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Which Phone will you order?

  • iPhone 8

    Votes: 19 1.2%
  • iPhone 8 plus

    Votes: 60 3.8%
  • iPhone X

    Votes: 1,527 96.6%

  • Total voters
    1,581
I am sorry but you are incorrect. Flights can and do make the ZhengZhou China to Anchorage run non-stop.

Before the iPhone X launch earlier this month, and all month there have been at least a dozen or more times direct flights from ZhengZhou (also know as iPhone City). The direct flights have been flown primary by National Airlines, a contract carrier for UPS. These flights will just appear on Flightware a few hours before the actual departures when the flight plans are logged at ZhengZhou's airport.

Also the final destination is not always UPS's World Hub in Louisville. They have delivered the AT&T bulk shipments to Dallas (Fort Worth Distribution Center) and Memphis. They have also handled the Sprint, T-Moble and Verizon bulk shipments.

Dave
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The easiest way to explain the different "trajectories" is to note the basic UPS shipping flow. Most customers are just happy to know when their iPhone ships and when it is scheduled to arrive. Only a small percentage like us want to know exactly where our new iPhone is at every stop in the fulfillment flow.

UPS runs a series of regularly scheduled flights between China and Louisville. These flights handle the day to day freight loads. In periods of high demand like "now", in additional to the normal UPS flights, contracted dedicated flights are added for periods of large volume of device shipments.

As I mentioned above there are the two National Airlines 747's and other freight only flights like those that Cathay Pacific runs. And finally, your new iPhone X can ride as cargo on passenger flights.

So some flights will be direct from ZhengZhou China to Alaska, while others stop in South Korea, Japan, and Hong Kong as well as other locations to be merged to the regularly scheduled UPS freight flights.

Note: The regular UPS flights run on schedules that vary from daily, 5 days per week and other variations.

Dave

I’m just saying what the norm is. And there has been no screenshots in these thread proving the journey path you state there. Not saying it’s not possible - just stating the travel path of the vast majority - and of all the screenshots posted here. If you have other screenshot proof - by all means - post it!
 
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I’m just saying what the norm is. And there has been no screenshots in these thread proving the journey path you state there. Not saying it’s not possible - just stating the travel path of the vast majority - and of all the screenshots posted here. If you have other screenshot proof - by all means - post it!
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I’m just saying what the norm is. And there has been no screenshots in these thread proving the journey path you state there. Not saying it’s not possible - just stating the travel path of the vast majority - and of all the screenshots posted here. If you have other screenshot proof - by all means - post it!
 
I’m just saying what the norm is. And there has been no screenshots in these thread proving the journey path you state there. Not saying it’s not possible - just stating the travel path of the vast majority - and of all the screenshots posted here. If you have other screenshot proof - by all means - post it!
I get it you are one of those that require Pics or it never happened! Here is a quick example but there are many other examples right here in this thread! Don't feel bad about being wrong, you will have may more chances for you!

Reference quote from you earlier post:
Yes. If they’re missing Korea - then it has a Shanghai scan. I’ve kept records (as I do every year) of this process and in 100% of the posts here with proof screenshots there’s a scan through Shanghai or Incheon after leaving ZhengZhou.
Note you never said anything about "the Norm" and you made the major mistake of stating 100% of the posts here supporting your opinion which is simply incorrect!

OK, let's start with a quote from the Oct. 31 flight of NCR628 of UPS tracking that matches the National flight from Oct. 31 carrying a massive load of Apple iPhone X units that were being tracked right here in this tread for Delivery on Friday Nov. 3 all across the USA!

You will have to take the way back machine but if you start at page 200 or so you can follow all the fun of tracking flight NCR628 from Zhengzhou (CGO) to Anchorage (ANC) and finally on to Louisville (SDF).

And hey, it is happening again this week with National Airlines (National Cargo) Tail Number N952CA running the loop from Zhengzhou as N8603 on Tuesday, Nov. 21 and Wednesday Nov. 22. It is currently on the way back to Zhengzhou (CGO) as N8890 to get another massive load of iPhone X.

Hmm, I wonder what all those Apple customers might be expecting on Black Friday, oh yea lots and lots of iPhone X boxes!


Link: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n952ca

They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

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Sample quote from the iPhone X launch posts right here in this same exact thread as we tracked the mystical flight from Zhengzhou > Anchorage > Louisville without the need to stop in Shanghai, Inchon, or even Japan(some flights do stop in Japan).

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Dave
 
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ZhengZhou, China 11/24/2017 1:41 A.M. Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.
11/24/2017 1:33 A.M. Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery.
11/21/2017 10:58 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
ZhengZhou, China 11/21/2017 11:15 P.M. Arrival Scan
11/21/2017 10:43 P.M. Departure Scan
11/21/2017 7:49 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
ZhengZhou, China 11/21/2017 6:10 P.M. Origin Scan
China 11/21/2017 10:18 P.M. (ET) Order Processed: Ready for UPS

This is good news right???? So is anyone in the know as to how long now? I saw where Apple has already charged my account and my Verizon shows I am getting one. BTW: Which destination city would that be? I live in Ohio
 
I've seen one person with an order on Nov 15 or later with movement. I ordered on Nov 15 and it's still on "Order in Progress" anyone else moved to "Preparing to Ship"?
 
I've seen one person with an order on Nov 15 or later with movement. I ordered on Nov 15 and it's still on "Order in Progress" anyone else moved to "Preparing to Ship"?

I ordered after the 15th and still have order in progress, but my delivery date did change. I don’t know if much activity will happen today due to the holiday.
 
Thank you for posting!! That’s the first we’ve seen here of ZhengZhou straight to Anchorage!
Ah, no that is not the first one of an example of ZhengZhou straight to Anchorage routing. I posted an example above from the launch batch, there are many more like it.

Here is one from just a few pages back on page 446. To save you time here is the shot. Special note: this iPhone X was on National Airlines 8267 (one of those pesky Charter flights) that you indicated did not likely exist.

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Dave
 
I ordered after the 15th and still have order in progress, but my delivery date did change. I don’t know if much activity will happen today due to the holiday.
Ordered mine October 31st from the Apple Store. I posted above that it cleared and package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city. I just wish I knew what that meant. What destination city?
 
Ah, no that is not the first one of an example of ZhengZhou straight to Anchorage routing. I posted an example above from the launch batch, there are many more like it.

Here is one from just a few pages back on page 446. To save you time here is the shot. Special note: this iPhone X was on National Airlines 8267 (one of those pesky Charter flights) that you indicated did not likely exist.

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Dave

Strange. I’ve screenshot every one for several weeks. Must have missed that one.. but I stand by my original statement... for every one of those direct routes you can show me / I have 10 times more showing the triple stop. It is by far the most common.
 
Strange. I’ve screenshot every one for several weeks. Must have missed that one.. but I stand by my original statement... for every one of those direct routes you can show me / I have 10 times more showing the triple stop. It is by far the most common.
Also mine never went to Korea for some reason, was hoping it would, quite like Korea!
 

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All phones from ZhengZhou China go thru Incheon Korea or Shanghai China before going to Anchorage. Not sure what you think you saw. Pretty sure UPS jets can’t get from ZhengZhou China to Alaska without refuel.
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Ah, no that is not the first one of an example of ZhengZhou straight to Anchorage routing. I posted an example above from the launch batch, there are many more like it.

Here is one from just a few pages back on page 446. To save you time here is the shot. Special note: this iPhone X was on National Airlines 8267 (one of those pesky Charter flights) that you indicated did not likely exist.

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Dave

My package went from China straight to Alaska too!

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My package went from China straight to Alaska too!
And for reference, your iPhone was on National Air / NCR 8603 (one of those 2 pesky direct 747/400 charters).

Hey @NewdestinyX, I hope by now you see the pattern for these direct flights from iPhone City. They are all on special charters where very, very, very large quantities of iPhone X units are USA bound. So by volume these type of flights account for the bulk of iPhone Xs shipped since launch day.

Dave
 
And for reference, your iPhone was on National Air / NCR 8603 (one of those 2 pesky direct 747/400 charters).

Hey @NewdestinyX, I hope by now you see the pattern for these direct flights from iPhone City. They are all on special charters where very, very, very large quantities of iPhone X units are USA bound. So by volume these type of flights account for the bulk of iPhone Xs shipped since launch day.

Dave

Possibly - but that’s not what the data I’ve seen here shows at all. The data I’ve collected indicates otherwise.
 
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ZhengZhou, China 11/24/2017 1:41 A.M. Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.
11/24/2017 1:33 A.M. Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery.
11/21/2017 10:58 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
ZhengZhou, China 11/21/2017 11:15 P.M. Arrival Scan
11/21/2017 10:43 P.M. Departure Scan
11/21/2017 7:49 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
ZhengZhou, China 11/21/2017 6:10 P.M. Origin Scan
China 11/21/2017 10:18 P.M. (ET) Order Processed: Ready for UPS

This is good news right???? So is anyone in the know as to how long now? I saw where Apple has already charged my account and my Verizon shows I am getting one. BTW: Which destination city would that be? I live in Ohio
Well it seems like everyone has had different outcomes. Mine for example, my cc was charged on 11/16 and shipped on this day as well from Zhengzhou. From 11/16 to 11/23 my phone stayed in Zhengzhou before finally arriving in Incheon on 11/23, Korea time. From reading other post, others have had better luck with getting their phone from Zhengzhou to Incheon, then to Anchorage, AK and Louisville, KY, some in as few as 6 days. Louisville is the destination city where most of all the phones are going to. Since you have Verizon, your phone may not take that long as mine, I have an att 256 space gray, which, in earlier posts have stated that this particular phone has been taking the longest to ship because of high demand.
 
Well it seems like everyone has had different outcomes. Mine for example, my cc was charged on 11/16 and shipped on this day as well from Zhengzhou. From 11/16 to 11/23 my phone stayed in Zhengzhou before finally arriving in Incheon on 11/23, Korea time. From reading other post, others have had better luck with getting their phone from Zhengzhou to Incheon, then to Anchorage, AK and Louisville, KY, some in as few as 6 days. Louisville is the destination city where most of all the phones are going to. Since you have Verizon, your phone may not take that long as mine, I have an att 256 space gray, which, in earlier posts have stated that this particular phone has been taking the longest to ship because of high demand.
So what do they mean by destination city?
 
So what do they mean by destination city?
Destination city, I believe, is the last major ups hub (last customs clearance for international shipments)before getting separated to to their final delivery to local hubs.

For me, I think all of my ups shipments have gone to Louisville, whether my orders start out on the east or west coast before heading to my local hub. They usually go from Louisville to Dallas/Ft Worth, sometimes Mesquite, Tx then to the local hub where I live.

In your case, I believe, it would be from Louisville to Ohio.

Taken from ups website:

Common scans include the following:

  • Arrival Scan: The shipment has arrived at a UPS facility.
  • Delivered: The shipment has reached its destination, and the date and time of delivery have been recorded. In the U.S. and Canada, residential deliveries that do not require a signature may be left in a safe place, out of sight and out of weather. This could include the front porch, side door, back porch, or garage area. If you have instructed the driver to leave the shipment with a neighbor or leasing office, the driver will leave a UPS InfoNotice® at the delivery address.
  • Departure Scan: The shipment has departed a UPS facility and is on its way to the next UPS facility. The shipment is moving; however, there may be several days between scans if the shipment is going cross-country or moving between countries.
  • Destination Scan: The shipment has arrived at the local UPS facility responsible for final delivery.
  • Exception: Action Required: The shipment is currently within the UPS network; however, more information regarding the delivery address is needed. The sender must provide the correct shipping address information to UPS.
  • Export Scan: The shipment has cleared export procedures in the origin country.
  • Given to Post Office for Delivery: At the request of the sender, UPS has given the package to the U.S. Postal Service to make the final delivery. This contractual service may require an additional one to two days for delivery.
  • Import Scan: The shipment has cleared import procedures in the receiving country.
  • Order Processed; In Transit to UPS: The shipment has been processed by the sender. Once the shipment is within the UPS network, an expected delivery date will be made available.
  • Order Processed; Ready for UPS: UPS has received the electronic transmission of the shipment details and billing information for this shipment from the sender. Once the shipment is moving within the UPS network, the tracking status will be updated.
  • Origin Scan: UPS has received the shipment.
  • On Vehicle for Delivery: The shipment has reached the local UPS facility responsible for delivery and has been dispatched to a UPS driver. Other than time-definite air deliveries, shipments are generally delivered anytime between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. (and sometimes later) to residences, and by close of business for commercial addresses. UPS cannot schedule a specific delivery time within that window. Up to three delivery attempts will be made, excluding weekends and holidays.
 
Destination city, I believe, is the last major ups hub (last customs clearance for international shipments)before getting separated to to their final delivery to local hubs.

For me, I think all of my ups shipments have gone to Louisville, whether my orders start out on the east or west coast before heading to my local hub. They usually go from Louisville to Dallas/Ft Worth, sometimes Mesquite, Tx then to the local hub where I live.

In your case, I believe, it would be from Louisville to Ohio.

Taken from ups website:

Common scans include the following:

  • Arrival Scan: The shipment has arrived at a UPS facility.
  • Delivered: The shipment has reached its destination, and the date and time of delivery have been recorded. In the U.S. and Canada, residential deliveries that do not require a signature may be left in a safe place, out of sight and out of weather. This could include the front porch, side door, back porch, or garage area. If you have instructed the driver to leave the shipment with a neighbor or leasing office, the driver will leave a UPS InfoNotice® at the delivery address.
  • Departure Scan: The shipment has departed a UPS facility and is on its way to the next UPS facility. The shipment is moving; however, there may be several days between scans if the shipment is going cross-country or moving between countries.
  • Destination Scan: The shipment has arrived at the local UPS facility responsible for final delivery.
  • Exception: Action Required: The shipment is currently within the UPS network; however, more information regarding the delivery address is needed. The sender must provide the correct shipping address information to UPS.
  • Export Scan: The shipment has cleared export procedures in the origin country.
  • Given to Post Office for Delivery: At the request of the sender, UPS has given the package to the U.S. Postal Service to make the final delivery. This contractual service may require an additional one to two days for delivery.
  • Import Scan: The shipment has cleared import procedures in the receiving country.
  • Order Processed; In Transit to UPS: The shipment has been processed by the sender. Once the shipment is within the UPS network, an expected delivery date will be made available.
  • Order Processed; Ready for UPS: UPS has received the electronic transmission of the shipment details and billing information for this shipment from the sender. Once the shipment is moving within the UPS network, the tracking status will be updated.
  • Origin Scan: UPS has received the shipment.
  • On Vehicle for Delivery: The shipment has reached the local UPS facility responsible for delivery and has been dispatched to a UPS driver. Other than time-definite air deliveries, shipments are generally delivered anytime between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. (and sometimes later) to residences, and by close of business for commercial addresses. UPS cannot schedule a specific delivery time within that window. Up to three delivery attempts will be made, excluding weekends and holidays.
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