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100% agree. I can't see why people are upset by HDMI ports or SD card ports. People use those ports and don't want dongle hell.
if you can't see the advantages of having thunderbolt 4 port instead of a specific one, I can't argue with you.

your dongle hell is my dongle paradise. I can use my machine for multiple purpose. It's all about modularity.

but we know that Apple doesn't care that much about the pro segment anyway.
 
I guess I do realise that any port must be connected to the motherboard, and this motherboard must have the bandwidth available for them, yes.

So it's not up to get physical space to put a port on the chassis. The data from this port must be accessible by the motherboard.

The HDMI port did remove a thunderbolt port, and this is a huge setback for power users.

I'll never use this HDMI port, I don't want to impose a SDI port either. Just give my access to the PCI and I'll use the tools I need.

You hit the key point - it is about bandwidth.

The old MacBook Pros with four Thunderbolt ports only had two lanes. Each Thunderbolt port shared a lane.

The new MacBook Pros have a separate lane for each of the three Thunderbolt ports - so you are in fact getting much more bandwidth/performance. You have more PCI access.

If Apple wanted to limit performance, like they did with the old MacBook Pros, they could keep the HDMI port AND put six Thunderbolt ports on the machine!!!!

Personally, though, I think it’s much more honest to have each port be a dedicated lane. If you want more actual physical Thunderbolt plugs get a dongle to split the lane up.
 
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I’d really like to see the thinnest, lightest, smallest laptop they can make with a full sized keyboard.

The 12” MacBook was fatally flawed in performance, battery life, and keyboard longevity… Fix those issues though, and improve the design with today’s tech, and this would be the ultimate laptop.
 
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You hit the key point - it is about bandwidth.

The old MacBook Pros with four Thunderbolt ports only had two lanes. Each Thunderbolt port shared a lane.

The new MacBook Pros have a separate lane for each of the three Thunderbolt ports - so you are in fact getting much more bandwidth/performance. You have more PCI access.

If Apple wanted to limit performance, like they did with the old MacBook Pros, they could keep the HDMI port AND put six Thunderbolt ports on the machine!!!!

Personally, though, I think it’s much more honest to have each port be a dedicated lane. If you want more actual physical Thunderbolt plugs get a dongle to split the lane up.
well we kind of agree then.

but you want me to have a dongle to get more thunderbolt access (but with a limited bandwidth, so not really suitable for me)

and I want you to have a dongle to get HMDI access. but get a fourth full bandwidth thunderbolt port...

it's all about balance, but one can argue that imposing any port instead of a universal one is a limitation.
 
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Lol, not really. 14" and 16" are heavy, no way around it.
If you want light and capable you get the mb air. If you need a powerhouse of a machine with great battery.. you get the MacBook Pro.

I would hate to lose any ports (again) on the mbp, and the battery is superb.

I love going on two-three day trips where bringing charger may not be necessary, but I can still get a couple decent work sessions in.
 
So I hope the new Macbook pro with slimmer design will come this late 2024. There's no point to buy a macbook pro now. I'd buy a m4 ipad pro now instead.
 
I do not want or need a thinner MacBook Pro. My 16” max is awesome, and I don’t think I would ask for anything else.

I personally don’t believe it’s necessary and professionally wouldn’t want less battery life for the mbp, it’s a huge selling point to have that much battery available imo. If a person wants a thinner and still _very_ capable machine the MacBook Air and there.
 
if you can't see the advantages of having thunderbolt 4 port instead of a specific one, I can't argue with you.

your dongle hell is my dongle paradise. I can use my machine for multiple purpose. It's all about modularity.

but we know that Apple doesn't care that much about the pro segment anyway.
What about removing one speaker in exchange for another Thunderbolt port? Would that be good for you? As you seem to think the only way to get another Thunderbolt port is by removing a feature you don't like.

If Apple wanted more Thunderbolt ports they could provide them. As someone else pointed out, they each have their own dedicated PCI connection, which they didn't previously.
 
I’ve never been bothered about thinness although I do appreciate it but I don’t think it’s necessary. It’s only a minor inconvenience for me when travelling.
 
What about removing one speaker in exchange for another Thunderbolt port? Would that be good for you? As you seem to think the only way to get another Thunderbolt port is by removing a feature you don't like.
maybe read a little bit what I'm talking about here in this thread - with others user than you - and you'll get my point.

I'm not sh*tposting here. I do make a living with my MacBook Pro, work in the A/V industry. no one use this HDMI port, even when we need HDMI...

edit: MBP speakers are great btw.
 
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If you want light and capable you get the mb air. If you need a powerhouse of a machine with great battery.. you get the MacBook Pro.
In other words: "technological development should stop, weight cannot be reduced in either the Air or the MBP".
 
Another reason why the watch is not for me: needing to check (& reply to) text messages on a watch. Ridiculous. But that's just my opinion.
Me personally, I like checking notifications on my watch without having to pull my phone out of my pocket. While I hardly ever use my watch to reply back, my fiancé and her mother use speech-to-text to reply back to texts from their watches all the time. To each their own.
 
I’d prefer to see them before I judge. As long as battery life and performance are still good then I’m fine.
 
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let's hope they drop the HDMI port on MacBook Pro. HDMI is anything but pro.

if you're ready to concede a thunderbolt 4 port for an useless HDMI one, this shouldn't be a product made for you.

Every conference room in every company I have worked for has an HDMI cable/port. No one has usb-c/thunderbolt. What's more professional than that?

I use the HDMI port on my Dell work laptop more than any other port.
 
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I’d prefer to see them before I judge. As long as battery life and performance are still good then I’m fine.

What if they're so fragile you need to double the weight and thickness with a case, and the keyboard is unusable and dust sensitive again?
 
I don't really understand the chase for making everything as thin as possible, and I thought they were over it when they re-designed the 14" and 16" Pro.

On a pro machine battery life & cooling > thinness. That's the whole reason 2 product lines exist, if you want thin then the Air is the way to go.

The only thing I can see logically reducing the thickness is via replacing the MiniLED display with the Tandem OLED from the iPad.
 
A thinner Apple Watch is appealing. It’s about the only Apple product I’d currently class as being a bit too thick.

For the other products, they are already thin enough, and making them thinner would only result in compromises with build strength, ports, thermal throttling or battery life.
 
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I understand those who wish not to have less battery power in mb pro. However, hoping that battery will remain the same, a reduced weight won't hurt, for example a 16inch mbpro now is over 2kg. If Apple manage to cut 200grams or so, it would be great
 
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