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- Some users being unable to get certain apps or functionality through their one preferred store, though they could get it somewhere else

vs.

- One single store (App Store) having a monopoly on all app purchases and witholding certain apps or functionality from all users - so they can't get it anywhere else

👉 I can clearly see where there's the greater lack of choice
 
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...and that last part is a good thing.

It will at least in theory present an alternative to the App Store. If Apple gets - or remains - too greedy, or has too lopsided rules, a developer at least could offer product/service through their own website. Why would they though, as long as Apple offers fair rules and commission rates?

It just levels the playing field (at least a little bit), instead of leaving 100% unilateral pricing power to Apple.
It’s not a bad thing but can quickly turn into a UX trainwreck for customers. Imagine each app you need on your phone requiring you to download its maker’s alternative store so they do not pay a fee to another app store, but also to act as an updater service. I’ve never seen iOS apps handle updates by themselves like desktop apps, the App Store handles that
 
I’ve never seen iOS apps handle updates by themselves like desktop apps, the App Store handles that
Fairly painless. The app itself can check for an update upon startup - and just link to the download site.
Apple themselves describe that for in-house apps.

Is it as convenient as an "update all" button on the iOS App Store? No. But not a big deal either.
 
It will not matter as these App developers in the other stores will not be $99 for development kit and they will be paying licensing fees for using the API to iOS which Apple owns 100%. We will also see more of Apple only features. Everyone must remember that while you own the phone you do not own the operating system. You have a license to use it with your phone but that is it. Every software product you have is licensed so no software is owned.
Other operating systems don’t do that, but if apple tried it I’d hope that the EU clarified that linking to a library does not require a copyright license and that a header (or equivalent) is merely descriptive of a copyright work and not itself copyrightable.

Ideally such behaviour would push more people into realising that copyright is a blight on humanity and should never have existed in anything like its modern form, but even when a critical mass of people can be convinced (however long that takes) the EU commission won’t care.
 
People seem to forget that in the USA we live in a walled garden of available phone devices. Brands like Oppo, Huawei, Xiaomi and ZTE are not for sale in the states. So we are limited to only the Apple and Android brands that the FCC approves. Who knows what features we are missing out on from those manufacturers let alone App Stores. :rolleyes:
 
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That will not happen as the only way to be discovered will be the 1st party store. With the exception of a few zealots and cheapskates very few people will venture outside of the store because it is too easy to use.
Discord is a pretty popular app that’s limited on iOS compared to the Mac or android versions, because of App Store restrictions on 18+ UGC in apps (which somehow doesn’t apply to Twitter).
 
I love a government telling me what I can and cannot buy.

I bought an iPhone, in large part, for the security and convenience of all apps coming from a single verifying source.

Now it’s going to become the same Balkanized nonsense that Android is.

Thanks, Europe.
The fact that I can sideload and have a Samsung Galaxy Store has changed exactly nothing for me. All the major apps are still on the Play Store, and *I* get to install apps that are not permitted on the store such as AdGuard for global ads blocking.
 
oh the irony. so a country can set rules for who can sell there and how, but a company can't have rules on how it runs its business model?

too funny.

sure. they are different. sure.
Companies are creations of government that are allowed to exist on the pretext that they benefit society as a whole. Sometimes the government has to make them live up to that pretext a bit more than they usually do.
 
100%! This is a huge mistake. It’s kind of disgusting that the EU can demand things of American companies. Apple shouldn’t have to change their phone or operating system for another region.
And doesn’t the US d
No, you just got virus, unless you paid for very expensive anti-virus software. Then you would still get viruses. Not because you downloaded something, but because your grandma did, and then you got an email from her, with an attachment.
Apple/Mac had less viruses, for 2 reasons, way less market share, less than 5%. So people didn’t take the time to make viruses, and 2, when they did, it was pretty easy for Apple to stay on top and squash it.

With iPhone being close to 50% market share, there will be viruses and security breaches like crazy. You’ll get and email, or a iMessage that will install a fake, App Store or replace a legitimate app, and now you have a virus, that has access to everything, your bank, home security, family members locations, everything.
iOS apps run in sandboxes. That’s not going to change.
 
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I love a government telling me what I can and cannot buy.

I bought an iPhone, in large part, for the security and convenience of all apps coming from a single verifying source.

Now it’s going to become the same Balkanized nonsense that Android is.

Thanks, Europe.

Happens all the time. I would have liked to buy a use an Honor Magic V2 here in the USA. Not happening.
I can get one overseas and ship it here but no one will support it for 5G and many not LTE either. Forget CDMA.

SO it happens. Deal with it even if you don’t like it.
 
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I am still waiting for the EU to require that any hardware allow anyone’s software. Game consoles, you car, everything.

It annoys me that Apple seems to be the only hardware manufacturer that they care about giving hardware access away.
 
Apple needs to do a lot of things to the App Store. For one, finding new apps/games or any other useful type of filtering is sorely needed.
 
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Yes, split the EU from the world..then bring the WW3 and after many years EU will cry about what they have done...Divide yourself and let others conquer
What does this even mean?
europe did not split from the rest of the world apple dud. And I am curious to see how they are going to implement this and the work around- hooooh the work around. Apple lost and stay tuned for the USA to come in force.
 
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reading most of the comments in the favor of apple i cannot help but be disappointed in consumerism culture of today.
while I understand that this might be a bad because it’s basically a back door, but it’s door every body knows about and apple should add a sort of icon when side loading is in use like for when the camera and microphone is.
this comment section is the living proof of why the right to repair is so far behind.
you don’t want option, what you want is trend. A product is supposed to serve a purpose not give you purpose.
i hope to see apple move forward especially with multiple users for ipad. Multiple os ( virtual iOS )
imagine being able to emulate iOS 6-current on you iPad pro m2 or m3.
grant the emulation will not have access to certain thing due to security ( mainly the old safari, and the ability to make purchase.
 
This will compromise iPhone security.

Some apps will not submit to the App Store in order to drive all sales to their outside store to increase profits.

Others apps will stay outside to avoid Apple review process. Bugs and deliberate surveillance will run rampant.

Fake apps will proliferate outside with no oversight.

Welcome to your diminished privacy and acct security world.

Big mistake EU. Big.

My iMac is perfectly secure. No issues whatsoever with side loading here.
 
We will see if EU is happy for Apple to do, yet again, surprise, preferential treatment specifically for EU and nowhere else.

Hats off to EU to send a clear and strong message to Apple and alike: the world does not revolve around you and you are NOT the life’s main character. It’s not like US and EU had been played along well from 2016 to 2020 either.

I do have to give some credit for Apple successfully brainwashed enough customers to support their “sideloading = evil” narrative. It just gets to show again how insanely and terrifyingly powerful megacorps have become to our lives. “You are not you, and you must be happy.
 
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We will see if EU is happy for Apple to do, yet again, surprise, preferential treatment specifically for EU and nowhere else.

Hats off to EU to send a clear and strong message to Apple and alike: the world does not revolve around you and you are NOT the life’s main character. It’s not like US and EU had been played along well from 2016 to 2020 either.

I do have to give some credit for Apple successfully brainwashed enough customers to support their “sideloading = evil” narrative. It just gets to show again how insanely and terrifyingly powerful megacorps have become to our lives. “You are not you, and you must be happy.
The EU’s power stops within its borders. They can suck a big fat one trying to influence policy in the US.
 
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