But a charging station is literally two square feet behind any existing parking space. A gas station is 100x larger, requires massive underground tanks, delivery by tanker truck, and periodic wars in the middle east. The needed infrastructure is laughingly small compared to things we have already done.
All of that is true of a massive except that instead of underground tanks you need a relatively close power plant that can efficiently transmit power to the station. Those power stations need a fuel source. And since for whatever stupid reason we’re against modern nuclear plants, the closet thing ever to net neutral or whatever stupid made up name is associated with it this week, you‘re still going to have “periodic wars in the Middle East” to power those stations.
Do not confuse total power usage vs peak power usage. Most of that increase in demand is during off peak and base load increases. Our system is designed for peak demand and EVs do not add that much to peak demend.
Not to long ago most homes did not have AC yet we handled that massive and rapid increase in power demands just fine.
Our systems are design to accommodate peak demand by running in a constant state and then ramping up when peak is needed. Taking plant offline temporarily or worse permanently breaks the original design. Things are not good right now in the power generation/distribution market.
That is why a lot of those system have a BMS that will heat up the battery pack to temperature that can be charge at. Modern EVs have an active BMS heating/Cooling system. Lets take the case you pull into a place to charge with a cold soak battery. It will first turn on the car's heater from the external power source and start heating the battery pack to get it up to a temp and then as allowed start putting more power into the battery pack which increasing the packs temp which allows it to push in more power into a feed back loop to the temp the car likes.
This is even in places that it drops to -40. It can work but nothing works well at -40.
Basically not as big of a big deal as already solved for. It is called use the BMS to heat up the pack. When driving and the car knows it is going to be a charger it will start pre heating the pack to get it at a temp range to speed up charging.
Thanks for proving @IG88’s point.
Now separate out Mustang’s and Pinto’s as I originally stated. Oh, and don’t worry, EV fire’s will pick up significantly once those vehicles start aging.
Our Q4 e-tron catches fire at least a couple of times a week, and I’ve lost count how many 20 grand battery replacements I have had to purchase. We have a bit of a game going in our street where we place bets whose EV is going to catch fire each morning, I’m leading.
Give me a 90 quid to fill diesel with a cam belt, dual mass flywheel change and a clogged DPF over an EV any day of the week.
I’ll wake up in a minute and realise I’ve absorbed a shed load of social media propaganda and speaking it out of my rear end before too long.
Check back in on us in 6 years and let us know how everything is going. 😄
This is reading a headline and not bothering to read the content and not factual.
Ford didn't lose money because of electric cars - and for all car makers, year over year sales of models is UP. Early adopters did drive wait lists and demand - that is true. Everyone is cutting back production because of over estimating forecasts and supply chain issues have settled.
Also another reality to consider - that magical think we tap out of the ground called crude oil? Forget that the earth is on fire for a moment - we are going to run out - and within 20-40 years - which is about the time it will take to convert cars globally to something that isn't using fossil fuels.
There things are impacting faster adoption of electric:
1. Charging infrastructure (needed mainly for distance trips and people who don't have a drive way to put in a charger) - and it's coming.
2. Charging time
3. Cost (confusing rebate program, expensive costs to make batteries, and retail prices a bit too high) - which are all being addressed.
Drive an electric car - it will put your gas guzzler to shame.
So we’re to ignore what I said because it was true, but we need to accept everything you said because, “the world is on fire.” Makes sense to me.
Now let's see a stat that shows how many of each car has spontaneously combusted without introduction of an external ignition source.
No to mention the efforts needed to put those fires out when they do happen. Flatbed owners are starting to catch on and do not want to put an EV that’s been in a sever accident on their trucks. You could go 3 miles down the road and have an unstoppable fire strapped down to the back of your service vehicle.
Probably rare for any type of car I’d imagine. I’d expect vehicles carrying tanks full of flammable liquid to still be far ahead per 100.
Give it some time grasshopper. You think there are little amount of fires now, wait until all these EV’s get some wear and tear on them. Seals start deteriorating and water gets in to places it was never meant to be. As the kids say, “It’ll be lit, yo!” 😄
No one wants them. Why do I see more and more of them on the road then? Are people being taken at gun point to showrooms and forced to buy them?
Not at the moment, but they are given several thousand dollars of our tax money. The whole “at gunpoint” won’t be for another 10-15 years if the green people have their way.
Not everybody lives in America mate. The rest of the World has evolved elsewhere in the automotive sector believe it or not.
True, most other countries do not cover the same distance, nor do they have the same economic freedoms that we have here. Rarely do you see a family of 5 or 6 packing up the family Mini in Europe to take the kids to a hockey tournament 4-500 miles away for the weekend. Or towing the boat to the lake, or the dirt bikes and side by side, or hunting trip, etc. They’re just fine puttering around in there Mini’s.
I’m guessing you’re not an engineer or have no common sense.
Electric cars use 8X more carbon to produce, are very expensive and it’s just getting more expensive since the materials to make batteries are not abundant. Have you seen the destruction a mine does?
Even the best batteries don’t last more than 8 years and the value of your car goes to nothing (look how much a used Nissan Leaf costs).
Electric vehicles have no torque. Range goes by half or a third when pulling weight.
Ranger anxiety…
I can go on and on but this I’m sure many will be triggered from their high horses thinking they’re saving the environment by virtue signaling.
I think you meant horsepower. EV’s have tons of torque, just no horsepower. Everything else is spot on. 👍