But the original contention in this thread was that the delay was purposefully baked in to inspire users to update phones, out of frustration. If users don’t notice the delay (I don’t notice it on my 7+), clearly it will not have the “intended”/devious effect... or has that contention been abandoned?
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Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions
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But the original contention in this thread was that the delay was purposefully baked in to inspire users to update phones, out of frustration. If users don’t notice the delay (I don’t notice it on my 7+), clearly it will not have the “intended”/devious effect... or has that contention been abandoned?
Ok, and for those that use their phone differently than you, it’s an issue. Not questioning whether or not it impacts you, but rather stating it’s a bug that’s been resolved. If you watch the original video I linked, you could see the bug clear as day.
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It’s more bewildering that they change the open / close animation every year and it causes problems every year. You may not notice / care, but it’s not an “experience” based problem. It’s baked into every iPhone on 11.0. People try to make it seem like “I’m having no issues, it doesn’t exist on my phone” when it’s simply not true. Abnormal battery drain is a per device issue. Animation speed, however, is not.
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I don’t agree with the OP’s idea that it’s intentional.
It’s more bewildering that they change the open / close animation every year and it causes problems every year. You may not notice / care, but it’s not an “experience” based problem. It’s baked into every iPhone on 11.0. People try to make it seem like “I’m having no issues, it doesn’t exist on my phone” when it’s simply not true. Abnormal battery drain is a per device issue. Animation speed, however, is not.
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I’ve always used Reduce Motion, so perhaps that’s why I don’t notice it... (I find that zooming animation to be intolerable, at any speed!)
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http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-11-home-button-delay-issue-shown-on-video-with-no-fix-in-sight
It’s already front page news now and people are still asking this question so these predictions aren’t false
http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-11-home-button-delay-issue-shown-on-video-with-no-fix-in-sight
What does that have to do with the incorrect prediction of iPhone 8 not having this issue because "planned obsolescence" would only make older devices have issues? I mean aside from only further demonstrating how incorrect that prediction was.
Where does it say that? Why do people with iPhone 8 experience it as well if the prediction was that with "planned obsolescence" in play it wouldn't be experiencing that? Why were similar home button issues around in early versions of iOS 10, while the later versions of iOS 10 are praised and are now used as essentially examples of perfection?
I believe planned obsolescence is a thing at Apple. After three years your device is much slower than when you purchased it....just in time for an upgrade!
However, to suggest that Apple is “planning obsolescence” on a device released last week, that’s just loco
If that were the case, why release the 8 at all? Why not just continue selling the 7 and release the 10 in November.
However, to suggest that Apple is “planning obsolescence” on a device released last week, that’s just loco
If that were the case, why release the 8 at all? Why not just continue selling the 7 and release the 10 in November.
It’s common sense. Apple wants everyone to see how fast gesture based swiping is compared to a button and programmed the delay into all devices with home buttons.
I don’t recall home button delays being reported as front page news on iOS 10.
Probably at every big IT company out there - and for the record I have always seen lag with the home button just the rest of my interactions on my current phone are much faster and more fluid on ios 11 than the last version of ios 10. I know some people with older phones who have good experiences with this as well. I do think some OS releases are better optimised than others - I recall the mess that was Windows ME after the very good 98 for example.I believe planned obsolescence is a thing at Apple. After three years your device is much slower than when you purchased it....just in time for an upgrade!
However, to suggest that Apple is “planning obsolescence” on a device released last week, that’s just loco
If that were the case, why release the 8 at all? Why not just continue selling the 7 and release the 10 in November.
How long do you expect your iPhone to be lag-free, squeaky clean? In 3 years, you'll be at least 2-3 iOS versions ahead, with lots of added features. You'll have 3 years of apps installed, data, text messages, photos, etc. I would bet, if you restored that phone and started as new, it will still run quite well, even after 3 years of daily usage. Over in Android land, these slowdowns happen in 6-12 months, and often without updating the operating system.I believe planned obsolescence is a thing at Apple. After three years your device is much slower than when you purchased it....just in time for an upgrade!
However, to suggest that Apple is “planning obsolescence” on a device released last week, that’s just loco
If that were the case, why release the 8 at all? Why not just continue selling the 7 and release the 10 in November.
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You participated in those very iOS 10 discussions. How convenient that they are just cast aside and forgotten about now.
Common sense shows nothing about iPhone X has been shown so far and iPhone 8 predictions have been wrong. Common sense also clearly shows a lot of deflections and goalposts being moved. Now that's all common sense.
IOS 10 had other issues and I do remember there being a home button delay in IOS 9 that was fixed.
I reset all settings yesterday on my 7 Plus and it actually improved the smoothness a bit on IOS 11.
I would wait until 11.1 or 11.2 for the final judgment.
Just got a confirmation it’s programmed into the OS.Try exploiting the no animation bug in iOS 11 and use the home button. It’s instant.
Try using home button after you do the steps. It removes all animations and makes the phone super fast. Effect only lasts till you lock the phone which is a downside.
So many variables who knows? Lets see what 11.1 or 11.2 will bring. I bet it will be fixed, IMO there really is no incentive for Apple to slow down the home button on purpose. People will wait for the X anyway.
How does that show some sort of "planned obsolescence"? Seems like the same old invocations of Occam's and Hanlon's razors are in play, especially since we've gone through similar type of things in early iOS 10/9/8/7 days.
The bug gets rid of the delay which indicates it has been done on purpose and this bug breaks it. Just look how super fast the phone runs with this bug. Its so much more sluggish without it.
Whats interesting is if you press the home button before the animation finishes it goes back instantly.
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