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App Store Piracy Stats

Hmm.....

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

iSaveWeb is an application used to download a website. Which, if he's so bent on piracy....he should remove his own app from the app store. Pika himself is writing an app that is aiding in the download of copyrighted material.
 
Pika said:
What did i do wrong ??? I don't pirate. Why are you mad at me. Just be cause i don't support jailbreaking??? :mad:

Without the Jail-Breaking, there would be no piracy on the iPhone.

Jail-breaking is the cause of piracy of iPhones.
Wihout the Jail-breaking, there would be no such thing of pirating the iPhone.

That's my point.

No JB = No piracy
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Without cars, there would be no car accidents. Therefore, we should ban cars, right?
 
Without jailbreaking would there even have been an app store to begin with?
 
OneMike said:
Without jailbreaking would there even have been an app store to begin with?
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I think so. It's sort of an obvious thing for Apple to do to push hardware sales. They don't exactly hire stupid people..
 
bruinsrme said:
I am going to go out on a limb here.
Since pika is categorizing all jailbreakerd as pirates I am sure he can relate to this.
Maybie pika drinks alcohol and drives a vehicle he is not only a drunk but drives under the influence.
After all one can only assume every that drinks alcohol and drives must be drunk drivers because there can be no seperation.
I have no idea if he drinks or dances naked around jailbroken phones doing some voodoo dance just like he doesn't know if we dress in drag and sing show tunes.
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Yawn. I doubt that the Somali pirates attack those oil freighters because they copies of Tap Tap Revolution on them. Oh wait.. I think you mean Copyright infringment...

Show me one just ONE case where copyright infringement on Appulous causes harm to a developer.

Only like 10% of American's put cracked apps on their iPhones. Big Deal.

Bill Gates once said that he was happy that the Chinese were pirating his apps because no one would want to use Linux or OSX.

If I was an Appstore developer, I would be happy to see my app on Appulous It's free advertising!:p
 
mgamber said:
Someone with some common sense and half a brain? It's not exactly rocket science.
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Common sense is a precise formula? Tell me, what is the formula to decide the rate and then tell me how you arrived at that formula.

@Pika....just ignore him. Nobody actually likes him, he just has a vendetta against jailbreakers because he thinks they ALL download his crappy application.
 
strike1555 said:
Common sense is a precise formula? Tell me, what is the formula to decide the rate and then tell me how you arrived at that formula.

@Pika....just ignore him. Nobody actually likes him, he just has a vendetta against jailbreakers because he thinks they ALL download his crappy application.
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I don't think his app is crappy. I just think he wants to profit from his app. Whatever disappointment he is having with the sales of his app is causing him to look for a scapegoat.

The days of making $200,000 in the first month on the appstore is long gone. Now your app has to be substantially good.
 
Sparky9292 said:
Yawn. I doubt that the Somali pirates attack those oil freighters because they copies of Tap Tap Revolution on them. Oh wait.. I think you mean Copyright infringment...

Show me one just ONE case where copyright infringement on Appulous causes harm to a developer.

Only like 10% of American's put cracked apps on their iPhones. Big Deal.

Bill Gates once said that he was happy that the Chinese were pirating his apps because no one would want to use Linux or OSX.

If I was an Appstore developer, I would be happy to see my app on Appulous It's free advertising!:p
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First off, I have no idea what the hell you're first paragraph is about.

As to your second, they don't have to prove anything. You're stealing no matter how many different ways you try to slice it.

Regarding your third, read the NYT article from today I believe. Microsoft is actually tryingto fight the piracy. BTW, I'm sure Bill Gates can afford to lose in the short term when it comes to piracy in China. Small developers don't. They have families to feed and bills to pay.

As to your last, it is a joke. Exactly why should they be happy? The only people who visits those sites are the ones looking for cracked apps.

You can try to make reasons for yourself as to why it's ok to steal from people who don't have much. The truth is that the people who steal from devs are no different than the jerkoffs on Wall Street who ask for a bailout and then give out $160 billion in bonuses.
 
strike1555 said:
Good point. Kinda pathetic really reading all of his rants in the threads.
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Yeah Pika does rant and he is not fully right in blaming all jailbreakers (especially when it's not the majority) for this. IDK, but maybe he does know at what percentage it is being used while cracked. I will say this, though, I can easily see a dev being pissed off at putting some hard work into their app and having to go through the approval process, only to have a bunch of people steal it as soon as it comes out.
 
str1f3 said:
Yeah Pika does rant and he is not fully right in blaming all jailbreakers for this. IDK, but maybe he does know at what percentage it is being used while cracked. I will say this, though, I can easily see a dev being pissed off at putting some hard work into their app and having to go through the approval process, only to have a bunch of people steal it as soon as it comes out.
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But it's NOT the same as stealing. Pika still has the original copy.

I'd say that copyright infringement is really not that evil compared to rape or murder. It's less evil than shoplifting something from a store.

When you say "steal" you feel that copyright infringement is as evil as going to steal my neighbors car, or steal all of the money in the bank.:eek:
 
Sparky9292 said:
But it's NOT the same as stealing. Pika still has the original copy.

I'd say that copyright infringement is really not that evil compared to rape or murder. It's less evil than shoplifting something from a store.

When you say "steal" you feel that copyright infringement is as evil as going to steal my neighbors car, or steal all of the money in the bank.:eek:
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It's semantics. If you are taking something that you didn't pay for and was not offered for free, it is stealing. While in the court of law it is copyright infringement, it is nevertheless stealing.

There are always different levels of committing a crime. But when I say they are no differentthnqn the people at Wall Street, I am referring to greed. You are taking something you don't need, but want it anyway and yet want it for free. I'm not viewing all copyright infringement as being the same. I'm not a judge or lawyer. I'm looking at this from a moral perspective.

Normally I wouldn't care too much about piracy. It's wrong but the music/movie/tv businesses have other avenues of making money. Devs don't. This is the only way they make money. Read about the lives of some of these people. Most don't make tons of money and have to pay bills like you and me. When you steal from these kinds of people, in my eyes, it is far worse than getting the latest U2 album off the torrents.
 
Yet pika is offering his [app]iSaveWeb Lite[/app] for free and you could get the paid version for free if you Jailbreak and go to Appulous.
 
Apparently Rally Master Pro just came out yesterday and the developer is already seeing a 95% piracy rate of his game and questions the long term viability of the platform if piracy is occuring at such a high rate:

http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=30751&page=11

From Fishlabs:

We think RMP is a polished game and if you like rally racing it offers great value for €5,99 but we don't want to argue with our customers. However, it feels kind of strange to be facing a discussion of 50 Euro Cents about international price points on a game that we have spent 5,000 working hours on. In combination with 95% piracy (!) on the first day this makes it very hard to believe in the future of the App Store, sometimes.
 
Pika said:
See ? This is big evidence that Jailbreaking = Piracy. I'm fully against Jailbraking and I hope Apple find a way to put an end to this tumor.

All it does is turning a real iPhone into a fake iPhone from china.
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you're pretty close to china. what are you going to do? :D

I though jailbreaking = prison break? :D:D
 
Interesting. I had my iphone jailbroken before the APP store days, but it seems that things have changed.
 
yalag said:
the only reason why anyone would jailbreak is to crack apps. accept the fact
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FAIL. I've jailbroken my iPod Touch, and didn't even know until now that you could crack apps. That's because I've downloaded my apps from the App Store and paid for the ones that I liked that weren't free. I jailbroke my device to change icons, docks, the lockscreen, and other UI-related things. Your comment is absolutely ridiculous.
 
str1f3 said:
Apparently Rally Master Pro just came out yesterday and the developer is already seeing a 95% piracy rate of his game and questions the long term viability of the platform if piracy is occuring at such a high rate:

http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=30751&page=11

From Fishlabs:

We think RMP is a polished game and if you like rally racing it offers great value for €5,99 but we don't want to argue with our customers. However, it feels kind of strange to be facing a discussion of 50 Euro Cents about international price points on a game that we have spent 5,000 working hours on. In combination with 95% piracy (!) on the first day this makes it very hard to believe in the future of the App Store, sometimes.
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Most of that is in China or Russia, so take the 95% number with a grain of salt. In addition, you don't hear EA bitching about piracy.

Just make a good game and don't worry about the 1% of the population skilled enough to JB and apply AppSync to their iPhone.
 
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