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Then folks would complain about the $100 increase because of 256.
What is was getting at is Apple don’t have to match s23 ultra because people buys the iPhone regardless.
Samsung have to keep improving there cameras with like 200mp because it needs to convert people to buy.
 
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Dude, you're embarrassing yourself. You literally have no idea what you're talking about, bs like the other guy.

A wedding photographer using an iPhone, my god.
Google it dude. You are for some reason ignoring the facts. It's being done.

 
Because we like to drip feed everything. Samsung have has 5X since 2020 and 10X since 2021. Huwawei had it even before Samsung. Oh well the joys of being in the Apple ecosystem.
So what you’re saying is that since Samsung didn’t put 10X in the 2020 phone, they were drip feeding features then just like Apple did now.
 
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You claim to have exclusively dropped dslr's and mirrorless cameras since 2013, so the iPhone 5s, IF you had the most recent phone, and also claim to be an enthusiast photographer.

*cough* bs *cough*

That's the problem with these forums, people post such bs all the time and claim to be what they aren't.

Almost 10 years. And with a 5s, followed by a 6+, an X, a 12PM, and a 14 PM.

"That's the problem with these forums, people post such bs all the time and claim to be what they aren't."

I have a bunch of photographs on this forum from past postings on the photography forums and have been shooting for about 15-20 years. Please feel free to take a look.

That you believe photography is about gear, well, to me, that speaks volumes. I'd love to see your "enthusiast" photos.

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I like asking people "what do you shoot?"

If the answer is, "I shoot with 7D and 70 - 200 zoom." That tells me something. No need to talk further.

If the answer is "I shoot documentary photos of people in underserved areas in large cities," that tells me something else and would love to talk photo projects over a beer.
 
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Dude, you're embarrassing yourself. You literally have no idea what you're talking about, bs like the other guy.

A wedding photographer using an iPhone, my god.


 
Apple's strategy is to hold onto some innovation and each year release a few just to drum up hype for next year. By doing so it will give time for the tech to mature.

Samsung on the other hand will release new ideas and "hope" that they work. They will also let the consumer try out new tech and "test" them. If they don't work, they will remove them for the following year.

There are good and bad for this and it will depend on the customer base.
You're not entirely wrong. This is a philosophical difference between the two companies. Samsung throws everything against the wall and sometimes something cool sticks, while Apple is much more deliberate, sometimes to a fault. But this is why it's good they both exist.
 
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"Telephoto lens" and "zoom lens" are not synonyms. There are plenty of ultrawide angle zoom lenses that would be completely useless for allowing you to take pictures of things that are far away.
And, there are zoom lenses that ARE good for folks to take pictures of things that are far away. They are not synonymous, but some zoom lenses do work like telephoto lenses. Some don’t.
 
Tony Northrup has uploaded a video about Apple's cheating that might deserve its own thread:
He got most things right except that the quad pixels of course really give you more resolution.
I thought that video was hilarious. He just stopped short of saying « snake oil » though it was implied. Anyway, I have an 11 pro Max, the thing is too big so Max, never more. Maybe can justify moving from the 11 Pro Max to the 15 Pro. Camera should be incrementally better.
 
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Almost 10 years. And with a 5s, followed by a 6+, an X, a 12PM, and a 14 PM.

"That's the problem with these forums, people post such bs all the time and claim to be what they aren't."

I have a bunch of photographs on this forum from past postings on the photography forums. Please feel free to take a look.

That you believe photography is about gear, well, to me, that speaks volumes. I'd love to see your "enthusiast" photos.
Your shots are very good, I'm impressed.

My most recent shot I am highly proud of was a tele shot of an alligators eyes where my reflection from the boardwalk is clearly visible in the eye reflection. Not possible with a phone.
 
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Google it dude. You are for some reason ignoring the facts. It's being done.

The people pushing a phone app and selling photo books you create on your phone are telling you to use a phone instead of a camera. LOL
 
That’s not it Apple just deliberately hold things back. It’s not that they can’t do it
They chose not too. Because they need to hold things back to get people to upgrade. Apple could easily match Samsung’s camera tech but chose not to as people will buy apple’s phone regardless.
They easily could, but it comes with compromises. Apple's only has half the focal length, but at the same time it gathers around 3 times as much light as Samsung's. Leading to better photos in more varied lighting conditions. You don't like it, that's fine, but it's not a case of "they can't match Samsung", they made a choice to restrain the focal length in trade for more light and more reliable stabilization.
 
My most recent shot I am highly proud of was a tele shot of an alligators eyes where my reflection from the boardwalk is clearly visible in the eye reflection. Not possible with a phone.

Most of my photos are of people I engaged in very underserved neighborhoods in San Francisco, such as the Tenderloin and other neighborhoods. Day and night. Many people consider that neighborhood dangerous.

I would love to see your similar photos with whatever you shoot with.

In other words... Good photography is not about gear. It's about the photographer, life experiences, ability to see, evaluate light, deciding what to include/exclude in the frame, evaluating environmental context, deciding what to drop in the shadows, finding subject matter that spurs a viewer's imagination to release potential narratives, and on and on.

It's not about having the best gear. That's merely about camera ownership - anyone can do that with a credit card.
 
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Also, as mentioned, you'd be likely crippling the aperture for everyone because in a phone format, it's pretty hard to build an f/2.8 lens for a 10X focal length (hence why Samsung's is f/4.9).
This is really important. f4.9 is slow as molasses for a sensor that small. It would even be pushing it for a DSLR/mirrorless camera because of the ISO compromises it introduces.

I already struggle with the f2.8 of the telephoto lens on an iPhone. I’m glad Apple did not introduce anything that requires an aperture of f4.9 to work, because that would be unusable to me.

Given the small sensors in an iPhone, in my view Apple should be pushing for faster f stops, not more reach just to match a bullet point on a spec sheet.
 
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Agreed. I used it back on the 21 ultra and even then it was stable. The Samsung watches can also measure blood pressure and the Apple watch can't seem to do that. Waited all these years for better zoom on the iphone and still not close to Samsung.

The gains in zoom by Apple have been pitiful. We had 2 x on the iphone 7 in 2016. Then had to wait until another 4 years to get to 2.5 x zoom. Then the following year got a measly 3x when Samsung already had 10X by that point. Now 5 X two years later.
There's a body mass sensor on the Samsung watch as well, that doesn't work properly either 🤣
Zoom lenses on phones are very much compromised (all manufacturers) and pure PR, thankfully more and more people are beginning to realise this
 
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