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Oops, now I see the silicone case options

Seems like they're updating things by the minute. When I go to the compare iPhone page, it says that the 16 E does indeed have SOS or satellite connectivity. Never mind :)
see probably shoulda researched a lil more or waited more patiently.
Seems like that’s at least 1 feature Apple won’t remove or compromise on
 
They say it increases battery life substantially. Thus, the first version exceeds the Broadcom chip already!
I'm not sure I'm completely buying it. The C1 modem chip probably contributes to increased battery life, yes, but the phone is also much larger, and likely has a much larger battery to match. My guess is much of the improved battery life is due to that.

That said, it also has a claimed battery life longer than the iPhone 16.

iPhone 14 discontinued?
It was discontinued last year in several markets. And it's now discontinued everywhere.
 
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iPhone 14 discontinued?
Unfortunately yes
Entire 14 line discontinued
SE 3rd Gen discontinued

And though not announced
I for imagine the supply
and offerings in any places that still
had em will dry up fast for
the iPhone 12 and iPhone 13
( as of this reply Cricket , some
Boost and some Total Wireless stores
We’re still offering the 12, 13 and SE3 )
 
Agreed heck in spite of what
Some naysayers, the company
Or Tim Cook say
I feel like the iPhone 11, 8, XR
12 , 13 and SE 2 & 3
All hold up pretty well and work pretty well of course some better than others but still all solid devices for their ages
You're right. The chips in these phones have been overkill for most people for years now. You need to run benchmarks to even know there's a difference. The only practical benefit is improved power efficiency, not performance.
 
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You’re probably right, but on this Forum LOTS of us want a smaller phone! I guess we’re all geeks.
I think the issue is Apple always treated the smaller phone as a 'cheaper crappier version of a big phone', rather than a product in its own right, with innovations or features uniquely suited to a small phone. Consider a tweaked, more focused UI, a rear side swiper surface, or other things fitting that setup. Maybe, god forbid, something less slippery to highlight one-handed use.

The Palm phone shows some potential in that approach.
 
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At this price point, it will be an iPhone 5c level success.
That would be a big, BIG win for Apple. The iPhone 5c was #2 / #3 in sales in the US for several months. The other two phones in the top three were the iPhone 5S and the Samsung Galaxy S4.


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The uncle who comes for Thanksgiving half drunk, takes cash from your room on his way to the toilet and grabs your teenage daughter's ass when hugging goodbye.
That was an oddly specific
comparison and awkward to
read in a thread about
questionable Apple product decisions
💀
 
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Ok I laugh my ass even more.
On official Apple website / Apple Store there is no way to compare this 16e (in reality so called 11Pro+) with 11Pro - just 11, 12, 12mini, SE2 and SE3 are available.
 
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Apparently just wanted to create a truly budget offering for carriers to toss out to people, or use as a price anchor to drive upgrades to something much better
I dunno how much of an offering it is for that but the whole
“eSIM ONLY for US PR &
Mexican models” while others can still get dual SIM
does make it seem like
Apple and the carriers just wanted
some sort of “budget”
or just lower price point device
Design, specs and other decisions be damned
 
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Apple today introduced the iPhone 16e,
...
In addition, the iPhone 16e lacks MagSafe.
$600, which is more than I'd care to pay. Larger phone, which is not what I'd care to have in my pocket. But I probably would've talked myself into it, were it not for their decision to leave off MagSafe.

So I'm out.

I guess, when they finally get bad enough, we'll simply re-battery our iPhone SE (2020)'s.

I think I'll do that with my Apple Watch SE, too, and not bother upgrading that, this year, either.

I'm becoming a bit dis-enamored of Apple, lately.

In fact: Due to this decision on Apple's part: The Apple MagSafe charger I bought, on the expectation the "new SE" would have MagSafe, will be returned to the store for a non-MagSafe, non-Apple charger costing about 1/3 the price.
 
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I was considering the iPhone 16e as an "upgrade" from my iPhone 13 Pro, mainly as a stopgap until Apple releases a more interesting premium device like an iPhone Air or Flip. The idea of a larger OLED display, improved battery life, and a 48MP camera made it seem like a decent option.

However, the missing features and price point make this a non-starter for me. The lack of MagSafe is disappointing, and while the new C1 modem sounds promising, I’d rather wait and see how it performs in real-world use before making the jump. The binned GPU is another concern, especially when coming from a Pro model.

As for Apple Intelligence support, it’s just not that interesting to me—at least for now. I don’t see it offering anything compelling enough to justify an upgrade. Starting at $599, the iPhone 16e doesn’t strike the right balance of price and features, so I’d rather stick with my iPhone 13 Pro and wait for something truly innovative.
 
I was considering the iPhone 16e as an "upgrade" from my iPhone 13 Pro, mainly as a stopgap until Apple releases a more interesting premium device like an iPhone Air or Flip. The idea of a larger OLED display, improved battery life, and a 48MP camera made it seem like a decent option.

However, the missing features and price point make this a non-starter for me. The lack of MagSafe is disappointing, and while the new C1 modem sounds promising, I’d rather wait and see how it performs in real-world use before making the jump. The binned GPU is another concern, especially when coming from a Pro model.

As for Apple Intelligence support, it’s just not that interesting to me—at least for now. I don’t see it offering anything compelling enough to justify an upgrade. Starting at $599, the iPhone 16e doesn’t strike the right balance of price and features, so I’d rather stick with my iPhone 13 Pro and wait for something truly innovative.
Luckily the 17 and 17 Pro are coming this year. Apple is perfectly happy to wait for you to spend even more money on one of those.
 
I guess, when they finally get bad enough, we'll simply re-battery our iPhone SE (2020)'s.



I'm becoming a bit dis-enamored of Apple, lately.
Welcome to the club
And yea I think sticking
With resell and or repairs on
the older phones may be the
route to go until Apple can start
hitting home runs again.

Sad since the “16E” shouldabeem
SE4 had a fair bit of potential
 
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For the base model price of 599 dollars, this equates to £476.40 at the current exchange rate. Whereas the base model in the UK is £599 :mad: I know there will be some import duties on the phone, along with shipping charges, but they certainly won't add up to £122.60 Apple!!
The phones are shipped from Asia anyway. So there should not be higher duties or shipping, regardless of whether they go to the US or Europe. If anything, US duties might be higher.
 
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People complaining about a price increase sound seriously entitled, lol. All these tech improvements (SoC, modem, battery, larger display, OLED, USB-C, camera, FaceID, satellite connectivity to name a few) for a measly $100 price increase? We’ve had about 30% compounded inflation in the last several years, so this is actually more like a price cut. Apple (and us shareholders) have eaten the cost of inflation for far too long! These will sell like hotcakes, and be free with carrier promotions / trade-in.
Sorry but you sound like 1 of those shareholders…
And some of us would be more
Ok with the price if certain missteps and questionable decisions weren’t made.
Personally I don’t mind the price but when paired with other problems the phone has going for it before release
it’s not the easiest sell to as many as some seem to think
 
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The phones are shipped from Asia anyway. So there should not be higher duties or shipping, regardless of whether they go to the US or Europe. If anything, US duties might be higher.
Which kinda is concerning
If you’re looking to say import
a foreign version solely for
the Physical SIM Capabilities
 
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