crap I'd downloaded years ago. We see what you're doing Apple lol ;-)
 
View attachment 954454
If you pull down on the App Library the alphabetical pick list is on the right. Most people are right-handed and hold the phone in their left hand, so the pick list would make more sense on the left so it can easily be reached one handed with your thumb.
OK this is very cool - hadn't seen the search and I really hate searching on the phone - can never remember where to find it.
 
App Library is a page most people will never swipe to. As many times as i’ve thought about App Library and possible uses I can’t come up with any
There must be a reason for it and hopefully they’ll explain it at the next press conference
Seems like a number of posts in this thread commented on the likely reasons and even various experiences of App Library usefulness to them.

And if it's really coming down to be a page that most will never swipe to, seems like it's something that can easily be avoided going by that type of logic.
 
Last edited:
Exactly, there's so much hypocrisy in this thread. 2 people have complained that they can't ignore a screen they don't want & might swipe into, but then state to ignore the Today view and to not swipe into it.

the scoundrels!!!

it’s a weird dynamic on this thread. On the one side you have people saying they dislike the App Library and wish it could be turned off or hidden.

However on the other side instead of people simply saying they like the library or having a reason for it not to be optional they are actually arguing with the doubters telling them they can’t dislike it. They must be wrong.What do you mean you can’t ignore it ! You are all hypocrites as you never complained about the today view haha!
 
  • Like
Reactions: brentsg and dk001
the scoundrels!!!

it’s a weird dynamic on this thread. On the one side you have people saying they dislike the App Library and wish it could be turned off or hidden.

However on the other side instead of people simply saying they like the library or having a reason for it not to be optional they are actually arguing with the doubters telling them they can’t dislike it. They must be wrong.What do you mean you can’t ignore it ! You are all hypocrites as you never complained about the today view haha!

Try reading my posts before generalizing.

I’ve been very clear that I’m personally not a fan of the App Library. I don’t “hate” it because it’s that’s an exceptionally strong verb to be using about something that’s really quite benign.

However given I don’t plan to use it, I choose not to swipe into it, the same way I didn’t use the widgets on my then iOS 13 powered iPhone.
 
I really don’t get this “feature.” It’s just another Home Screen with my apps organized far more haphazardly than my own folders. Like Mail goes with banking apps? Google translate, stocks, and kindle all go together? Really? This is supposed to help me?

And yes, I know people will say “just don’t use it,” but that’s not the point. You can turn off Siri, screen time, Touch/Face ID, etc. We should be able to turn this off too.

I don’t know what great is about the new widgets and app library.

I switched from android to se2 after over ten years of google phones. I think the beauty of iPhone is its simplicity. So, resembling andriod UI is not a good thing.

app library is simply to auto group the apps into folders that you could not manually change it.

a nos of my friends hate it a lot!
 
The difference between the automated and random grouping of app's and the silly way those groups are categorised and a home page that is flexible and changeable to your own liking, is the reason why so many people complain. If this library would give you the option to add app's at installation to a certain group, if those could be renamed, if you could create your own widget for a group, shortly if the library had the same flexibility as the home-screen already has, it would be an welcome addition.
Especially to have app's at alphabetical order is cool. But I want that on the home screen. Not in this silly disorganized weird manner. My VPN app's are in two different groups, my banking app's were put in even more different groups, my weather app's are in different groups, etc etc
Maybe this is the beginning of a new way to organize your app's and will it have more possibilities in the future.

Oh yes I don't hate it I don't like it; I just observe it....
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ladybug and dk001
Try reading my posts before generalizing.

I’ve been very clear that I’m personally not a fan of the App Library. I don’t “hate” it because it’s that’s an exceptionally strong verb to be using about something that’s really quite benign.

However given I don’t plan to use it, I choose not to swipe into it, the same way I didn’t use the widgets on my then iOS 13 powered iPhone.

Exactly this. I’m not saying people can’t hate it.

Just pointing out the hypocrisky of people that seem to be fine with the Today View, a screen that you swipe into (and could do by accident) being something you cannot disable, but are outraged about the App Library, a screen that you swipe into (and could do by accident) cannot be disabled. 2 people have actually posted to this effect too.
 
  • Love
Reactions: Dino F
The difference between the automated and random grouping of app's and the silly way those groups are categorised and a home page that is flexible and changeable to your own liking, is the reason why so many people complain. If this library would give you the option to add app's at installation to a certain group, if those could be renamed, if you could create your own widget for a group, shortly if the library had the same flexibility as the home-screen already has, it would be an welcome addition.
Especially to have app's at alphabetical order is cool. But I want that on the home screen. Not in this silly disorganized weird manner. My VPN app's are in two different groups, my banking app's were put in even more different groups, my weather app's are in different groups, etc etc
Maybe this is the beginning of a new way to organize your app's and will it have more possibilities in the future.

Oh yes I don't hate it I don't like it; I just observe it....

The silly way they are categorised? You mean the App Store categories that the Developers have chosen for their app? So that when you download an App, it automatically goes into the Category folder that was chosen by the developer?

If you start customising it, it defeats the point of it and just becomes another Home Screen. Also, if you change a category folder name, what happens to new apps that have that category? Does it go there too? Does a new version of the original category name appear?

For most the users here, the App Library isn’t the target audience for this, the Home Screen is.
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: dk001 and Dino F
Okay. People are getting crazy about this. I’m going to present a real world scenario to demonstrate the insanity that’s prevailing about the App Library and now the Today View.
You’re driving along in your car and decide you need to make a right turn. You put your left turn signal on by mistake (swipe left to App Library), realize the mistake then quickly switch to your right signal, make your turn and move on. BMW owners that may be confused, the Turn Signal is that little lever on the left side of your steering column.
Now that your on your way are you going to call the car manufacturer and tell them to remove the turn signals or hide them so they don’t get in your way and ruin your whole day???
I don’t particularly like App Library or Today View so I don’t use them and if I accidentally swipe to them I just swipe again to the screen I want. I respect people having their opinions whether I agree or not but the anger is ridiculous.
 
I'm getting used to the App Library, but not really a fan of it being on the last page. I wouldn't mind seeing the swiping gestures tweaked on the home screen. Instead of having to swipe all the way to the left page to get the Today view, or all the way to the right to get to the App Library...I think it would be nice to just swipe from the left edge to show the Today view, or swipe from the right edge to show the App Library - no matter which page you're on.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dk001
they are actually arguing with the doubters telling them they can’t dislike it.
Except that's really not what has been actually commented on a said most of the time. Most of that sort of commentary has been to comment on how that dislike is being presented -- in various cases it's presented in a way that says or at least implies that the App Library changes so much that things are somehow unusable and horrible basically, on other cases there are misconceptions being brought up around it, none of which is really the case.

It's not really about not being able to dislike or want something different, and more about misconceptions, inconsistencies, and over-exaggerations.
 
What a twist of an excuse. You can easily say the same about the App Library, you choose not to use the same logic just because it means you can’t whine.

Excuse? Hardly. Look at widgets and Today page functions at inception and now. Big change.
I use very few widgets and except for beta testing those are all 3rd party.

I hope the App Library evolves.
 
How is it invasive? It’s a swipe away, same as the today screen. How can one be invasive and the other one not? Stating it is tied into the app side of the iOS is a crap copout. Just don’t swipe over to that screen, same as you would say to people that complained about today view.

Really? Look at the fucntionality, the tie in to the OS, the tie in to the apps.
Very different.
[automerge]1600700926[/automerge]
Workshelves in your office would be visible, lol. This is like if I built shelves you never see, unless you stumbled out an unused side door...

“L” shaped workshop? ;)
 
I'm surprised so many hate this feature. I really like it. In fact, it's one of my favorite iOS 14 features. I now have a very minimal, single-page layout. Most of the apps on my phone are things I rarely use but don't want to delete. I like that they're now hidden and still easily accessible. I also prefer the app library's folders over regular folders because I usually don't have to open the folder to use the apps I'd most likely use. I would, however, like the ability to categorize the apps myself but it's not that big of a deal for me.

Then again, maybe I just like it because I don't want to see any dots on the bottom of my screen while also not having half of my home screen taken up by folders.
 
Most of the time it's a realistic approach to it all, in particular to things that don't change the existing features and how someone uses their device.

That said, a lot of the responses here are more in relation to portraying things more accurately as in a lot of cases App Library has been presented in posts as something that affects or changes what people already have and use (their normal organization of applications, folders, and home screens) which isn't really the case.

Some of the commentary addresses that the App Library can be improved (and it's still certainly might over time), and that while an option to disable it could be nice, there's quite a bit of likelihood that that won't happen (Today View is one example of that).

While I agree I do hope barring a switch to hide it / turn it off, Apple does something to make this more useful for those who are ordered and / or have their device organized for their situation. Or allows 3rd party to do so. After testing it across 8+ betas and even trying the Widget/Shortcut/App Library layout, I am definitely not a fan. Far to “locked down” to be really useful - IMO.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ladybug
Well, that may not be so illogical as it seems. Until now you had to take care not to swipe right too many times lest you accidentally open the Today view. Now you must be equally careful in the other direction as well. So the effort required to avoid those screens has doubled. :p
So....change the app library to where you have to swipe right TWICE to access it. Thoughts?
 
  • Like
Reactions: dk001
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.