Apple CEO Tim Cook Touts Benefits of Globalization in China Speech

[Alenore]

What a loathsome coward Tim Cook is. Not only does he avoid going on about privacy to China, but he also completely forgets about his other favourite topics such as transgender rights, climate change, equality of women, open borders, etc. (Interested parties are encouraged to check out how those issues are dealt with in Cook's current favourite country.) How very strange! Why doesn't he open a 'dialogue' about these topics? How about pushing to 'educate' the Chinese government regarding these matters? Oh, right: because he's a hypocrite of the highest (or rather lowest) order and that stuff is only useful to sell his toys in this part of the world where it's currently in fashion. Globalization is good for Cook because it allows him to produce his crap cheaper and sell it in more parts of the world. That's not a benefit for the many IMO.

I keep reading here he should stop trying to do politics and just focus on Apple and its products.
Now he's getting flamed because he doesn't focus on politics.

this man cannot win.

 

[litmag01]

What a loathsome coward Tim Cook is. Not only does he avoid going on about privacy to China, but he also completely forgets about his other favourite topics such as transgender rights, climate change, equality of women, open borders, etc. (Interested parties are encouraged to check out how those issues are dealt with in Cook's current favourite country.) How very strange! Why doesn't he open a 'dialogue' about these topics? How about pushing to 'educate' the Chinese government regarding these matters? Oh, right: because he's a hypocrite of the highest (or rather lowest) order and that stuff is only useful to sell his toys in this part of the world where it's currently in fashion. Globalization is good for Cook because it allows him to produce his crap cheaper and sell it in more parts of the world. That's not a benefit for the many IMO.

Those are all great ideals to promote, but is it right for a U.S. Oligarch like Mr. Cook to imperialistically foist social values of any kind while speaking at an economic forum in another country? I think a better argument might be to debate the message he sent to China about globalization.

 

[michaelsviews]

If that's what the law currently allows them to pay to legally satisfy their tax bill, then maybe it's time to look at changing the tax laws.

NO its time to dump the career crooked politicians, elect new ones. Or do away with the political scheme all together

 

[brendu]

You are being sold a bill of goods on this.

Lowering the economic friction between two countries helps the economies of both. It's not a zero-sum game.

Meanwhile, an economic environment with dense borders, each with its own flavor of regulations (rules/tarrifs/beauracracies/quotas/etc) favors the big dogs because they are the only ones with the resources to navigate it at all.

The US is shamefully tilting the rules in favor of people at the top, but not through globalization. The domestic tax laws and unrestricted lobbying do that.

The billionaires are laughing their asses off eveytime some regular schmuck argues in their interests in the name of the little guy.

So what you're saying is instead of Pro globalism billionaires getting all the cake, it's anti globalist billionaires getting all the cake. Meanwhile the working class got ****ed for 20 years under democrats and republicans. So it doesn't really matter who is in power because billionaires will take all the money regardless....

 

[Count Blah]

When faced with a swindler in the Whitehouse, good that Tim still has the big picture together and not get bullied.

Ahhh, so you agree with Tim being a hypocrite here, and Trump should NOT fight for the middle class jobs that have disappeared under the reign of the globalist?

Interesting take, though I don't agree.

 

[lkrupp]

What a hypocrite. Avoids the social and privacy issues when it comes to China. The guy is a BS'er that only believes in $$$$$ .

I got respect for China , they know exactly where they stand and don't kiss anyone's ass unlike cook

Oh, so you have respect for China? Even after you say the wrong thing and you wind up in prison contemplating your execution date? How old are you? 10?
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So what you're saying is instead of Pro globalism billionaires getting all the cake, it's anti globalist billionaires getting all the cake. Meanwhile the working class got ****ed for 20 years under democrats and republicans. So it doesn't really matter who is in power because billionaires will take all the money regardless....

Loving your Marxist ideology. Except, it doesn’t work either.

 

[Glideslope]

Well, there goes any hope of repatriating any of the $250 Billion overseas at 15%.

 

[jkichline]

Its been good to him but not for the thousans, perhaps millions of people who lost their jobs in his own country,

This is the typical argument we see for globalization. It only works well for those on top. And its easy to draw a flattering picture of it, because the top one percent enjoys the benefits and will gladly defend it.

Tim Cook is doing this. He is using his powerfull voice to fight the battle for the elite, against the public.

The App economy created by Apple has actually spurred millions of jobs.
https://actonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2016_State_of_App_Economy.pdf

Simply put, it is not possible today to manufacture cell phones in the U.S. There is NO cellphone manufacturer here (except for Motorola's customization of a cellphone). That's just reality and raw economics and the fact that there are not enough engineers in this country capability of creating factories that could pull this off. not to mention all those who would be whining for working at minimum wage doing manual work on a non-regular schedule to compete against the world economy. When the American workforce wants to compete on a global scale for electronics production, then we can talk. The only way that manufacturing will return to the U.S. is through automation which... will not create the jobs you are looking for.

 

[MistrSynistr]

Globalism is the worst thing that could happen to us, where the super powerful few can now rule over everyone.

What scum. I love these computer devices though.

 

[cube]

The App economy created by Apple has actually spurred millions of jobs.

Wouldn't there be more jobs and taxes paid if you could download apps from alternative sources?

 

[brendu]

Oh, so you have respect for China? Even after you say the wrong thing and you wind up in prison contemplating your execution date? How old are you? 10?
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Loving your Marxist ideology. Except, it doesn’t work either.

Well what I said is true. Billionaires will take all the money they can regardless of who is in power. Prove me wrong.

 

[MH01]

Oh, so you have respect for China? Even after you say the wrong thing and you wind up in prison contemplating your execution date? How old are you? 10?
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Loving your Marxist ideology. Except, it doesn’t work either.

Read what I wrote, I respect the fact they don't sell out , even if thier stance is completely wrong.

Unlike Cook that is a total hypocrite when dealing with China . Seems like social issues like gay rights, transgender etc is only for 1st world countries, what a joke. The people what need the most support in terms of these issues, don't live in 1st world countries. He practically kisses thier butt so he can make $$$$$. Very simple.

 

[pickaxe]

I keep reading here he should stop trying to do politics and just focus on Apple and its products.
Now he's getting flamed because he doesn't focus on politics.

this man cannot win.

These aren't mutually exclusive. I don't think the guy you quoted attacked him for not focusing on politics, but rather for (allegedly) being a hypocrite. Apple CEOs and Apple in general were mostly apolitical until Tim Cook, it is Cook that decided to make political statements and publicly push for a focus on "social issues". The problem is that he won't dare do it when China is concerned, suggesting a lack of spine.

Which of course wouldn't have been perceived as an issue if he just kept quiet in the first place, and kept away from politics.

 

[gertruded]

Apple has morphed into a traitor to our country. Moving most their operations and investments to China.

It is time for Americans to treat Apple for what it really is.

 

[apolloa]

Benefits? Theirs only one and that's reduced costs and more profits from that.

 

[potatis]

Whats this nonsense. Release some hardware instead.

 

[iSee]

So what you're saying is instead of Pro globalism billionaires getting all the cake, it's anti globalist billionaires getting all the cake. Meanwhile the working class got ****ed for 20 years under democrats and republicans. So it doesn't really matter who is in power because billionaires will take all the money regardless....

It certainly does matter who's in power. But if you think the question is Republican vs. Democrat you've already lost. We are letting corporations and the people who run them write the rules and they sure do write them in their own favor.
(BTW, if you have to start that many sentences with "so" it's a good sign you are missing the point.)

 

[modemthug]

When faced with a swindler in the Whitehouse, good that Tim still has the big picture together and not get bullied.

Bullied into doing the right thing?

 

[Apple Corps]

You are being sold a bill of goods on this.

Lowering the economic friction between two countries helps the economies of both. It's not a zero-sum game.

Meanwhile, an economic environment with dense borders, each with its own flavor of regulations (rules/tarrifs/beauracracies/quotas/etc) favors the big dogs because they are the only ones with the resources to navigate it at all.

The US is shamefully tilting the rules in favor of people at the top, but not through globalization. The domestic tax laws and unrestricted lobbying do that.

The billionaires are laughing their asses off eveytime some regular schmuck argues in their interests in the name of the little guy.

What domestic tax laws are you referencing? 50% of Americans pay ZERO federal income tax.

 

[WaxedJacket]

What a loathsome coward Tim Cook is. Not only does he avoid going on about privacy to China, but he also completely forgets about his other favourite topics such as transgender rights, climate change, equality of women, open borders, etc. (Interested parties are encouraged to check out how those issues are dealt with in Cook's current favourite country.) How very strange! Why doesn't he open a 'dialogue' about these topics? How about pushing to 'educate' the Chinese government regarding these matters? Oh, right: because he's a hypocrite of the highest (or rather lowest) order and that stuff is only useful to sell his toys in this part of the world where it's currently in fashion. Globalization is good for Cook because it allows him to produce his crap cheaper and sell it in more parts of the world. That's not a benefit for the many IMO.

Well said! This is the same tune you hear sung throughout the political spectrum as well. Shouting for equal rights while making back door shady deals with countries that hold the complete opposite values.

 

[Adam Warlock]

I keep reading here he should stop trying to do politics and just focus on Apple and its products.
Now he's getting flamed because he doesn't focus on politics.

this man cannot win.

That's just it. Because he can't seem to keep his craw shut in the US and other Western nations, effectively wagging his finger disapprovingly at anything he doesn't like, it's a wonder to me why he doesn't try that sh*t in China and similar countries. Does he believe in transgender rights only for Americans? What about Chinese transgenders? Etc.

Personally I'd love for him--via Apple; he's free to espouse his ideas as a private individual, of course, but I'd advise him against it since he is a public figure and attached to Apple--to stay out of politics, but since he insists, then I insist he at least be consistent and not a snivelling, cowardly opportunist.
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It's straight economics, not about Cook being a coward. What his approach really highlights are the benefits of U.S. liberty. Back home, Cook can speak about contentious issues without the explicit threat of the government closing down his business there. In China, the opposite is the case. Apple is a shareholder company, so if Cook was seen to be sabotaging its future business, he would no longer be in the position of CEO.

Just so, which is the very definition of cowardly. It takes no courage for me to preach pro-gay marriage at a gay nightclub, but something else for me to expound its virtues at a KKK rally, for example. What would you think of me if I publicly supported gay marriage in the name of my company and even used company funds for such, but then went and signed a contract with the Grand Dragon to service my fleet of trucks at his garages? Ludicrous, isn't it?

PS. To be clear: I have nothing against gays and am not pro-KKK. These are examples only!

PPS. I positively hate that I had to make such a disclosure, given the times we live in! :-\

 

[Phil in ocala]

What a loathsome coward Tim Cook is. Not only does he avoid going on about privacy to China, but he also completely forgets about his other favourite topics such as transgender rights, climate change, equality of women, open borders, etc. (Interested parties are encouraged to check out how those issues are dealt with in Cook's current favourite country.) How very strange! Why doesn't he open a 'dialogue' about these topics? How about pushing to 'educate' the Chinese government regarding these matters? Oh, right: because he's a hypocrite of the highest (or rather lowest) order and that stuff is only useful to sell his toys in this part of the world where it's currently in fashion. Globalization is good for Cook because it allows him to produce his crap cheaper and sell it in more parts of the world. That's not a benefit for the many IMO.

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China has over one billion people....the fact that they can build high speed trains is something the US does not have...Globalism enables Apple to see computers and phones all over the world...Trump does not get that has he does not use a computer...just like many people in Nursing Homes.....Cisco Systems...sell their networking stuff all over the world and Server Companies do to...China makes mostly cheap crap.

 

[snowboarder]

"In general, Cook's comments largely avoided sensitive Chinese political issues."

Of course, he would do anything for money. There is another similar old profession -
a person sells EVERYTHING for money... At least that person, usually a woman, is honest...

 

[Phil in ocala]

That's just it. Because he can't seem to keep his craw shut in the US and other Western nations, effectively wagging his finger disapprovingly at anything he doesn't like, it's a wonder to me why he doesn't try that sh*t in China and similar countries. Does he believe in transgender rights only for Americans? What about Chinese transgenders? Etc.

Personally I'd love for him--via Apple; he's free to espouse his ideas as a private individual, of course, but I'd advise him against it since he is a public figure and attached to Apple--to stay out of politics, but since he insists, I insist he be at least be consistent and not a snivelling, cowardly opportunist.
[doublepost=1489850997][/doublepost]Just so, which is the very definition of cowardly. It takes no courage for me to preach pro-gay marriage at a gay nightclub, but something else for me to expound its virtues at a KKK rally, for example. Would would you think of me if I publicly supported gay marriage in the name of my company and even used company funds for such, but then went and signed a contract with the Grand Dragon to service my fleet of trucks at his garages? Ludicrous, isn't it?

PS. To be clear: I have nothing against gays and am not pro-KKK. These are examples only!

PPS. I positively hate that I had to make such a disclosure, given the times we live in! :-\

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Frankly the vast majority of Americans are not losing sleep over Gay issues or LGBT issues....everytime Hillary used those terms in a speech...she lost 5,000 votes.

 

[cube]

the fact that they can build high speed trains is something the US does not have

https://www.theatlantic.com/china/a...and-fall-of-chinas-great-railway-boss/277613/