So because of technology the government has the right to violate your rights? How would you like the government to track your every move or turn on your camera and mic from your iPhone and then tell you that the iPhone did not exist when the constitution was written; your rights are null and void?
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Apple Denies Knowledge of NSA's iPhone Spying Program
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So because of technology the government has the right to violate your rights? How would you like the government to track your every move or turn on your camera and mic from your iPhone and then tell you that the iPhone did not exist when the constitution was written; your rights are null and void?
I would bet that the NSA could monitor any phone that had physical possession of. This to me isn't a surprising story.
Read the fine print in all of the "flat tax" proposals. Every one of them excludes capital gains. This is called the "Steve Forbes never pays taxes again Plan" because he has pushed it the hardest. The rich are seeking to eliminate any deductions, credits or loopholes for the 99% and free themselves permanently from all taxes since their "incomes" are not from paychecks but from capital gains. This effectively transfers all of their tax burden to us with no means of moderating it for illness, a disabled child or any other reason. It's the ultimate in regressive taxation.
Look at America without it and you see all the money moving to the very few at the top.. Yeah 'Murica such a place of opportunity.
I can't tell for sure, but doesn't this imply they cracked the original iPhone running iOS 2? Why is everyone assuming that a 5 year old powerpoint slide is as valid today as it was back then?
Steve Jobs was pretty serious about privacy of Apple's users. Apple doesn't get paid by selling your data, they get paid by selling you iThingies.
Might help to remember this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iKLwlUqBo
I'd be pretty shocked if Apple knowingly helped the NSA, unless they were basically forced to with threats of terrible consequences, in which case the NSA is not just malicious hackers, but quite possibly blackmailing, malicious, terrorizing, hackers.
Steve Jobs was pretty serious about privacy of Apple's users. Apple doesn't get paid by selling your data, they get paid by selling you iThingies.
Might help to remember this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iKLwlUqBo
I'd be pretty shocked if Apple knowingly helped the NSA, unless they were basically forced to with threats of terrible consequences, in which case the NSA is not just malicious hackers, but quite possibly blackmailing, malicious, terrorizing, hackers.
I don't like quoting myself but I am lazy so I will copy what I wrote after a similar post:
A lot of people think like you. I was thinking this way too until I saw a report of an innocent guy who ended up on a no-fly list by coincidence.
He hasn't done nothing wrong. Just like you and me. He was doing business trips at the wrong place at the wrong time doing innocent everyday things but the NSA saw a pattern in his behavior that terrorists used to have. So they did put the potential-terrorist-supporter tag on him and he ended up on the no-fly list and could not fly back to the states. There is nothing he could do cause this is nothing official. There is no way to protest against it if you end up on such a list. There is no court that puts you on such a list. There is no lawyer that can protect you because terrorists don't get their one free phone call every other suspect gets. There are no laws or guidelines about this. This is scary stuff!
This is like in the middle ages where you could get rid of your neighbor just by saying he is doing some kind of black magic and he was gone.
I bet there are thousands of Americans on such watch-lists. They just don't know.
No, don't you get it? Poor people should have to pay all of the taxes because they are dumb and poor. The job creators shouldn't have to pay any taxes because they're creating jobs for those dumb poor people.
So you're mad at that while enabling Google Now/Apple Location History/etc?
Who cares! If they want to see pictures of my cats, so what.
You must listen to Nancy Pelosi too much. I get a kick out of how liberals either give you two choices: to be for the richest of Americans or against those with disabilities in children and the elderly.
I don't have those features enabled, and you fail to see the difference between private companies tracking you (with your knowledge) and the Federal Government spying on you (without your knowledge).
Some people like their privacy. Would you like people to cam in on you taking a shower? Taking a dump?
The government should have stayed out of getting involved with bailouts and let the free market take its course.
It was mainly the liberals and Clinton specifically that pushed the idea that "everyone should own a home" and basically required banks to approve people that had no business ever having a mortgage in the first place.
Let's put it that way: Millions of Jews, Hugenots, Kurds and native American Indians did not have anything to hide either.
People with your attitude really need to read up on world history, Orwell's 1984, Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 and Huxley's Brave New World. That should answer your question.
Thanks to the NSA, you live in a place that is worse than Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany. If Hollywood wouldn't keep you so distracted, you would wake up screaming in your bed.
There was a time when it was possible to jailbreak an iPhone just by visiting a site. Similarly, you could run arbitrary code just by downloading a malicious PDF. Although some of these bugs are fixed now, with enough time and dedication an expert could always find vulnerabilities. It gets harder as JPEG, MPEG and PDF libraries are completely sandboxed and isolated, but it's not impossible. If you can't find vulnerability in Apple's code, you just have to find a popular app that everyone uses with a vulnerability.
It's not so far-fetched to believe that some government agencies know about some security issues that no one else discovered yet. Just read the story about how Iran's centrifuges were sabotaged. That malware wasn't written by a teenager who wanted to play a practical joke.
Count me unimpressed
This is a pinprick. This program is for a number of select individuals who the NSA targets for special attention, not even based on believing them, though I largely do, but it's way too much work involved for anything but an iPhone -- or any other platform -- that they have a reasonable idea that their traffic will have national security implications for the United States. The fact is, I'd expect they could intercept a Dell computer shopped to a known individual and install some firmware, or a master boot record, that would be almost unfindable, and evade any of the normal security software. They're platform-agnostic. They want info that is crucial to us, and most of the citizens of the world. Though not the tech libertarians, apparently. Oh, and if they make a mistake, and put this software on some shlump's iPhone, and it's all a name confusion or something, what exactly IS the price you pay? They have no enforcement powers. You're a lot safer with the NSA than with gangster hackers who want your money.
And the simple fact is that every national government of a technologically-advanced country is doing the same. Bet Germany has much of the same capability. China, Russia (!), Britain, etc. Keep the gangsters off your bank account. Keep blackmailers away from your extramarital encrypted video chats.
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And I resent your implication that the NSA has any such role. They are constitutionally limited. Scream in your own damn bed.
This is a pinprick. This program is for a number of select individuals who the NSA targets for special attention, not even based on believing them, though I largely do, but it's way too much work involved for anything but an iPhone -- or any other platform -- that they have a reasonable idea that their traffic will have national security implications for the United States. The fact is, I'd expect they could intercept a Dell computer shopped to a known individual and install some firmware, or a master boot record, that would be almost unfindable, and evade any of the normal security software. They're platform-agnostic. They want info that is crucial to us, and most of the citizens of the world. Though not the tech libertarians, apparently. Oh, and if they make a mistake, and put this software on some shlump's iPhone, and it's all a name confusion or something, what exactly IS the price you pay? They have no enforcement powers. You're a lot safer with the NSA than with gangster hackers who want your money.
And the simple fact is that every national government of a technologically-advanced country is doing the same. Bet Germany has much of the same capability. China, Russia (!), Britain, etc. Keep the gangsters off your bank account. Keep blackmailers away from your extramarital encrypted video chats.
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And I resent your implication that the NSA has any such role. They are constitutionally limited. Scream in your own damn bed.
it is interesting that in this statement, Apple is calling the NSA "malicious hackers".
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Hitler's SA were also "constitutionally limited". They did as they pleased anyway until they were powerful enough to suspend the entire legal system, making everything they did legal. Enjoy the future.
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Hitler's SA were also "constitutionally limited". They did as they pleased anyway until they were powerful enough to suspend the entire legal system, making everything they did legal. Enjoy the future.
So you don't think the NSA already has all of that on you and can you it against you?
This really is not a surprise. Conspiracy nuts have been saying for years that the world has been spied on by the big agencies, and there have been lots, and lots, of articles on how it was thought to be done.
But really, once ISPs and phone carriers are in on the scam, it's useless worrying about the level of security on your devices after a certain point. "They" will get you, regardless.
First read about Echelon in print form back in '99 on a magazine I thought was just entirely nutjobs with nothing else to do. But now... It just makes you wonder. https://www.nexusmagazine.com/produ.../echelon-nsa-s-spying-network-part-2-2-detail
But really, once ISPs and phone carriers are in on the scam, it's useless worrying about the level of security on your devices after a certain point. "They" will get you, regardless.
First read about Echelon in print form back in '99 on a magazine I thought was just entirely nutjobs with nothing else to do. But now... It just makes you wonder. https://www.nexusmagazine.com/produ.../echelon-nsa-s-spying-network-part-2-2-detail
Since 2000, most of my phone conversations have been like something from a Martin Scorsese film: "Hey, we need to get that friend of ours to get with that dude and do that thing with that guy at that place."
It's not the concept of PRISM and the NSA I take issue with. It's its built in lack of accountability, transparency, or outside oversight that makes me uncomfortable. Like I said down in the PRSI thread, it's a system with no checks and balances, and is practically begging to be abused.