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This is a JOKE it's only to fight off the "right to repair" laws.... You have to be insane to pay apple for parts and tool rental and attempt to fix one of the closed systems... Ok pay $3,500 for a MBP and let me take it apart and attempt to fix it. Then you screw it up and have to take it to Apple. I read here someone did a repair from parts from E-bay and hey only lost True Tone functionally....No thanks....We had an Authorized Apple repair facility for 30 years and would not recommend home users doing these repairs.....
This person done everything correctly, but lost True Tone because of Apple’s lunacy, irresponsibility, and deep overall hate towards their customer base.
 
You are incredibly wrong.

iFixit started as a way for people to publish repair guides for Apple products when Apple kept the service manuals a secret. This lead to them promoting the right to repair because Apple was so hostile about the information.

They later added the business, selling high quality parts and tools. They're one of the few suppliers I'll trust for lithium ion batteries. And their tools are excellent quality, the only failures I've ever had with them are tiny pentalobe bits, and those are so inherently fragile that even Wera drivers don't last long. iFixit tools also have a lifetime warranty, so just like Wera they'll replace bits that fail, even if they're used in a repair business.

I'm not. They used to be that company. They are not any more.

Check out their Trustpilot reviews.

I have two of their toolkits for ref. They aren't great quality. In fact some of the bits appear to be made of rather poor quality metals as they are showing corrosion despite being in a very low humidity environment. I have been slowly replacing them with Wera stuff which lasts a lot longer and doesn't corrode.

Their plastic guitar picks are pretty damn good though.

Edit: note I probably actually repair a lot more stuff then most of the people commenting on the right to repair debate. I can spot bad parts and bad tools a mile away and iFixit is at best mediocre.
 
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You do understand that True Tone on their machine does not work because of Apple’s hostile opposition to Right to Repair and to anything good in this world? Also known as serialisation of parts.

Which is why we should never stop. We’ve pushed them far enough to open this stupid Self Service program. We’ll push them towards publishing schematics. We’ll push them towards not serialising parts, or at least not sabotaging your device after you’ve repaired it yourself. We’ll push them towards allowing chips to be bought independently, because otherwise, it’s not a repair, it’s just an overpriced and wasteful replacement of big modular parts.

Just so you can sleep safely, knowing that your Apple device can be repaired easily at any time, with no scam pricing markups, so you won’t have to throw away your $3000 motherboard just because one of the chips has failed on it.

By «us» I mean society as a whole, of course.
First, laptops/phones that get stolen and parted is a huge business (stolen in the around the world, shipped in HK/Shen Zhen) and then parted out and resold on eBay or used as "OEM" parts of some repair shops. And the ship has long ago sailed that an average joe can fix any sort of integrated electronics in this timeline.
 
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Looking at the realities of physics, design/desirability, cost of materials, value, roi and other metrics, a company decides to make a thing. Understanding that they will NEVER be able to build a product for everyone, they lean into specific areas to make a product that provides a value for enough of the people while deemphasizing areas that they feel are not as valuable to the folks they’re targeting (like repairability).

The upshot of that is that there are products on the market made primarily for customers that care little about repairability because people who say they care about repairability will still buy products that are not repairable. Whereas, folks that value the look and feel of a device but NOT repairability will not buy a bad looking, extremely repairable device.
 
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You do understand that True Tone on their machine does not work because of Apple’s hostile opposition to Right to Repair and to anything good in this world? Also known as serialisation of parts.

Which is why we should never stop. We’ve pushed them far enough to open this stupid Self Service program. We’ll push them towards publishing schematics. We’ll push them towards not serialising parts, or at least not sabotaging your device after you’ve repaired it yourself. We’ll push them towards allowing chips to be bought independently, because otherwise, it’s not a repair, it’s just an overpriced and wasteful replacement of big modular parts.

Just so you can sleep safely, knowing that your Apple device can be repaired easily at any time, with no scam pricing markups, so you won’t have to throw away your $3000 motherboard just because one of the chips has failed on it.

By «us» I mean society as a whole, of course.

Yep, that's EXACTLY why True Tone isn't working on that Mac. There's nothing wrong with the hardware, it's Apple's parts pairing, it's purely a software issue.

I've got a MacBook Air that doesn't have keyboard backlight because I swapped the screen. There's nothing wrong with the screen, nothing wrong with the MBA, but because the screen isn't paired it doesn't recognize the ambient light sensor and disables the keyboard backlight. I know exactly how to turn it back on, but I can't because Apple wouldn't enable it unless I ordered a new screen. It's definitely software, the backlight works fine at boot before I put in the FileVault password.

At some point I'll probably run a bodge wire to turn it on permanently when the computer is powered on.
 
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First, laptops/phones that get stolen and parted is a huge business (stolen in the around the world, shipped in HK/Shen Zhen) and then parted out and resold on eBay or used as "OEM" parts of some repair shops. And the ship has long ago sailed that an average joe can fix any sort of integrated electronics in this timeline.
So? If Apple cared, they’d come up with a solution to this — like if the part is scraped off from a Lost Mode device, then it would not work at all; there would be an option to untie the part from the device, if you are legit owner of the phone and want to scrape it for parts because some other part has died, etc.

Buy they don’t care. But they will be forced to at some point.


There is nothing simpler than replacing an iPhone battery, and I’d argue that screen replacements are also easy. Which is two primary reasons why people service their phones.
 
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This is a JOKE it's only to fight off the "right to repair" laws.... You have to be insane to pay apple for parts and tool rental and attempt to fix one of the closed systems... Ok pay $3,500 for a MBP and let me take it apart and attempt to fix it. Then you screw it up and have to take it to Apple. I read here someone did a repair from parts from E-bay and hey only lost True Tone functionally....No thanks....We had an Authorized Apple repair facility for 30 years and would not recommend home users doing these repairs.....

A logic board swap isn't that hard for anybody good at working with tiny parts. And no, that's not everybody. But that certainly doesn't mean they shouldn't have the right to repair it themselves or take it to a 3rd party non-'authorized' shop.

And... you say you HAD an authorized shop. Apple effectively forced you out, didn't they? I know the thing that forced out the shop I worked with was pricing, the part cost was what the Apple store was charging for parts and labor, and at the same time warranty reimbursement rate went down.
 
Tesla is hostile in general.

Ford will happily sell you EV parts. They even sell Mustang crate motors if you want to build your own: https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9000-MACHE

That MSRP actually doesn't seem outrageous for a motor either. I'm also very interested in blue cruise - Consumer Reports says its their Top-Rated Active Driving Assistance System.

The other thing holding me back is I want three rows - I like taking my elderly parents along with my family of four to various places, plus we always seem to have the kids' friends in the car. Hopefully they have a Ford EV three row SUV soon. I would consider Kia EV9, except a friend had real issues getting Kia Niro EV battery replaced under warranty just months after purchase. Even my friends with gas Kias like Stingers, Telluride - they sale the sales experience and the post-sales experience have been awful.
 
I'm not. They used to be that company. They are not any more.

Check out their Trustpilot reviews.

I have two of their toolkits for ref. They aren't great quality. In fact some of the bits appear to be made of rather poor quality metals as they are showing corrosion despite being in a very low humidity environment. I have been slowly replacing them with Wera stuff which lasts a lot longer and doesn't corrode.

Their plastic guitar picks are pretty damn good though.

Edit: note I probably actually repair a lot more stuff then most of the people commenting on the right to repair debate. I can spot bad parts and bad tools a mile away and iFixit is at best mediocre.

I've never had corrosion issues with mine, and I'm in a pretty high humidity climate.

It has been a few years since I've bought any, so there may have been a quality drop.

I've got a couple of their kits, and the Manta's steel isn't quite as good as the older 54-bit set, but it's not what I'd call bad. And sure, Wera is somewhat better steel, but not good enough to keep the pentalobe drivers intact, and definitely not good enough for the prices they charge.

I also need portability over almost anything else, I'm typically onsite instead of sitting at a well equipped bench, so I need a bit set instead of individual drivers.
 
This is a JOKE it's only to fight off the "right to repair" laws.... You have to be insane to pay apple for parts and tool rental and attempt to fix one of the closed systems... Ok pay $3,500 for a MBP and let me take it apart and attempt to fix it. Then you screw it up and have to take it to Apple. I read here someone did a repair from parts from E-bay and hey only lost True Tone functionally....No thanks....We had an Authorized Apple repair facility for 30 years and would not recommend home users doing these repairs.....
The only reason True Tone was lost is because Apple imposes artificial limitations to prevent people from fixing things without paying Apple in some way or another. In this case I would’ve needed a “calibration tool” to pair the display to the main board.

Get bent. How many displays can be moved between machines and still work just fine? Only every single one.

The repair itself was actually quite easy. Just don’t be a ham fist and it’s fine. Learn to fix your own stuff.
 
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First, laptops/phones that get stolen and parted is a huge business (stolen in the around the world, shipped in HK/Shen Zhen) and then parted out and resold on eBay or used as "OEM" parts of some repair shops. And the ship has long ago sailed that an average joe can fix any sort of integrated electronics in this timeline.
The average Joe has a harder time only because companies hate consumers and design things to be anti-repair.

Second, I myself, a lowly musician, came up with a way to both prevent parts from theft rings and still allow easy recycling and repair. If I can come up with such a solution, you can guarantee Apple can and refuses to. The theft argument holds zero water.

Oh yeah, and thieves have tools to break the software locks anyway. Invalid argument all the way around.
 
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Well SSD and RAM are upgrades, not repairs. You can absolutely change the battery of a modern MacBook without “desoldering or melting glues,” it’s almost as easy as on that 12-year-old MacBook, and the battery is significantly larger and longer-lasting while the computer is substantially smaller and lighter. And you can actually replace a modern MacBook screen without removing any adhesive whatsoever.

But that’s not really what I was referring to. Apple devices have certainly gotten less upgradable over the years, but they’ve clearly worked to increase repairability in the last few years. For example, battery replacements are much easier on M-series MacBooks than they were at the end of the Intel era, and the iPhone 15s are probably the most repairable iPhones ever.
SDD and RAM are repairs if the hard drive or RAM fail. The RAM in my 2014 MBPr failed and I have no way to repair that.

Yes, batteries in MBs are easier than late Intel age. I’ll give them that and that alone.
 
The average Joe has a harder time only because companies hate consumers and design things to be anti-repair.

Second, I myself, a lowly musician, came up with a way to both prevent parts from theft rings and still allow easy recycling and repair. If I can come up with such a solution, you can guarantee Apple can and refuses to. The theft argument holds zero water.

Oh yeah, and thieves have tools to break the software locks anyway. Invalid argument all the way around.
Perhaps reexamine that train of thought if you can really call it that. Why would companies hate consumers? Companies are in the business of making money. For a hardware business like Apple it means make a product that people want to buy, at a premium price that some are willing to pay, and at a high quality level because of that premium (and also warranties cost money). There needs to be no malicious intent in any of those steps, they see no reason to make products more self repair friendly because thats not the point of the business (lower failure rates and a good paid repair program is much more important to future sales).

Modern miniaturized electronics, especially laptops and phones in 2024, have moved so far from what it was two decades ago that very few people are actually able to fix them at home. It's a reality that shouldn't really be argued at this point.

And please share how you can prevent part from being reused? You seem so confident that your solution would work so please do share
 
Perhaps reexamine that train of thought if you can really call it that. Why would companies hate consumers? Companies are in the business of making money. For a hardware business like Apple it means make a product that people want to buy, at a premium price that some are willing to pay, and at a high quality level because of that premium (and also warranties cost money). There needs to be no malicious intent in any of those steps, they see no reason to make products more self repair friendly because thats not the point of the business (lower failure rates and a good paid repair program is much more important to future sales).

Modern miniaturized electronics, especially laptops and phones in 2024, have moved so far from what it was two decades ago that very few people are actually able to fix them at home. It's a reality that shouldn't really be argued at this point.

And please share how you can prevent part from being reused? You seem so confident that your solution would work so please do share
Simple: Check the iCloud activation status of the parts altogether. If the phone they came from was deactivated before disassembly, just like selling a complete phone, then they would be accepted by the new device.
 
Modern miniaturized electronics, especially laptops and phones in 2024, have moved so far from what it was two decades ago that very few people are actually able to fix them at home. It's a reality that shouldn't really be argued at this point.
Framework laptops would beg to differ.

Engineers are smart people, and they can make modular designs if they want, even today.
 
It pisses me off that they still use pentalobe screws, even though these are expected to be repairable and it costs more money for Apple to source these screws.
 
Allow me to enlighten you.

When a "self repair" program costs more than taking it to the "authorized repair center," that's just Apple monetizing the fact that you're smart and industrious.

The whole point of acquiring and developing skills is to solve problems for yourself, save money, make economic gain, etc. This is Apple's most ingeniously-malicious compliance yet. Not to mention filthy hypocrisy. They try to make it as enticing as possible to just buy a whole new computer, loading our landfills with otherwise-salvageable machines.

I got lucky with my mom's M1 Macbook Air and was able to replace it with an eBay salvage screen for $200, and only lost True Tone. Otherwise she would have had to replace the entire thing.

Oh, and in case you somehow believe the lies that "authorized technicians" are the only way to get quality work done, let me tell you the number of times I've had an "authorized technician" do the job correctly, whether on my Apple products, car, bike, or anything else I own: ZERO.

Let me tell you the number of times everyone I know has had something come back from an "authorized technician" properly fixed: ZERO.

I would somewhat disagree on the cost. The self service repair store sells the M1 MacBook Air screen for $307.12 when you recycle the old/broken display. Is it slightly more expensive? Sure. But I get a new screen and know it’s genuine.

I do agree it’s just a monetization move regardless. Apple definitely makes the choice to limit repair ability and cheaper (used or 3rd party) parts by disabling true tone after an “unauthorized” display swap.
 
I feel this is well intentioned but mostly unpractical and actually counterproductive for the environment. Delivering and posting back all those support materials has a carbon footprint too.

And its all because the products are not made with repair in mind in the first instance.
impractical
 
Much more expensive and worse than Macbook.
You’ve clearly never even bothered to learn anything about Framework because they are about $3-400 cheaper than MacBooks, spec for spec.

Try again.
 
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