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What a loathsome coward Tim Cook is. Not only does he avoid going on about privacy to China, but he also completely forgets about his other favourite topics such as transgender rights, climate change, equality of women, open borders, etc. (Interested parties are encouraged to check out how those issues are dealt with in Cook's current favourite country.) How very strange! Why doesn't he open a 'dialogue' about these topics? How about pushing to 'educate' the Chinese government regarding these matters? Oh, right: because he's a hypocrite of the highest (or rather lowest) order and that stuff is only useful to sell his toys in this part of the world where it's currently in fashion. Globalization is good for Cook because it allows him to produce his crap cheaper and sell it in more parts of the world. That's not a benefit for the many IMO.

Well said....The globalist idea is really only good for the huge corporations and a select few at the top...Good for the elite at the expense of the masses who for the most part buy into the globalist propaganda.
 
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What a loathsome coward Tim Cook is. Not only does he avoid going on about privacy to China, but he also completely forgets about his other favourite topics such as transgender rights, climate change, equality of women, open borders, etc. (Interested parties are encouraged to check out how those issues are dealt with in Cook's current favourite country.) How very strange! Why doesn't he open a 'dialogue' about these topics? How about pushing to 'educate' the Chinese government regarding these matters? Oh, right: because he's a hypocrite of the highest (or rather lowest) order and that stuff is only useful to sell his toys in this part of the world where it's currently in fashion. Globalization is good for Cook because it allows him to produce his crap cheaper and sell it in more parts of the world. That's not a benefit for the many IMO.

Such an adorable tiny rant!

"but he also completely forgets about his other favourite topics such as transgender rights, climate change, equality of women, open borders, etc."

No. Promoting human rights issues and pressuring change in other countries is the domain of the United States Secretary of State. Tim Cook is CEO of Apple, not the Secretary of State.

Cook visiting China and lecturing government officials on internal Chinese social/political matters would be like Jack Ma (Ma Yun), the CEO of Alibaba, visiting the United States and speaking his mind on internal US social/political issues before government officials. That would be the domain of China's Foreign Minister.
 
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You are being sold a bill of goods on this.

Lowering the economic friction between two countries helps the economies of both. It's not a zero-sum game.

Meanwhile, an economic environment with dense borders, each with its own flavor of regulations (rules/tarrifs/beauracracies/quotas/etc) favors the big dogs because they are the only ones with the resources to navigate it at all.

The US is shamefully tilting the rules in favor of people at the top, but not through globalization. The domestic tax laws and unrestricted lobbying do that.

The billionaires are laughing their asses off eveytime some regular schmuck argues in their interests in the name of the little guy.

Oh really? you have some points but it is unbalanced.... I would like to invite you to notice next time your in a store to pick it up and look on the label to see where it is manufactured and 9 times out of ten it is China....25 or so years ago it was not the case and our GDP growth was much more robust which now has turned into a trickle...Real wages measured against inflation are at all time lows compared to then...The labor participation rate is at all time lows...Welfare in the U.S. is at all time highs...Did I mention the trade deficit....Back then we had a trade surplus....Look at GM when they began outsourcing manufacturing jobs then cut U.S employees salaries in half....The employees of GM made more in 1985 then they do today and that's not even adjusting for inflation...Once you count inflation employees are making less than half what they brought in 1985... Sorry but your case doesn't hold up to the test of facts.
 
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This just confirmed Cook is a globalist pig... It's like he's taking this straight out of Bezos' playbook, they are looking increasingly similar too (even though Bezos is bald, and has completely deranged eyes)

Timmy speaks of economic inequality, but obviously enjoys the position he's been handed by Jobs, running the most recognizable company and reaping the financial benefits

He probably hangs out with George Soros. Having a meltdown from Trump not being a globalist, but also not an isolationist (why does it have to be either or? oh yeah, hysteria from certain extremist liberals-- isolationist is the new thing since they've added it to their vocabulary, like fascist.

Cook looks evil as hell and self-indulgent in this photo, CHINA HYSTERIA!!!

Didn't Pegatron (or was it Foxconn) recently say publicly they're fully ready to have manufacturing scale for in the US, if Apple eats the cost for that transition? Come on Cook, step it up. Less words, more action. And good action. Or just hand it off to someone else who can run this company but actually enjoys tech and hopes for the success of US
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What else was he suppose to do? Go to China and trash them when all the phones are made there and all the manufacturing is cheapest there for consumer electronics and Apple wants to continue to work with the Chinese etc. etc. They don't have laws that protect businesses from the government as it relates to free speech.
How about don’t go there and talk crap at all?
 
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It's funny how people label Trump a fascist, and worse than Hitler but I don't see people going to jail for their views, or for saying they want him dead even.

Be interested to see those people float those ideas in China. Apples CEO won't even say anything.

It is funny.....they praise China and Even celebrate countries like Saudi Arabia.....It's the height of insanity...I think most of the folks saying that stuff about Trump are just repeating what they hear the guy in TV dressed in the suit is saying acting like a parrot with no real thought or observation of facts.
 
No, I visit MR in the hopes of getting news about some new desktop Macs, preferably headless. I'm waiting impatiently for one. Instead I'm inundated with nonsense about Tim Cook and his social justice blathering.
I don't think you do, actually. For one thing, not everything you disagree with is trolling. Second, proper trolling is subtle and insidious, with just enough plausible deniability built into it. My original post in this thread was anything but; it was direct and to the point, no two ways about it.

I gave up the thoughts for really great headless desktop Macs when they called 2003 the year of the notebook.
 
It is funny.....they praise China and Even celebrate countries like Saudi Arabia.....It's the height of insanity...I think most of the folks saying that stuff about Trump are just repeating what they hear the guy in TV dressed in the suit is saying acting like a parrot with no real thought or observation of facts.

Mainstream Media has its own agenda, communicated from the top-down of 6 companies that own all of its outlets, not the agenda or interest of 'the people'

I think this tweet enlightens-

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What else was he suppose to do? Go to China and trash them when all the phones are made there and all the manufacturing is cheapest there for consumer electronics and Apple wants to continue to work with the Chinese etc. etc. They don't have laws that protect businesses from the government as it relates to free speech.


Actually, manufacturing is no longer "cheapest" in China. Companies like Samsung are starting to move production to Vietnam and Brazil and India. Because of their large base, China will remain a big player, but they are feeling the pressure.
 
Actually, manufacturing is no longer "cheapest" in China. Companies like Samsung are starting to move production to Vietnam and Brazil and India. Because of their large base, China will remain a big player, but they are feeling the pressure.
I don't know how much electronics Brazil exports outside of South America. Companies need to manufacture there because of their super high import taxes.

It also helps that they improved on the Japanese HDTV standard and it was adopted throughout the region.
 
Trump is making all of these people self implode by being POTUS

They still don't understand the election is over. And he's no longer presidential candidate or president elect either.

Like snoop. Great diplomatic leader, snoop. And his wonderful cousin, bow wow still in lil bow wow mentality, threatening to prostitute the First Lady for talking smack about snoop and his failing career.
 
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Just business as usual. Nobody really cares about globalization unless it affects their checkbooks. Globalization involves cutting material and labor costs, otherwise no CEO would care to run to another country and externalize those resources, especially if it costed more.
 
Just business as usual. Nobody really cares about globalization unless it affects their checkbooks. Globalization involves cutting material and labor costs, otherwise no CEO would care to run to another country and externalize those resources, especially if it costed more.

It's business and costs but it's also agenda 21 and the globalist movement and massive push to be 100% dependent and then broken by dependence on the govt. Elites want to decimate the middle class and average Joe and all but themselves. They want this world to be their playground exclusively. It's a difference of mentality and ideology not just business. For some/many at least (certainly not all, of course)
 
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Without the globalist rigged economy Apple arguable would not have been able to scale so rapidly into the behemoth it is today which, I understand, has been largely attributed to the steerage under Tim Cook who, by the way, did major in industrial engineering at college [Auburn University] to specifically train him to do what he's done with Apple.

That said, it's no surprise to hear this kind of rhetoric out of Cook. I do wish he was more "in touch" with the average American who has seen globalism eviscerate the American economy/jobs market. I don't believe in his entire adult working life Tim has ever suffered a lean period or rough patch. His employments have largely insulated him from the financial pain and struggle of millions of people. So, from his experience and perspective it's been a wonderful thing.

In light of that, I would say that both Silicon Valley and Washington, D.C. are equally out of touch with what's going on. This rhetoric reminds me of the kind of dissociation that occurred at Versailles in the decades preceding the French Revolution.

I can't really blame Cook but he seems sadly and hopelessly out of touch and likely will never have any seriously painful life experiences to alter that mindset. He lives in a bubble. Economic hardship is merely a theoretical concept in Cook's brain. I don't see that it's ever touched him physically, emotionally or circumstantially.
 
What domestic tax laws are you referencing? 50% of Americans pay ZERO federal income tax.
It's awfully disingenuous to focus on that one tax. You're ignoring state income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes, self employment tax, numerous kinds of licenses, semi-mandatory insurance, not to mention tariffs and taxes on consumer goods, energy, and food which you don't see broken out but are passed directly on to the consumer.

The idea that a bunch of students, retired people, verterans, and poor people aren't paying their fair share is one of the ideas pushed to keep us fighting with each other rather than looking at where the real problems are.
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Oh really? you have some points but it is unbalanced.... I would like to invite you to notice next time your in a store to pick it up and look on the label to see where it is manufactured and 9 times out of ten it is China....25 or so years ago it was not the case and our GDP growth was much more robust which now has turned into a trickle...Real wages measured against inflation are at all time lows compared to then...The labor participation rate is at all time lows...Welfare in the U.S. is at all time highs...Did I mention the trade deficit....Back then we had a trade surplus....Look at GM when they began outsourcing manufacturing jobs then cut U.S employees salaries in half....The employees of GM made more in 1985 then they do today and that's not even adjusting for inflation...Once you count inflation employees are making less than half what they brought in 1985... Sorry but your case doesn't hold up to the test of facts.
You've got various disinformation in there.

But let's look at something where you got the facts basicallly right but have been misled about what it means:

Yes, wages are stagnant (or worse, depending on how you look at it) in recent years. BUT, business is booming. Globalization isn't hurting our economy at all (quite the opposite). The problem is that we let the people who run corporations dictate the rules to our lawmakers, and they've made the rules to send the money to themselves.

You're really eating up the stuff they are selling... but you have to ask yourself, WHY?
 
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