I am a "skip all cutscenes" gamer and I shake my head at the amount of time and money they put into the cinematic sequences. It's a game. I want to play it. It is not a movie, no matter how much you try to make it into one.
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Apple CAN’T do AAA gaming [Merged Megathread]
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So? Mac gaming created a long time ago and yet only a few players use Mac for gaming. That's totally different. Many games stop supporting macOS and there aren't any new games at all.
Whut? There are new games with Mac support being released all the time. And what are these games that "stop supporting Mac"?
Apple isn't really doing well for Mac. Not only because PC games aren't supported but also the fact that iOS/iPadOS game apps aren't even supported on macOS. There are no major mobile games which you also can play on Mac. Among Us is a great example of poor optimization.
If many major mobile games support macOS natively with better support, then it would be better than before OR bring AAA games to Apple Arcade. Nintendo Switch is a great example. It has poor hardware performance and yet, they have their own titles to compete. Yes, Apple need more killer titles for macOS or Apple Arcade to solve this platform problem.
If many major mobile games support macOS natively with better support, then it would be better than before OR bring AAA games to Apple Arcade. Nintendo Switch is a great example. It has poor hardware performance and yet, they have their own titles to compete. Yes, Apple need more killer titles for macOS or Apple Arcade to solve this platform problem.
Fortnite, Rocket League, and more. Tell me new games for AS after Apple Silicon transition? Dont tell me WOW or EVE since they were released a long time ago. Also, mobile apps dont count.
Baldurs gate 3 is not even released yet. Total War Warhammer 3? That's it? Only 2? Also, Total War Warhammer 3 released in 2016 and then ported to Mac so not really a new game.
Uh Warhammer 3 came out in February this year... The Mac port hasn't actually been released yet but word on the street is it will be coming out this month.
BG3 is in Early Access and can be played now. I posted about a game being out and native M1 on Steam but I forget the name of the game.
Doesnt change the fact that they ported 6 years old game to Mac.
Early access does not mean it's fully released.
But overall, that's only 2 new games which is very chaotic compared to Intel Mac era especially since Intel Mac can use bootcamp to access all Windows games.
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Same. Except I play games on console. With some iPhone games mixed it.
Trying to game on a Mac is like trying to be a home builder and haul lumber with a Toyota Prius. You can do it under certain conditions but why would you?
As a game developer why would you make a PC game for Mac? So you want to market a game to someone who likes PC games but doesn't have a Windows PC? You will spend the same amount of money making it for maybe 10% of the sales (Yes that's extremely optimistic) compared to the Windows version?
As someone who really likes playing PC games why would you not have a Windows PC?
Apple can capture some game market with casual gamers but the vast majority of serious PC gamers have a Windows PC... I know some are stuck on Linux but most of them even have seen the light. If Apple was to make a push to gaming it would have to be a different customer with different games than the traditional PC gamers. It's just not worth it to put a separate team for each game to make a Mac version. Now if they can do something like 1Password did with their electron app and make it where one team can make multiple versions then that would work. I don't think it's possible for games but I'm not a programmer so IDK.
As a game developer why would you make a PC game for Mac? So you want to market a game to someone who likes PC games but doesn't have a Windows PC? You will spend the same amount of money making it for maybe 10% of the sales (Yes that's extremely optimistic) compared to the Windows version?
As someone who really likes playing PC games why would you not have a Windows PC?
Apple can capture some game market with casual gamers but the vast majority of serious PC gamers have a Windows PC... I know some are stuck on Linux but most of them even have seen the light. If Apple was to make a push to gaming it would have to be a different customer with different games than the traditional PC gamers. It's just not worth it to put a separate team for each game to make a Mac version. Now if they can do something like 1Password did with their electron app and make it where one team can make multiple versions then that would work. I don't think it's possible for games but I'm not a programmer so IDK.
You've proven my earlier point with your statement. Trying following along.
I do pretty much the same. Everything but gaming is on my Mac. The only thing I do on my Windows PC is gaming. I prefer macOS so much more than any version of Windows!
It never did and Apple TV isn't Mac gaming. Mac is doomed since Apple is focusing on Mobile gaming so your statement failed.You've proven my earlier point with your statement. Trying following along.
My bad I was talking about 1. Both 1 and 2 on App Store have high negative reviews so I wouldn't say it didnt port well and change the fact that macOS game still lacks game especially after Apple Silicon transition. So tell me, that's it?What 6 year old game are you talking about?
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Oh come on, Fortnine is a very special case and you know it. Rocket League, sure, they seem to drop both the Mac and the Linux version. Same for GW2.
So far we have one game dropped because the developer decided to go on a legal feud agains Apple, another game dropped for pretty much the same reason (Rocket League dev has been acquired by Epic) and another dropped because it is struggling financially and has barely any players left. I am sure you will be able to find some other isolated examples.
I have no idea, there are dozens of new games on Steam being released every day. I am certainly not going to list all of them.
Also, why don't WoW or EVE count? Their native clients have been released after M1 has been available. So by your logic if a game adds support for AS it doesn't count but if a game drops support it does count? That's a weird accounting.
What have I been playing these last few months then? Weird...
Pretty much every Total War game released in the last couple of years has a Mac version. Rome, Troy, Three Kingdoms, the three Warhammer installments... and besides, Total War Warhammer 3 is a brand new game, just came out a couple of weeks ago.
I have those games on Steam and they work just fine. And my M1 Max runs every single game my Intel Mac did, just at much higher settings and with dramatically better performance. Again, no idea what you are trying to say here. That Mac gaming selection is limited? Well, we already knew it. But it definitely didn't get any worse since M1 came out. The amount of games is more or less the same, new titles are released at the same (or slightly higher) rate, and performance is much better.
So you dont know then? Is it hard to say "I dont know"? The fact is Mac after AS transition lack so many games and only few games are AS native. This fact wont change at all and Apple is only focusing on mobile game. Dont expect too much from them.
I am genuinely confused now. Don't know what?
Buddy, I have hundreds of games in my Steam account that work on Mac and I just spend last two hours playing games. What are you talking about? The only thing that Apple Silicon changed for me is that I can now play most of the stuff at 4K with decent graphics. Something that no Mac laptop could do before.
You said "Whut? There are new games with Mac support being released all the time.?" I said what are new games added to Mac after Apple Silicon transition?
Pal, most of them are relying on Rosetta 2. My point is Apple is not interested in Mac gaming and therefore many developers aren't making more new games and then ported to Apple Silicon Mac. I said how many new games support Apple Silicon Mac and yet you are not able to answer it. You see, Mac gaming is abandoned market place. They only care about mobile game markets.
You know what? Only 2.43% of Steam players are Mac users and that percentage has been decreased for a while too. And how many Steam games for Mac are AS native?
Biggest sales that they’ve had ever, and all from the M1 transition. You’re overestimating the importance of gaming.
Diamble Immortal is for mobile and there is no news that it will support macOS. And Diable 4 is NOT supported. First of all, Blizzard stopped updating and supporting many of their games to Mac such as Doable Resurrection.
I strongly disagree. I think they should allocate devs to it similar to what they’re doing with Blender though.