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Apple Cancels Electric Car Project
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I mentioned that earlier. Universal batteries that can be swapped at service stations would be ideal from a user perspective.
Wonder how that would account for various battery capacities.
It would have to be a standardized system, no? Batteries would all have the same capacity and the stations would verify their overall health while charging them.
And I will ask on the same ICE powered trip how much time is used doing he same.
For me personally a stop for gas, bio etc is going to be 20-30 mins easy. I stop at say a bucees to get gas it is 5 mins to get gas, 15-20 mins in the store and about few mins of walking time.
If you flipped that to an EV. It would be 1 minute getting the car plugged in 15-20 mins in the store and then few minutes of walking time. 30 sec unplugging the car.
Noticed that a good chunk of the is doubled up.
Hence why total trip time only increasing by 30-40 mins.
That is roughly the same increase I found on an 8 hour drive. 30-40 min total increase as so much is doubled up. The longest stop also happens to be my lunch stop so again long deep charging non issue as it is all doubled duty.
Which leads to interesting problems, imo. Example, the Silverado EV has a 212 kWh battery, which clearly won't fit in say the Blazer EV. So would there have to be different stations for each vehicle class?
Frankly I never wanted a self-driving car so I could film blogs as an influencer while the car drives itself right into a brick wall.
I see the potential benefit of someone being sick to have a vehicle self drive to an emergency medical center but the everyday "vehicle drives itself to your destination" it's nothing I ever really wanted.
For Apple to spit itself into segments to try and make a vehicle - this might be the right decision for them.
I see the potential benefit of someone being sick to have a vehicle self drive to an emergency medical center but the everyday "vehicle drives itself to your destination" it's nothing I ever really wanted.
For Apple to spit itself into segments to try and make a vehicle - this might be the right decision for them.
Maybe larger vehicles use multiple batteries?
I mean, I’m just spitballing. It may not be a practical solution at all.
As for battery “sourcing” - that world is changing, just as electronics are not only sourced in China alone anymore.
Yes, range drops in the cold and that has put the rollout of EVs to a grinding hole in Norway - no, wait, they’re leading the world in EV adoption.
As for fast charging, show statistical data that proves your claim, I’ve seen many reports saying the opposite.
Got some figures or references to back that up, or is this just a hunch you have?
Just so you know, your average car engine contains several quarts of toxic waste that gets changed out and discarded every few months -- for the entire lifetime of the vehicle. It also regularly needs to get filled up with many gallons of toxic waste on a very frequent basis -- waste that gets very inefficiently incinerated and then pumped right back out the tailpipe into the atmosphere. If you don't believe me, try running yours in an enclosed space for a while and see what happens
If you don’t believe me, try running the power plant that is required to generate the electricity to recharge your car in an enclosed space for a while and see what happens 🙂
PS you are changing your oil too often.
Renault tried this in France Amy e 10 or so years ago, didn’t work out, I think they leased out the battery…
The idea isn’t bad, but piles up a whole new set of logistical challenges and obviously you need more batteries than vehicles. And then the necessary standardization…
Hydrogen is definitely a superior solution if you ignore all the reasons why it is in fact worse.
Hydrogen will play an important role in industry (e.g. ammonia production) and in some transportation applications (maybe long-range trucking, ocean shipping) where good alternatives are lacking, but not consumer vehicles. H2 production and distribution are hugely problematic.
Except there aren’t enough working chargers to facilitate your scenario, as born out time and again by the fact that people have EV’s for around town, and an ICE for trips beyond town. EV’s are being forced on consumers mostly be government edict, and are being rejected because they aren’t practical for the needs of the consumer. The market will solve it in due course, but we’re still decades away, especially with respect to trucks of any size.
I love my electric mower, blower and trimmer, but the way I need to use a vehicle for personal transportation for work, an EV just won’t work. Objectively, I understand why consumers don’t want them…yet.
And what is going to warm the battery that powers the warmer?? Another battery???
See where this is going?
We all have different needs, my EV perfectly fits mine, on daily commute and also on long trips,neither you nor I are representative of the total market…
Yes actually electric cars are NOT the future cars anyway.
They are NOT safe to drive and are poorly made, even Tesla's cars are not safe to drive.
It's amazing how every piddly little thing is suddenly a show stopper for some people. All you'd need is some 110v outlets at street level to keep the cars warm, and basic law enforcement to keep idiots from unplugging them.
So now that it was shown the entire argument on it takes to long is BS you move on to that one.
The speed argument for time for an EV is not as big of an issue for long trips as people like you are claiming and that has been proven time and time again.
We have a infrastructure problem which needs to be addressed. No debate there it needs to be addressed.
Also we need to build it out. Like it or not the WORLD has spoken and EV are the way forward. Right or wrong that is the direction the world is going. That means more and more manufactures are shifting over to EVs. Most of them has stop continuing ICE R&D and stop development of new ICE engines. They are improving existing ones but have more or less stated for cars the tech is a dead end and moved on to something else.
Either wya we know the world is moving over to EVs. So our choices now are either build up the infrastructure or being in a world of pain in the next 10 years. Take your pick their is no inbetween.
Batteries are a wear item so, if you swap, you have no idea of the battery condition and how far you can travel on it.
The batteries are also very heavy and take up a lot of space. Vehicles would have to be redesigned for battery swaps, the swap center would need a place to safely store the batteries, you would need some way of putting the battery in the car. and batteries lose charge when they are sitting.
Also, how many batteries should the swap center keep in stock and how are they expected to charge all the batteries they get back ?
Lastly, the batteries are very expensive and a swap center would never be able to afford the batteries that are needed.
Swapping batteries might sound like a good idea but it's a bad idea.
Has anyone done the math on how many public chargers would be needed if ALL cars were electric?
Like on a busy travel day when people are trying to drive long distances?
I haven't, but it seems like a lot.
Pumping gas takes like 5 minutes, so if charging requires anywhere from 6-10 times longer, it seems like we would need 6-10 times as many charging stations as we have gas pumps now.
Like on a busy travel day when people are trying to drive long distances?
I haven't, but it seems like a lot.
Pumping gas takes like 5 minutes, so if charging requires anywhere from 6-10 times longer, it seems like we would need 6-10 times as many charging stations as we have gas pumps now.
That's right. Every law on the books needs its own separate police force. One cop for window smashing, another for graffiti, a third for littering... ugg.