It would be extremely hilarious if Jony was simply busy with Apple Park throughout all of that and hated the keyboards as well but everyone blamed him for it anyway.
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IF you're using them for just data, sure. If you're sending DP or HDMI streams out over one or two, of them, that controller has no such contention for lanes.
And, surprise surprise, not every devices needs the full 40Gbps of bandwidth, or doesn't need it constantly.
No the old machines don't.
But if you're just going to assume a new HDMI port would be HDMI 2.1, I'm just going to assume a new USB-C port would be DP2.0, and support up to 80Gbps. I'm a little rusty but last time I checked, 80 is more than 48.
Your entire premise for this scenario is that a new HDMI port will definitely be 2.1, but ignores that a USB-C port with DP2.0 can provide more than enough bandwidth to satisfy HDMI 2.1, while still being compatible with all the other devices that use a TB3/USB4/TB4 port.
So sure, updated ports with support for newer versions of video transmission protocols is good, but a HDMI port is still an inferior choice to a port that can adapt to anything, including HDMI.
He was certainly busy, with industrial and architectural design. But everyone acts like he is doing the product engineering. When Ive isn’t there, everyone understands that Schiller’s team designed the new keyboard. I guess their theory is the design team designs everything about the product that they don’t like, but the engineering team designs everything else.
Oh definitely. My favourite example is the iPhone 11 vs 12, where the 11 was proof of Ive's reduced influence because we got better battery life but the 12 is proof of Ive's hand because thinness (worst thing in the world I heard).
I think Apple was just working with what they had. Intel has been holding their hardware back for a long time. I'm not sure how developing a butterfly keyboard has anything to do with it, but I'm sure glad that thing is gone forever. Blech.
I can tell you one big reason, USB-c, both the connector and the socket, wear out. They become less and less capable to maintain a connection. My work laptop can't use one of it's USB-c ports and the other one is already loose, and it's only 4 years old. (and it only charges via USB-c) I would love to go back to a real power only port.
It hurts you if your configuration at home and at work are built around ultra flexible ports such as USB-C/TB. If you have to take away 2 of those in order to have other ports, it TOTALLY hurts you.
SD-Card? I can see if you’re a photographer. I’d bet 95% of the MacBook Pros sold aren’t going to photographers. It may help if you’re in video. Do you think that 20% of the total market for the MacBook Pros are people working in video and photography? Do you think 30-40%? I wouldn’t be surprised if total user base is 15% are wanting it to return.
That is a rash generalization. If you have one hooked up to the display, the display gives power back to the MacBook Pro. In addition, because TB displays have 3 or 4 TB cables that it can run with.
the number of people running four external monitors off their MacBook Pro is even smaller than the number running 3, which is smaller than the number running 2, which is smaller than the number running 1. The vast majority of folks are not using all four of their usb-c ports ever. Having 3 is fine. And since they will likely run at full speed, for those who really need 4, a thunderbolt or usb-4 hub will give you your port back (at half speed, which is no worse than you already have with the intel macs, which cannot run all four ports simultaneously at full speed anyway)
That’s what I like about MagSafe on the laptops — it takes care of the one connection you know you’re make and break and make and break through the life of the machine, without having to worry about wear. That’s more important to me than the oops-kicked-a-cord part.
And what percentage of all users do you think will actually be forced to modify their configuration because of this constraint?
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Also, keep in mind many folks use bus-powered ssds. Those, in heavy use, will take their toll on the battery. Another argument for a dedicated power port.
Also, keep in mind many folks use bus-powered ssds. Those, in heavy use, will take their toll on the battery. Another argument for a dedicated power port.
If you can find me space in the MBA for MagSafe and 2 usb c ports.
Here's a current sideview. First off, a port could move to the right hand side. Secondly, you probably have some room to slide down and marginally reduce the space between them. The logic board side of these ports is fairly narrow.
Plus the bottom of the new MBAs will be flat - in other words, the side edge extends downward all the way to the bottom, and does not curve inward. Therefore the side edges are taller, even though the machine does not get thicker.Here's a current sideview. First off, a port could move to the right hand side. Secondly, you probably have some room to slide down and marginally reduce the space between them. The logic board side of these ports is fairly narrow.
still waiting for Apple to produce a portrait macbook pro. would be better ergonomics.
12-inch horizontal X 16-inch vertical screen would be great
12-inch horizontal X 16-inch vertical screen would be great
I hope you’re not holding your breath for that specific product. It’s never happening.
Would sorta suck for any kind of document creation work, where you are looking at two things at once.
I think SD and HDMI are awesome.
SD - Its great to transfer photos from the camera without a cable. But also, this opens the possibility of semi-permanently mounted SD cards to expand storage. They used to do this on the old retina MacBook Pros, a few companies sold SD cards that would mount flush with the computer and give you basically a second internal drive.
Imagine being able to add 512GB or 1TB to your MacBook Pro after having the computer a while already -- for less than Apple charges for an equivalent upgrade at time of purchase. Perfect for those who want extra space to store movies, media, etc. without eating up SSD space (which seems to be stuck at 256GB as a base capacity for a decade now).
HDMI - Perfect for travelers and presenters. Finally, I'd be able to hook up to hotel's and AirBNB's TV's and play/stream whatever I want without having to bring a dongle. It may not seem like a huge deal but when you are traveling and frequently packing/unpacking having less cords and cables to worry about is a big deal. Same goes for those who use laptops for presentations.
Is it worth losing some ports for it? For me, yes, given that I am currently using those ports on dongles to provide these two functions.
I am not sure who needs 4 thunderbolts occupied at the same time to a laptop (without any of those being an SD reader or a HDMI cable) but for those people I would turn it around on them and say get a dongle haha.
SD - Its great to transfer photos from the camera without a cable. But also, this opens the possibility of semi-permanently mounted SD cards to expand storage. They used to do this on the old retina MacBook Pros, a few companies sold SD cards that would mount flush with the computer and give you basically a second internal drive.
Imagine being able to add 512GB or 1TB to your MacBook Pro after having the computer a while already -- for less than Apple charges for an equivalent upgrade at time of purchase. Perfect for those who want extra space to store movies, media, etc. without eating up SSD space (which seems to be stuck at 256GB as a base capacity for a decade now).
HDMI - Perfect for travelers and presenters. Finally, I'd be able to hook up to hotel's and AirBNB's TV's and play/stream whatever I want without having to bring a dongle. It may not seem like a huge deal but when you are traveling and frequently packing/unpacking having less cords and cables to worry about is a big deal. Same goes for those who use laptops for presentations.
Is it worth losing some ports for it? For me, yes, given that I am currently using those ports on dongles to provide these two functions.
I am not sure who needs 4 thunderbolts occupied at the same time to a laptop (without any of those being an SD reader or a HDMI cable) but for those people I would turn it around on them and say get a dongle haha.
Okay but if you think about it the port number will be the same because if you have a MagSafe charger and 3 USB-C it’s the same as having 4 USB-Cs when one of them has to be eaten up by a power cord.
I am sure if you have a workload that requires multiple usb-c full power/speed accessories plugged in at all times for sure you’re not doing that on battery.
And now with HDMI and SD being their own ports also you can really have way more things plugged in than current high end units would allow anyway.
So really the rumored new models don’t make you “lose” anything if you think about it.
Meh. This point is a lot weaker now that we're getting more efficient chips that can make better use of the batteries within these computers.
I mean, a TB display/dock that offers more ports + passthrough charging is an option.
Technically not, considering you've lost one very expandable port you could have used.
Too many caveats for me to really agree tbh.