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Apple Argued Safari Is Three Different Browsers to Avoid Regulation
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I'm hereby making the argument that Apple is indeed three different companies. One makes hardware, the second software and the third provides retail stores.
Or maybe Safari is just three people in a trenchcoat
Or maybe Safari is just three people in a trenchcoat
My Windows computer is actually 172 distinct devices. It is a calculator. It is a canvas. It is a typewriter. It is a weather machine. It is a... You know, it's probably just quicker to list the thing that it's not.
And it's now immune from prosecution!
And it's now immune from prosecution!
To be fair, Apple has used this excuse before. Steve Jobs used to claim every single version of macOS 10 had "a new Finder" when all they ever did was just increase the version number, or add some minor new feature. So by the time Panther rolled around, we already were on our third Finder!
They should have just claimed each new version of Safari was "a distinct browser," that at least would make a tiny bit more sense.
They should have just claimed each new version of Safari was "a distinct browser," that at least would make a tiny bit more sense.
So crushing regulations should be handed by more regulation?
Depending on how it identifies on that particular day? Stop trying to put Safari in a binary box.
Only if you pay smart lawyers to be yes men walk with your mom all the way to the bank, as that won’t convince a judge
That’s kind of irrelevant when they didn’t use such a galaxy brain argument.
The fact you can’t even do that makes it kind of ironic. Especially when 100% of iOS browsers use WebKit
Thats ludicrous and you know it.
Forcing incompatible software to work=//= allowing compatible software to be written by third parties
Well, EU couldn’t care less about Apple’s revenue, just like if one day CCP decides to completely kick Apple out of China. Apple needs EU more than EU needs Apple.
Seems that folks defending Apple’s move runs out of ideas just as hard as those lawyers poaching the argument “there are three safari browsers”.
Safari 1 snores
safari 2 has bad breathe
safari 3 wants a
cup of tea
safari 2 has bad breathe
safari 3 wants a
This will just lead to more security vulnerabilities on iOS and iPadOS. Have fun with that. I’m a senior web developer and I see no upside to using Chrome on the Mac, aside from the fact that we must test it for website development because so many people use it. I find Safari to be more performant, use less battery, and have the best privacy and security protections baked in. The only practical difference is that Chrome tends to have more or better extensions because its extension platform has been more capable for longer and they have so many more users so that’s where development is focused. I switched to Safari years ago and haven’t looked back. I rarely even use Google. I use a combination of DDG and ChatGPT, with Google as a last resort.
The only time I use Google is to measure web page performance, and that’s only because Google has a stranglehold monopoly on the search market and they get to dictate how all SEO works, including performance.
The only time I use Google is to measure web page performance, and that’s only because Google has a stranglehold monopoly on the search market and they get to dictate how all SEO works, including performance.
No, we are people who want to like Apple and praise what's good while critiquing what's bad. For us to spend time on here, the good is more than the bad. When they say/do stupid stuff or outright lie, we call them out. I think it's fair and someone has to do it, I mean they get away with too much already as it is. I can't imagine how it'd be if we stopped.
And what do you think is going to happen to this percentage in the US when the most popular phone changes from being webkit only? Again, replacing a context specific monopoly (just iOS users, Webkit) with a global monopoly... (Chromium, so Edge, Chrome, Arc, etc...)
As I said in my original post, I usually side with the EU, but I find this move to be extremely short sighted. How could they even go about breaking up the Chrome monopoly this will create when Google isn't headquartered in Europe? This isn't like USB-C where there's no downside to forcing companies to comply... This isn't a case where "the best browser will win," Google already makes using many of their websites annoying with non-chromium browsers and even browsers that aren't google chrome. And it's so popular now many websites don't even bother to test if their code runs correctly on Safari or Firefox. This will just get worse.
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So which is it? If the good people of the EU will not miss it. Then there isn't much to be made there long term. Apple leaving sooner rather than later makes sense. Sell near the EU and let them source it by other means than local.
Security issues? No. It'll be subject to the same sandbox rules as other apps.
Tracking? Mandating the use of WebKit won't alleviate tracking by 3rd party browsers.
Apple had decades to create a better browser than Chrome. Instead, it tried to go one up by stifling competition. Nobody has to be blamed but Apple for its sorry state today re browser wars.
Safari fails while other browsers work co… - Apple Community
Just one instance. You just need to Google it.
The EU's job is not to make sure competitors are successful or not, merely that they can compete without being locked out in a monopolistic way.
Safari will continue to exist, and you will still be able to use it if you prefer. Which browser anyone else chooses to use, is none of your concern.
It is bizarre that people can get so emotionally caught up with wanting everyone else to use the same stuff as them. Don't be a hater, live and let live.
As if iOS isn't already a cesspool of garbage.
And Chrome has a stack of functionality and tools that Safari simply doesn't have. You might not want or need them, but some of us do, e.g. their dev tools are essential for a web dev.