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People whinging about the iMac like it's some pro-level machine: it's not. It's great up to a point (a point that will satisfy the needs of a great many users, I would add), but if you need more than 24 GB of RAM, you probably also want an M3 Pro or Max machine anyway. It seems Apple has decided that that tier of user is going to want a separate monitor and CPU.

I would love a 27" 5K iMac M3 too, but it ain't happening ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Darth, there's no way this is "Apple's last iMac" - it's a great machine for the demographic needing it. It's just too bad there's not one in black to match your evening wear. :D

Regarding advantages "over an MBA with monitor", I would say for sure, yes, an iMac in use has the following:

(1) it feels less wasteful when chosing to use a custom or larger keyboard and/or trackpad/mouse combination when using an iMac vs a laptop;

(2) the installation of an iMac or an iMac + external display looks and feels more permanent in an office, studio, or lab environment;

(3) if being used by people who might damage a laptop by spilling drinks on it or dropping Ritz cracker crumbs in the keyboard all day long, iMac with external keyboard wins by far;

(4) if in an environment where someone might try to walk away with a laptop or play with plugging and unplugging cables, iMac is easier to secure in my experience;

(5) better not having to look/shift focus between a relatively large external display and a relatively small MBA display when using the Mac for daily office work over extended periods (laptop in extended display mode);

(6) the ability to have more desk space available if using the iMac, especially when VESA-mounted;

(7) the ability to have two floating displays of similar external dimensions when pairing an iMac 24" with a Studio Display/LG UltraFine or similar, especially if both are VESA-mounted; and

(8) the price of a 1TB/16GB MBA is going to be around $1900 whereas the price of a similarly-spec'd iMac is going to be $2100 which means you get a way better display for only $200 more.

I have and currently use several combinations of iMacs and MacBook Airs and external displays —and have been doing so for many years— so those thoughts above are just based on my own experience. There are indeed times when an MBA + external display are the best solution, but that wasn't the question I was answering. Aloha.
Great lists of reasons there.

I think that the iMac has got life in it, so long as the traditional 'PC' windows / pointer paradigm is around.

In the medium to long term future though, I wonder if Apple's vision for 'big screen' computing is to wear a vision pro (or just 'vision'). We'll see.

I can certainly see the iMac surving through to 2030. Beyond that, is anyone's guess.

P.S. That means that the iMac will be just over 30 years old as a product. And I can remember its launch as if it were yesterday. Ulp.
 
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The only reason I'm having doubts about buying this new iMac is the lack of the integrated optical audio out. I use that for the connection too my surround sound set. On my 27" iMac (late 2013) this was standard build in.
 
Do we think that Apple would ever make this pass through so it could be used as a monitor ? Think for Xbox in the kids rooms, great first pc but Xbox is kinda needed too
 
Yeah, realized that afterwards. Kind of silly.

People do love to blow this out of proportion though. At the end of the day, I've still got multiple Lightning devices around anyway so it would hardly be a deal-breaker to have to continue charging my Magic Keyboard with the color-matched Lightning cable that comes in the box. It's gonna be plugged in anyway since I have AirPods Pro and Max that charge that way.

Hell, I've got crap that charges with micro USB still. It would be wasteful and stupid to replace perfectly good gear to chase the boring goal of charging everything with one cable.

I mean I justify it in my mind just like you (I bought a M3 iMac last night) but honestly... Apple is the most valuable company in the world and it would have been trivial for them to update the peripherals and would help make the argument of moving to USB-C they have been pushing all year. The fact they didn't is just one of those things that frustrates even long time fans of Apple. I suspect what is really happening is that the late 2024 to mid 2025 launch of M4 will bring a chassis redesigned 24 inch iMac and now once again rumored addition of a 27-32 inch iMac plus new peripherals, perhaps with subtle redesigns (and USB-C).
 
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24 inch iMac does NOT have a cooling system. Yeah, two fans but they are not even connected to M1 via heat pipes which makes it pointless. If M3 version also have fan-less design, then M1 iMac is still worth it especially since most of 24 inch iMac users will satisfy with M1's performance anyway.
 
This 24" crap does not replace a 27" iMac.
I don't think they have any intention of doing that, and why would they? That would compete with the Studio Display, they want to sell you a MacBook, Mac Mini, or Mac Studio AND the studio display.
 
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It's just amazing to me that Apple simply doesn't turn the 27" Studio Display into an iMac. It is so overbuild already it seems like it would take next to no work at all to turn it into an iMac. I guess maybe one day but last night made it sound like 24 inch is all get in foreseeable future.
 
Thinking over who the target market now is for the iMac:

Older people (40+) who have always used a desktop, have a nice desk for it and a home office & use the iMac for light productivity/ creativity (family photos & videos).

Older professionals who have always … you get the idea - and use it for writing, invoicing etc.

Receptions at fancy hotels, media companies and design advertising agencies for reasons of style.

(All of whom will likely be fine with the base level model.)

Apart from the above, I struggle to see who else the iMac is now for.
Damn 40+ is considered older now. I'm 55 I better start picking out my grave site...lol.
 
I really wish Apple would come up with a 27 or 32 inch iMac. I love the iMac and when you're an old fart like me, you want a BIGGER screen for your old and tired eyes.
 
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Those iMacs have an idiotic design.
No, it’s not. It’s actually quite nice and futuristic looking. Not everything has to be boring black or silver.
I really wish Apple would come up with a 27 or 32 inch iMac. I love the iMac and when you're an old fart like me, you want a BIGGER screen for your old and tired eyes.
I’m upgrading from a 2011 21.5 iMac so the 24 iMac will give me 20 percent more display area. The M3 is not only faster than M1 or M2, but also has a new neural engine and hardware ray tracing which I’ll appreciate for my 3D modelling. All that in a package thats little bigger than my current iMac. And they didn’t increase the price.
 
It's just amazing to me that Apple simply doesn't turn the 27" Studio Display into an iMac. It is so overbuild already it seems like it would take next to no work at all to turn it into an iMac. I guess maybe one day but last night made it sound like 24 inch is all get in foreseeable future.
Yes, it's obvious that what was shipped as a display was designed to be the real successor of 27" iMacs. Then some f. greedy marketing "genius" decided it was better to strip it of the cpu and sell a separate box with it to double the profit. Hate those greedy marketers.
 
The horrible mouse and keyboard still use Lightning. Couldn't even have bothered to change out the port on the bottom of the mouse? That's really phoning it in.
Its got USB C at one end and its not like it really needs USB C at both ends, if you have USB C ports it will fit them.
 
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Pretty sure Apple is a big enough company to do both at the same time
And yet it turns out they are not. Focus is a good thing for Apple, or anyone smaller. They're doing too many things, and importantly the TV market was already saturated and didn't need them—all of the streaming apps from everyone else are available on Apple's platforms. As a company they should have put more focus on Siri, iCloud and hardware, and stop pussyfooting about with TV shows.

If they wanted the living room market they should have focused on gaming for Apple TV hardware, and renamed it Apple Home—the centre of your home (AAA games & streaming apps). And went about it in such a way that those same AAA games would work across Mac too (with a company-wide goal of fixing the glaring Mac gaming problem). Develop a legit first-party controller, to show to developers and users they are finally serious about gaming (while continuing to support other mainstream controllers for those who want them) and a TV hardware version of Apple Home for those who want an all-in-one solution for their living room. Puck version (Apple Home) and a TV version (Apple Home Pro), powered with M and M-Pro chips successively.

And innovate—give both products magnetic charging for the remote, like Apple Pencil has. Tell them when the remote is below 15% battery and allow them to stick the remote to the top of the Apple Home or the side of Apple Home Pro and have it charge MagSafe-style. Allow it to charge in standby mode (day and night). Be clever and keep room at the top end of the built-in battery for the remote, to have the battery last much longer over time, and have the outside casing be rubber, so the remote can be dropped on hard floors without breaking or causing a lot of noise, make the TV remote a larger to give it a good size battery and be more ergonomic in the hand. Make exciting stuff by solving real user problems in innovative ways—focus! TV shows were and continue to be nothing but a distraction for a company that has lost focus.
 
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