Didn’t realise the folder positions don’t stay put. For me that makes the Library even worse.
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App Library: I hate it
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Didn’t realise the folder positions don’t stay put. For me that makes the Library even worse.
It hasn't been mentioned if it's a bug or if it's intended. I assume they change position based on usage, so if you use apps from a specific Category more often, the whole Category moves up.
But this makes it harder to find things fast...
I think this is intentional. I suspect the reason one can hide screens up to the library is they want folks to trust Siri (The algorithm that suggests what we need) because that is cool. Being able to customize your phone is not cool. But, there if you want it, if you have screens of categorization they are still there.
I use the pull down method to launch apps not on the home screen, most of the time, the app is either on the suggestion bar, or one letter away.
Apple has the numbers on what we do. They know 90% of the time we stay on home screen, making it up as an example. They are attempting to solve the 10% here. I've decided to give it a try, hid my foldered second screen and will give it a go.
We saw this a few times throughout the betas.
The folders would change positions. They were renamed (a couple of them) and apps changed folders.
At the moment the changes may have to do more with settling down as thge are rolled out.
JMO
I would think people's impressions would be very different if they were new to the iPhone world and just set up with the App Library vs. those that have their world organized and aren't really excited about their world changing.
To me it doesn't seem bad but to really use it as it should be I'd probably want to hide (delete) all the icons and folders on all the other pages and I'm just not willing to do that - yet.
More flexibility would probably help people like and get used to it and maybe that will come with time
To me it doesn't seem bad but to really use it as it should be I'd probably want to hide (delete) all the icons and folders on all the other pages and I'm just not willing to do that - yet.
More flexibility would probably help people like and get used to it and maybe that will come with time
I'm utilizing the App Library as a storage for apps I don't use frequently - been able to clear up my home screen a bit and add a widget or two to it. Yeah, I've noticed the folders changing too - I assume based on usage - some apps I tend to use at certain times of the day are now prominent. Pretty cool. That is actually really helpful and I'm starting to use it more and more. Warming up to it.
I don't miss my home page full of folders with pages and pages of apps.
I don't miss my home page full of folders with pages and pages of apps.
Yes, it's been mentioned multiple times in this thread (and others), but that message seems to be falling on deaf ears.
If there are more than four apps in the folder just tap one of the small icons and the folder will open and display the contents in alphabetical order. (If there are 4 or fewer apps then no need to open the folder.
)Why is there an “Other” category? Are those apps with no category assigned by the devs; or a grab-bag of individual apps each with their own category?
I think as usual people get a bit over enthusiastic expressing their dislike for things online.
It’s ok but would be better if it defaulted to that with options to customise names and what’s where. To be honest I would be happy if I could just have the alphabetical list as the default.
It’s ok but would be better if it defaulted to that with options to customise names and what’s where. To be honest I would be happy if I could just have the alphabetical list as the default.
One thing that would make the feature useful to me is to give users a preference to default to the list view.
Just like Apple did with Watch OS, when it added that option, as an alternative to the grid view.
Otherwise, I'm just going to ignore it.
The tile view offers little to nothing compared to what existed before, some of the classifications are puzzling, and worse, can't be changed.
Are the App Store and Wallet apps, really "Utilities?" Tossed in with browsers, calculators/other small tools, and Settings? Does one not shop for apps, or use the wallet, in line with the Shopping & Food category, along with Amazon, Etsy, eBay, and Apple Store apps? Why are Ring's apps utilities, and Eufyhome "Other?" Why isn't there a Home(kit) category for those types of apps?
A worthy goal, but half-baked implementation with much room for improvement, so send your Feedback to Apple.
Just like Apple did with Watch OS, when it added that option, as an alternative to the grid view.
Otherwise, I'm just going to ignore it.
The tile view offers little to nothing compared to what existed before, some of the classifications are puzzling, and worse, can't be changed.
Are the App Store and Wallet apps, really "Utilities?" Tossed in with browsers, calculators/other small tools, and Settings? Does one not shop for apps, or use the wallet, in line with the Shopping & Food category, along with Amazon, Etsy, eBay, and Apple Store apps? Why are Ring's apps utilities, and Eufyhome "Other?" Why isn't there a Home(kit) category for those types of apps?
A worthy goal, but half-baked implementation with much room for improvement, so send your Feedback to Apple.
There definitely should be a folder for Apples default apps like App Store and Wallet . On my phone I have a folder called "🍎iApps" .
Only 1 question...Why can’t the App Library be turned off if the user doesn’t want the feature
Again that would only half-please the population. I have my Apple apps spread across different categories like shopping, navigation and productivity etc.
Until the powers that be allow us to rename and re-order the library as well as offering a hide option this debate will continue to run into hundreds of pages.
If only it were that simple. You have to swipe down from the MIDDLE of the screen in Apps view. Go too high and you just get the notification Centre. Which doesn’t have a search afaik. And is not the widget page which has a different search function ( but go from top right and what’s that yet another widget page now without search) And if you’re in an app like Mail - an app I search maybe 10 times a day every day on my computer- you can’t search at all from the topmost mailbox view (weird) but within a mailbox sometimes search just sits there at the top of a page sometimes it doesn’t depending maybe on whether you moved the page. And when you’re actually in an email good luck I’ve just looked and couldn’t find a search function but you’re far more brainy than me so you’ll undoubtedly know the answer to this!
It's just a redundancy that isn't needed. For those of us who already organize our apps in folders and can use the search to find an app in case we "misplace" it, it's not needed and there should be an option to disable it. I thought my jailbreaking days were over 4 years ago, but now it may be time to jump on the bandwagon again if there is ever a solution.
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That's one of the points of this thread -- it can't be turned off.
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That's one of the points of this thread -- it can't be turned off.
Wow, again. I've been using iPhone since the original, and never realized that searching was so freaking hard to do.
For years Apple has stubbornly refused to give us a way of hiding the apps we didn't use. While on Android you could choose exactly which apps you wanted to see on your home screen(s), the rest being hidden in an 'all apps' view, Apple used to force everybody into keeping several home screens loaded with dozens of apps that couldn't be hidden (nor deleted, in the case of pre-installed ones).
So iOS users had no other choice than to arrange their icons on the home screens in a convenient way, using folders to keep similar apps together, moving rarely used apps onto the second or third screen, burying unused apps into a folder on the last screen, etc.
Now, for the first time in history, Apple has given in. They have finally decided to let us choose what to keep on the home screen(s) and to let us hide the rest. And that's great.
But if they do that, if they allow apps to be hidden away from the home screen, then they must also devise a means of accessing those apps later on. They must give us an 'all apps' view, independent of the home screen layout. Enter the App Library.
Currently it's ugly and not very versatile. But it must exist, otherwise we couldn't hide apps from the home screen lest we become unable to find them again. Given enough time, I'm sure it will evolve into something useful.
People who are determined to keep their home screen layout exactly as it is now, because it's been working perfectly for years and there's no need to change anything, find the App Library a nuisance, one more screen to avoid swiping to.
People who expect the App Library to be a complete replacement of the home screen (i.e. to rely on it exclusively) are disappointed and find it ugly and messy, with icons grouped in a way that doesn't always make sense.
However, if you see it just as a means of finding a rarely used app from time to time, complementing a home screen which now only contains frequently used apps, then it makes sense.
At first I was in the first category. I wanted to keep my home screen layout, which had served me well for so much time, and had no intention of making any change. So once I found out about the App Library and saw it for the first time, I was appalled at how ugly and useless it appeared to be.
But then I realized that I had two home screens filled with icons. And those apps were of three types:
1. Apps that I used every day, or at least once every few days
2. Apps that I used rarely, maybe once or twice a month, or even less
3. Apps I never used, but couldn't get rid of (e.g. Health)
So I thought, what if I kept just one home screen, and just the apps of the first category, and I hid the rest? And it's awesome! Now all the apps I use frequently are right on the home screen (just one screen this time, no second page, no folders), while the others are hidden. And on the once in a blue moon occasion that I need to use another app, I just pull down and search for it, or if I'm too lazy to search, I swipe left and look for it in the App Library (which, although ugly, is OK for this job).
Not only that, but keeping just the frequently used apps on the home screen has freed up enough space to also fit the weather widget, so no more swiping right to get to it.
It's great. I love it. Not the App Library itself, I don't love that, it's obviously in need of some improvements, but I do love the freedom that comes with it.
So iOS users had no other choice than to arrange their icons on the home screens in a convenient way, using folders to keep similar apps together, moving rarely used apps onto the second or third screen, burying unused apps into a folder on the last screen, etc.
Now, for the first time in history, Apple has given in. They have finally decided to let us choose what to keep on the home screen(s) and to let us hide the rest. And that's great.
But if they do that, if they allow apps to be hidden away from the home screen, then they must also devise a means of accessing those apps later on. They must give us an 'all apps' view, independent of the home screen layout. Enter the App Library.
Currently it's ugly and not very versatile. But it must exist, otherwise we couldn't hide apps from the home screen lest we become unable to find them again. Given enough time, I'm sure it will evolve into something useful.
People who are determined to keep their home screen layout exactly as it is now, because it's been working perfectly for years and there's no need to change anything, find the App Library a nuisance, one more screen to avoid swiping to.
People who expect the App Library to be a complete replacement of the home screen (i.e. to rely on it exclusively) are disappointed and find it ugly and messy, with icons grouped in a way that doesn't always make sense.
However, if you see it just as a means of finding a rarely used app from time to time, complementing a home screen which now only contains frequently used apps, then it makes sense.
At first I was in the first category. I wanted to keep my home screen layout, which had served me well for so much time, and had no intention of making any change. So once I found out about the App Library and saw it for the first time, I was appalled at how ugly and useless it appeared to be.
But then I realized that I had two home screens filled with icons. And those apps were of three types:
1. Apps that I used every day, or at least once every few days
2. Apps that I used rarely, maybe once or twice a month, or even less
3. Apps I never used, but couldn't get rid of (e.g. Health)
So I thought, what if I kept just one home screen, and just the apps of the first category, and I hid the rest? And it's awesome! Now all the apps I use frequently are right on the home screen (just one screen this time, no second page, no folders), while the others are hidden. And on the once in a blue moon occasion that I need to use another app, I just pull down and search for it, or if I'm too lazy to search, I swipe left and look for it in the App Library (which, although ugly, is OK for this job).
Not only that, but keeping just the frequently used apps on the home screen has freed up enough space to also fit the weather widget, so no more swiping right to get to it.
It's great. I love it. Not the App Library itself, I don't love that, it's obviously in need of some improvements, but I do love the freedom that comes with it.
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Could have also been accomplished with a "wiggle mode" option for "Hide Application" and then have a Hidden Applications menu under Settings where all of the hidden apps are listed. These could have still been searchable.
This would make much more sense since a lot of already have apps categorized in folders with names of our own choosing.
Personally, I find it an ugly, redundant mess.