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After his and Apple's involvement in TPP, and how much he still pushes his globalization agenda is troublesome.

Globalization itself is not a terrible thing. Globalization for profiteering off nations and regions with low standards of living and human rights violations just to put more money in his pocket, that he doesn't need, now THAT, makes me angry

He, along with his democrat and republican buddies are globalists. They don't care much about America. They view the nation state as a bad thing that needs to be weakened or removed.
 
He, along with his democrat and republican buddies are globalists. They don't care much about America. They view the nation state as a bad thing that needs to be weakened or removed.

So do I, but where he sees it as a means to produce mass profits off the back of those he can leverage (Like chinese cheap labour, etc)

I see globalization that should aim to even out and lift up those less fortunate than us.
 
Ugh, Cook has all the charisma of a piece of wet cardboard.

Seriously when was charisma needed to run a Silicon Valley company? It's the home of nerd as hero. Go back to basics and consider the employees of tech startups, consider the venture capitalists who scarf them up. If you can tell one end of a supply chain from the other, that's a start. If you can manage a supply chain, that's key to advancing to the C-suite. If you think a supply chain is something you buy online to hook up a widget to a gadget in order to make teenage girls swoon when a drum solo kicks into a zoom-in closeup of Mr. Charismatic Rock Band Artist, keep your current day job.

Cook is not Jobs. Jobs was not CEO of Apple as it has become today. Nothing stands still and manages to survive for long. Whoever cannot or will not flex with the requirements of the job as it changes is doomed to whatever he managed to get approved as his golden parachute. Cook's clearly running a successful enterprise. How long he lasts is partly up to him, partyly up to his picks for design and product line management, partly up to his board, partly up to the forces of disruption. Now disruption is something that all tech companies face and that Apple, so far, has been adept at levering up to the next great thing (even while winking at the camera and dissing the very idea of it in advance lol, as Jobs did with the tablet or the stylus, for instance).

One can argue about Apple's hits, misses and messups, but the one thing you can't tag Apple on is knowing that globalization is a part of all tech companies' DNA nowadays. With Cook knowing supply chain management inside and out, it's hard to say "charisma" counts for beans in having a clue about what globalization is, what it costs, what it brings home to the bottom line and, in Apple's case, what it offers to human beings around the world.
 
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It's funny how people label Trump a fascist, and worse than Hitler but I don't see people going to jail for their views, or for saying they want him dead even.

Be interested to see those people float those ideas in China. Apples CEO won't even say anything.

Because this country is 1/2 idiots. Just let the guy make our country great just like he made his business great. Thank God he kicked Hillarys ass in the election.
 
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So do I, but where he sees it as a means to produce mass profits off the back of those he can leverage (Like chinese cheap labour, etc)

I see globalization that should aim to even out and lift up those less fortunate than us.

The issue with that idea is simply, your standard of living will be drastically reduced. Your housing prices will rise and force you out of Canada. Forget living in any major city in the West. You'll either live in a slum, or you'll have to be mega rich to afford to live there. It wouldn't affect me too much, but a lot of my friends and family would be affected substantially by this. It would lead to war, and chaos no doubt as anywhere from 1-3 billion people push north and west. There would be food shortages, famine, war, water shortages. It would be an absolute unmitigated disaster.

Our nation states maintain our standard of living. Your goal is true in it's intentions, but a far better solution is to continue to help those outside our borders raise their standard of living, and learn how to teach, build things, etc... .

Just as they say when you're flying, that you need to make sure you have your mask on before helping others, the West needs to do the same, and make sure they continue doing the same.
 
The issue with that idea is simply, your standard of living will be drastically reduced. Your housing prices will rise and force you out of Canada. Forget living in any major city in the West. You'll either live in a slum, or you'll have to be mega rich to afford to live there. It wouldn't affect me too much, but a lot of my friends and family would be affected substantially by this. It would lead to war, and chaos no doubt as anywhere from 1-3 billion people push north and west. There would be food shortages, famine, war, water shortages. It would be an absolute unmitigated disaster.

Our nation states maintain our standard of living. Your goal is true in it's intentions, but a far better solution is to continue to help those outside our borders raise their standard of living, and learn how to teach, build things, etc... .

Just as they say when you're flying, that you need to make sure you have your mask on before helping others, the West needs to do the same, and make sure they continue doing the same.
thats what I"m talking about. Sorry if not clear

Not lower ours to meet theirs, Raise theirs to meet ours.
 
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Globalisation is only bad when you are on the wrong side. It has been here since the 50ies when US products (jeans, cars, fast food and soft drinks, electronics, airplanes) sold better than the local products around the world. Now that it turns back on the US its bad of course.
 
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Don't like it? Disagree with Apple? Simple. Don't buy Apple.

Well, that is exactly what I am in the process of doing. I need to replace my 2007 iMac, my 2009 mini and my 2012 air. Apple is not making these anymore so I just purchased my first Windows PC in more than 10 years. Thought I would never say or do that, but Apple has left it's long term customers, only offering 3 and 4 year old equipment at very high prices.

And once I have been forced back into the Windows world, my current 6s+ iPhone certainly will not be replaced by another iPhone. But I am sure Apple couldn't care less.
 
How many of those will be taken over by robots?
Robots will take over in China too. I think they're the ones who will use robotics the fastest and new durable energy as well while we still argue and invest in fossil fuels. It's better the US and Europe find ways to use robotics as well if we don't want to build walls around our countries and miss the boat to the future.
 
Tim might be a good corporate manager, or not. But he really sucks at politics.

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It's funny how people label Trump a fascist, and worse than Hitler but I don't see people going to jail for their views, or for saying they want him dead even.
Actually, under the US code you could be fined or imprisoned up to 5 years if you did the latter.
Having said that, it didn't stop Trump from calling for the assassination of Clinton during the campaign.
 
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That seems to describe Trump himself.

So true! It's clear we have a president who just watches Fox news and reads the breitbart web site, rather than actually studying issues and listening to people in his own goverment who have direct knowledge.

As Mark Cuban said, he truly is the 'Zoolander' president.
 
Its been good to him but not for the thousans, perhaps millions of people who lost their jobs in his own country,

This is the typical argument we see for globalization. It only works well for those on top. And its easy to draw a flattering picture of it, because the top one percent enjoys the benefits and will gladly defend it.

Tim Cook is doing this. He is using his powerfull voice to fight the battle for the elite, against the public.

So true. Free trade is free to the elite, but the unwashed public get the fine honour of paying for it through taxes.
 
Tim might be a good corporate manager, or not. But he really sucks at politics.

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LOL of course liberals are more dangerous than guns. They think for themselves. Guns just wait to be told what to do by their masters.

On Apple's "politics": In the ranks of companies navigating the shores of K street, Apple is not doing too badly so far, and Tim Cook's entire board and management groups probably laugh all the way to the bank every time someone calls any of them, or Cook himself, a "liberal". Such a tired old label. So abused that no one knows what it means any more, really. It's not even a thing any more in the USA, is it? I believe the term "progressive" has come back into favor...

Anyway, more on politics: there's personal politics, "company politics", corporate politics, Silicon Valley politics, Wall Street politics and then there's the politics of dealing with the federal government as a huge company with multinational interests. Oh, and the politics of public relations. One should not confuse any one of these scenarios with any other. One of the reasons a CEO in the top ranks of industry makes so much money is he must manage to keep these interests separate while being seen to treat each with all due respect at any given moment. So far, Tim Cook's making the grade. Not alone of course. No one can manage all that stuff without good help.
 
What else was he suppose to do? Go to China and trash them when all the phones are made there and all the manufacturing is cheapest there for consumer electronics and Apple wants to continue to work with the Chinese etc. etc. They don't have laws that protect businesses from the government as it relates to free speech.
I didn't know it was a mandatory visit.
If he couldn't speak freely then he could have opted for not speaking at all.
 
The message he wanted to convey was "we want China to provide more market access for foreign companies". Unfortunately for Apple, they have played the globalization game too hard.
 
I am tired of these SJWs who are full of s*** they defend gay rights and do business with the most brutal regimes..on the surface they fight for justice but inside they don't give a s*** about justice or equality it is only their own interest and view of the world that has to win. I am very please to see that macrumors readers are mostly awake and have critical thinking and can see hypocrisy clearly
 
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