App Store Piracy Stats

[yg17]

What did i do wrong ??? I don't pirate. Why are you mad at me. Just be cause i don't support jailbreaking???

Without the Jail-Breaking, there would be no piracy on the iPhone.

Jail-breaking is the cause of piracy of iPhones.
Wihout the Jail-breaking, there would be no such thing of pirating the iPhone.

That's my point.

No JB = No piracy

Uh oh, somebody better call the whambulance


There's be no piracy without the internet either, but you don't see anyone calling for us to get rid of that. There are tons of legit uses for jailbreaking that don't involve piracy.

 

[alent1234]

Apple won't have to kill it, developers will abandon it as they realize how far into their pockets piracy reaches. It's happened to various platforms in the past, it'll happen to more platforms in the future, it'll happen to the iPhone. Fewer and fewer new apps show up on the store until one day you notice that there hasn't been anything new in months. Any serious developer is also writing for Blackberry and/or Windows Mobile and/or Android simple to gain exposure and lessen loss. Sure, those platforms have their share of piracy, too, but at least they don't have Apple being a total pain in their ass every step of the way.

I jailbreak my phone for one application, 3G Unrestrictor, which I paid for. How's that for irony?

how many of the blackberries out there are locked down by BES where the user can't install anything?

there hasn't been a hardware/software platform that was 100% immune to piracy

 

[RappleRapple]

Wahhhh.

 

[cublah]

Pika is right in a way. I just released an update of one of my apps and within days it was cracked, I had installed analytics in the latest version and got some interesting numbers.

I got 967 downloads in a week.
612 were from people with Jailbroken phones.
599 downloads were cracked!

Hence only 13 people who had a Jailbroken phone paid for my app.

 

[cublah]

Your point is that jailbreaking=piracy which is completely false. If Apple didn't rule the iphone with an iron fist then there would be no reason to jailbreak. Apple wants to cry about jailbreaking and say its illegal and they can't see that its their fault that people jailbreak. I mean we just got MMS last month that's pretty sad. If Apple would open up the iphone and give people features that jailbreaking provides then most people wouldn't jailbreak anymore. Jailbreaking will always be around Apple won't stop it. If you want to stop jailbreaking because that's the cause of piracy then why not just shut down the internet since its the internet that provides a way for pirates to do what they do.

How can it be Apple's fault? If Apple opened up the phone and you could download anything to your phone, it wouldn't be long before somebody releases something damaging to the phone and unsuspecting people would have huge problems, Apple are only protecting themselves and making sure they can give you users the best they can.

App's are only mainly on average a couple of dollars, most developers release lite versions so people can see what they are getting, so the excuse that people like to play them before they try is just justification by people who download something for free, I'm sure they would complain if they went to work and then at the end of the week they didn't get paid, that's what it's like for the developers.

 

[bruinsrme]

Pika is right in a way. I just released an update of one of my apps and within days it was cracked, I had installed analytics in the latest version and got some interesting numbers.

I got 967 downloads in a week.
612 were from people with Jailbroken phones.
599 downloads were cracked!

Hence only 13 people who had a Jailbroken phone paid for my app.

After looking at the two games I wouldn't consider making the purchase without trying them. The description of the games and screen shots are extremely lacking.

 

[err404]

See ? This is big evidence that Jailbreaking = Piracy. I'm fully against Jailbraking and I hope Apple find a way to put an end to this tumor.

All it does is turning a real iPhone into a fake iPhone from china.

According to the numbers ~2,500,000 people have discovered Jailbreaking fills some legitimate need and have not resorted to pirating apps.

In other words Apple needs to be listening since 2.5 million honest users are apparently unsatisfied with the iPhones out-of-the-box experience; enough to push them void their warranty in search of solutions.

 

[str1f3]

After looking at the two games I wouldn't consider making the purchase without trying them. The description of the games and screen shots are extremely lacking.

That has very little to do with it. I'm sure most, if not almost all, are not buying this game after getting the cracked version which they don't have to pay for and just leave as is. I'm sure it's close to the same percentages with apps that offer a lite version.

According to the numbers ~2,500,000 people have discovered Jailbreaking fills some legitimate need and have not resorted to pirating apps.

I agree and would also say that it seems most of the issue of stolen apps seems to be coming from China (37%), Russia (25%), and Brazil (22%). What a surprise!

In the US, Great Britain and Japan it only accounts for no more than 5% of their respective jailbreak users.

In other words Apple needs to be listening since 2.5 million honest users are apparently unsatisfied with the iPhones out-of-the-box experience; enough to push them void their warranty in search of solutions.

That is true but it should also be said that doing all the things we ask for is no easy task. Backgrounder is just a hack. For example, in order for multitasking to be done correctly on the iPhone the whole OS may have to be redesigned so it can be seamless as much as the iPhone is now. Right now most consider it the best smartphone already w/o these features.

It should be noted that using many use jailbreaking for using apps over 3G that AT&T disallows even though it is their data they paid for. These kind of things are out of Apple's hands. As for Google Voice, it is becoming abundantly clear, by the way AT&T is now going after Google, that they had some serious influence over it's current state of eternal purgatory. They hate Google Voice so much that they would rather allow Skype over 3G.

 

[cublah]

After looking at the two games I wouldn't consider making the purchase without trying them. The description of the games and screen shots are extremely lacking.

ok that's fine, but that is why I created lite version's, those were my 1st 2 apps and mainly coding exercises, although I have made a fair amount of money from them and I did create an updated version of Ballz! with better graphics and more features.

Each to there own, this is a thread about hacking not bashing other people's apps.

 

[kate-willbury]

See ? This is big evidence that Jailbreaking = Piracy. I'm fully against Jailbraking and I hope Apple find a way to put an end to this tumor.

All it does is turning a real iPhone into a fake iPhone from china.

are you a complete moron? how is this 'evidence' that jailbreaking = piracy? nevermind the fact that you HAVE to be jailbroken in order to even pirate anything. idiot.

without the jailbreak community, there would never have been an app store in the first place. kind of obvious if you knew anything about it.

the iphone would be garbage without jailbreaking. i certainly wouldn't be using mine without jb.

 

[yalag]

the only reason why anyone would jailbreak is to crack apps. accept the fact

 

[uberamd]

the only reason why anyone would jailbreak is to crack apps. accept the fact

But that isn't a fact... not at all. I installed stuff like backgrounder, GrIP, and a few others when I jailbroke. Nothing to do with piracy or app cracking.... so you are so wrong its not even funny.

 

[yalag]

But that isn't a fact... not at all. I installed stuff like backgrounder, GrIP, and a few others when I jailbroke. Nothing to do with piracy or app cracking.... so you are so wrong its not even funny.

either you have cracked apps before, are you belong to the 5%

 

[kate-willbury]

the only reason why anyone would jailbreak is to crack apps. accept the fact

actually the main reason i jailbreak is to have auto-rotation toggle. the only reason you posted your naive statement is because you don't know anything about jailbreaking.

and without jailbreaking in the first place, apple would have NEVER released any sort of app store to capitalize on the already booming jailbreaking 3rd party app development community. accept THAT fact.

another fact..a lot of the best apps in the app store today are from people/companies that made jailbroken versions of their apps first because apple deemed the iphone/ipod touch to be a locked device in which no one else could install anything. accept THAT fact.

 

[Pika]

But that isn't a fact... not at all. I installed stuff like backgrounder, GrIP, and a few others when I jailbroke. Nothing to do with piracy or app cracking.... so you are so wrong its not even funny.

That's another bullock excuse to Jail-break.

Who gives a **** about background ? I care that my phone and my apps doesn't crash. I care to get the latest apple updates ! I care about my warrantee... then a stupid background wallpaper.

The main reason why people jail-break is simple:

- Free Apps
- Free Carrier

It's all about money... I mean look at china... look at the stats... poor and communist countries are high on iPhone Jailbreaking... Why is this??? Why???

 

[LSUtigers03]

I've jailbroke every iphone that Apple has made and I buy my apps. In fact this morning I added more credit to my itunes account so I could buy more apps. I jailbreak to use things like backgrounder, quickreply (so I can answer a text without leaving the app I'm in), 3g unrestrictor (because the iphone gets treated unfairly when it comes to things like sling), and many other things. Yesterday I noticed some issues with my phone since updating to 3.1.2 so I wanted to set the phone up as new but I didn't want to lose the data for my app store apps. If you aren't jailbroken then you're screwed but if you are jailbroken you can use appbackup to back up your data then restore it so you won't lose it. The legit uses of jailbreaking far outweigh the piracy.

 

[kate-willbury]

That's another ******** excuse to Jail-break.

Who gives a **** about background ? I care that my iphone and my apps doesn't crash. I care to get the latest apple updates ! I care about my warrantee... then a stupid background wallpaper.

llololoolol. backgrounder is not a 'background wallpaper' app.

backgrounder lets you run more than one app at a time. for example you can listen to last.fm/pandora apps at the same time while running another app on your iphone/ipod. some people with common sense would find this quite useful.

do you even know anything? why are you clueless fanboys so insistent and yet know absolutely nothing?

 

[sharp65]

That's another ******** excuse to Jail-break.

Who gives a **** about background ? I care that my iphone and my apps doesn't crash. I care to get the latest apple updates ! I care about my warrantee... then a stupid background wallpaper.

When your going on a pointless and incoherent rant, it really helps to at least know what your talking about. Backgrounder has nothing to do with changing your background wallpaper. But I know that's probably a lot to expect from you going off what other people have said.

 

[LSUtigers03]

That's another ******** excuse to Jail-break.

Who gives a **** about background ? I care that my iphone and my apps doesn't crash. I care to get the latest apple updates ! I care about my warrantee... then a stupid background wallpaper.

My apps never crash and I've returned phones that have been jailbroken to Apple and had them replaced without any issues. Also you have no clue what backgrounder is which makes your argument meaningless.

 

[Pika]

Look at Japan compared to China...

 

[kate-willbury]

look at japan

um..what about japan.

and i love the fact that you completely ignore posts that easily dismantle your weak arguments.

and pretty obvious that china, which basically bootlegs in EVERY SINGLE industry, would be the highest. whats your point?

 

[Pika]

My apps never crash and I've returned phones that have been jailbroken to Apple and had them replaced without any issues. Also you have no clue what backgrounder is which makes your argument meaningless.

Liar

Third, all jailbroken phones (whether the application is pirated or not) suffer from increased application crash rates, which may result in more-frequent uninstalls.

Read this from the website.

Im on OS 3.1.2 and i have 500 apps installed on my iPhone 3GS and none... NONE have crashed on my face.

 

[LSUtigers03]

Liar



Read this from the website.

Im on OS 3.1.2 and i have 500 apps installed on my iPhone 3GS and none... NONE have crashed.

Haha I'm a liar? I know the performance of my phone.

 

[calvy]

Liar



Read this from the website.

Im on OS 3.1.2 and i have 500 apps installed on my iPhone 3GS and none... NONE have crashed on my face.

I read on THIS website that it's not true. So how does that prove anything?

I personally am jailbroken on my 3GS. I also pirate some apps. I hope one of them is yours.

Rarely do any of them crash. Even when running in background mode with Backgrounder. I regularly run C25K, RunKeeper, and my internet radio streaming app all at the same time while running for about 30 minutes each day. Rarely do I have a problem.

 

[macfan881]

Just look at apple now... they are resistant with the iPhone 3GS 3.1.2 !

Jailbreaking iPhones is something the Dev-Team and others have been able to pull off with every new hardware and software release from Apple. That might halt, at least temporarily, with new jailbreak-resistant firmwares included in the newest iPhone 3GS models.

The Dev-Team and other jailbreak makers have been using an exploit known as 24kpwn to break into the iPhone and obtain deeper access to install new app markets and unlock certain features. A new booting firmware update, iBoot-359.3.2, has been shipped on 3GS models manufactured since last week, however, and a Dev-Team member tells the Boy Genius Report that jailbreaking won't be possible on the newer units, at least until another exploit is found.

Apple is working very very hard to make Jail-breaking impossible and they've been doing the same thing with the OSX86 project as well.

pika stop posting and go back to your job as the apple rep