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peterlaca

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Simple...performance. The efficiency of hardware and software design in the Apple ecosystem blows away Android. This is a perfect example of the sum being more than the parts. Specs are meaningless if the performance of the device doesn't follow. The Geekbench numbers on the A11 chip alone (both on single and multi-core) leaves the Android devices in the dust. Add in the implementation of true facial recognition (not the half-assed Android implementation) the AR capabilities and the advanced lensing and processing of images...and there's no contest. Android people love getting hung up in specs that do not translate into real life performance. One example is megapixel count.... Any photographer or videographer will tell you that pixel count alone is not an indicator of image quality. In short....the new iPhone X will be the device to beat for some time to come.
 
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Superhappytree

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The only advantages from this list that the S6 has over the X are the top two which are the thickness and the slightly higher water resistance rating. The rest are a mute point and are again just a fancy spec sheet to brag about when time has proven over and over again that these really don't matter. Let's see...

Camera - Mega pixels don't equal better photos. I thought we all realised this in 2017? And anyway, doesn't the S8 actually have a lower resolution camera (12MP)?

Screen - Again, just bragging rights. The people who have actually had a 'hands on' with the iPhone X have all praised it and said that the screen quality was amazing. There comes a point where anything over 400 ppi is perfectly fine and you can't see individual pixels. And doesn't the S8 have their screens set to 1080P as the default setting anyway? Not only that, but they have it set to 'adaptive display' which is the most inaccurate and oversaturated setting they have. Apple doesn't even have the option, they instead have theirs collaborated to be as accurate as possible out of the box without the user having to dig into the settings. Yes, the S8 has an accurate display setting but most users don't even know about this and don't bother changing it because they think that the adaptive setting is how it's supposed to look. It may make the colours 'pop', but it is still an inaccurate representation of images and video. For example; if you want to watch a movie how it's intended to look, or shop on Amazon and see the true colours of that shirt you want to buy etc.

Storage - Yeah, you kinda missed out the part where Apple offers that 256GB option there which Samsung doesn't. And this makes it look as though Apple has just caught up with offering a 64GB option when they've had it since the 4S. Also, yes you could argue that the S6 has expandable memory but it actually didn't with the S6 until they reintroduced it again with the S7 due to complaints. Anyway, expandable storage is inferior as it is slower and you constantly have to juggle between where you want to store stuff. I'd rather have everything on the device without having this worry, plus it's faster to access at that.

CPU - If there was ever an argument where "numbers aren't everything" then this would be it. An 8 core CPU that is still slower than Apples measly 6 core. Do we really need to go over this one? I think Android fans can admit that Apple has the superior chip performers in their iOS devices by a long mile at this point.

RAM - See above. All about that management.

Wifi - They've always been the same.

NFC - Wait, didn't Apple popularise this and actually move it forward? At least that is what I believe when they introduced Apple Pay.

Wireless charging - Yes, Samsung had this one first. Personally I don't care for it even though the iPhone now has it. People make a big deal about it in the tech community but I just don't see it as necessary until we have long range. That would be true wireless charging. I believe Apple implement this just to shut those complainers up.

Headphone jack - Ah, the elephant in the room. It's really unfair to compare this to a 2014 phone when the iPhone back then had it. Many aren't even bothered by this as some people like to think as proven by the iPhone 7 sales. Some of those people are actually glad because now they have their AirPods which they find more convenient and I've read many people say how they could never go back to wired. Then you get the disgruntled bunch that are more vocal and mainly complain on tech forums. Like it or not, wireless everything is the future. We had start at some point and Android handsets are beginning to follow suite. Also, are we really going to be complaining about annoying wired headphones in 5 to 10 years time? We'll probably look back and laugh at how we had to put up with such nuisance.
 
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rui no onna

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CPU - If there was ever an argument where "numbers aren't everything" then this would be it. An 8 core CPU that is still slower than Apples measly 6 core. Do we really need to go over this one? I think Android fans can admit that Apple has the superior chip performers in their iOS devices by a long mile at this point.
Lol, I expect Intel is pretty envious of what Apple's chip team is able to accomplish at the given power envelope. The most impressive part is I believe the high efficiency cores might actually be up to A9-level performance now. Perhaps even exceed it.
 
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jsmith189

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Lol, someone really put in the time and effort to share this with their Facebook friends. I don't need to defend anything.
 

Septembersrain

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Samsung is noodle cup...
never delicious and fresh like apple

beat it ...

I've lived most of my life off cup noodles.

Apples are better for you health wise but they are boring. Seriously though, food comparisons are hilarious.
 

eoblaed

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People that compare phones based on individual spec parts don't understand why Apple fans get Apple products. It's about the whole experience ... which despite 'inferior' specs is often far superior than competing products. It's also about the built-in, tight, and seamless integration across platforms, devices, and OSes. The way all my products work automatically with one another is amazing and something I'd never give up.

That said, it's still nice to see things like this:

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...hip-beat-samsunng-galaxy-s8-oneplus-5-1751598

That's the iPhone X destroying the S8 in geekbench scores. Again, performance metrics really are a far secondary consideration to the overall quality of the user experience, but just I'd share it anyway.
 

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People that compare phones based on individual spec parts don't understand why Apple fans get Apple products. It's about the whole experience ... which despite 'inferior' specs is often far superior than competing products. It's also about the built-in, tight, and seamless integration across platforms, devices, and OSes. The way all my products work automatically with one another is amazing and something I'd never give up.

That said, it's still nice to see things like this:

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...hip-beat-samsunng-galaxy-s8-oneplus-5-1751598

That's the iPhone X destroying the S8 in geekbench scores. Again, performance metrics really are a far secondary consideration to the overall quality of the user experience, but just I'd share it anyway.

Only individual component I'm super buggy about is the damn modem. Intel has not been kind to me on T-Mobile. Apple is fine everywhere else but where I need it most. My signal, my data.
 

Duncanator

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I will use iOS and Android interchangeably. I currently use a Note 8. I get SICK AND TIRED of seeing people try to defend their purchase by bashing another phone. iPhones are great and so are Android phones. They ALL do what we need them to do and more. Find what works and use it. Stop trying to make yourself feel better by bashing another phone.
 

Closingracer

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People that compare phones based on individual spec parts don't understand why Apple fans get Apple products. It's about the whole experience ... which despite 'inferior' specs is often far superior than competing products. It's also about the built-in, tight, and seamless integration across platforms, devices, and OSes. The way all my products work automatically with one another is amazing and something I'd never give up.

That said, it's still nice to see things like this:

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...hip-beat-samsunng-galaxy-s8-oneplus-5-1751598

That's the iPhone X destroying the S8 in geekbench scores. Again, performance metrics really are a far secondary consideration to the overall quality of the user experience, but just I'd share it anyway.
You're also comparing a phone that came out in April and phones with the same soc as those in April to a phone that isn't out yet. If you want to to play that game the S9 I would assume will kill the iPhone 8 with the 845? I mean you can say that but you're then comparing a phone that will come out in Spring 2018 to a fall 2017 phone.... Seriously who cares. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S8 plus after having am iPhone 6 plus and a 7 abs all are great phones. Might buy an iPhone X as well.
 
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Juan007

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It isn't and has never been about specs. The iPhone X outperforms every other phone on the market in every benchmark, does it still matter how many cores it has?

How many cores does your car have? Why do you care? You are focusing on the wrong metrics, and until you get it right, you'll continue to look like a clown.
 

se1000

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I haven't seen a single source say the X is using AMOLED. I just looked as well. There are people speculating the X may use a pentile layout. However, AMOLED is a type of pentile display and they are thus not the same thing. If that's what @se1000 meant by 'good grief', then he best provide some sources to back up the snark.

Code:
https://youtu.be/ct-mHwAb3g4?t=10m20s
 

se1000

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Maybe you're confused, because the video said OLED, not specifically AMOLED. Again, I'll await your source detailing the fact that the X is using AMOLED.

So you're saying the X is using PMOLED? If it's not AMOLED, and we know from the horse's mouth that it's OLED, then WHAT THE HELL IS IT????????????????
 

vipergts2207

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So you're saying the X is using PMOLED? If it's not AMOLED, and we know from the horse's mouth that it's OLED, then WHAT THE HELL IS IT????????????????

I don't know, I didn't design the phone or supply the parts for it. I'm also not going around pretending like I'm the one with all the answers either, with no sources. Maybe you should go back and reread what I originally said. FFS.
 

Septembersrain

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So you're saying the X is using PMOLED? If it's not AMOLED, and we know from the horse's mouth that it's OLED, then WHAT THE HELL IS IT????????????????

I don't know, I didn't design the phone or supply the parts for it. I'm also not going around pretending like I'm the one with all the answers either, with no sources. Maybe you should go back and reread what I originally said. FFS.

I think it's safe to say we're all curious here. As stated earlier, guess we'll have to wait for the teardown.

As for me, Intel inside, not gonna buy.
 

se1000

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I don't know, I didn't design the phone or supply the parts for it. I'm also not going around pretending like I'm the one with all the answers either, with no sources. Maybe you should go back and reread what I originally said. FFS.

It's AMOLED. It's not a guess. Every OLED panel in a phone is AMOLED. Google it, look it up in Wikipedia.
 
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vipergts2207

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It's AMOLED. It's not a guess. Every OLED panel in a phone is AMOLED. Google it, look it up in Wikipedia.

If that's indeed the case then tech news outlets are doing a poor reporting job. Comparisons I've seen between the iPhone X and Galaxy S8 reference the screens as OLED and Super AMOLED respectively, as if the tech in the two phones are different.

The practically exhaustive list of devices on the AMOLED wiki article also does not include the iPhone X, which is a seemingly significant omission.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED#Uses
 
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thedropout

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I saw it on facebook as well. Once you learn that every company (ford vs chevy, apple vs pc, android vs apple) has fan boys, and every company produces some junk products you can really look at things more openly. I think wireless charging is dumb. My android has it, just as simple to plug the phone in. NFC is nice for certain things. I use it in my cars a lot with the nfc stickers. In my classic cars when i put the phone into the phone holder the nfc automatically opens up my gauges app. As well as in my other car it opens maps when i place it in the holder and turns on pandora. Ive never touched phones with anyone to share anything. Every phone has there place. the iphone is not perfect for everyone and android is not perfect for everyone. That image is just a joke to the average iphone user who buys the newest iphone as a status symbol. Im going from samsung to the iphone 8 because i dont want curved edge to edge displays. I just want something that will last 4 years and is small enough to put in my pocket. I dont want a phablet anymore. I simply want a working phone that isnt destroyed by all the latest bells and whistles and is very reliable.
 

nouveau_redneck

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Apple phones may have hardware that is behind the times, but the one ace up the sleeve is iOS. Android is a substandard, malware infested, data mining, privacy sucking, POS. There is no comparison between the two if you value your data and privacy.

That said, if Samsung made a phone with iOS, what how fast I'd dump Apple.
 
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saltd

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This thread .....here we go comparing apples to oranges again. It’s possible to see the merits in both, while preferring one above the other.
 
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