Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions

[Phil A.]

There has always been a delay when pressing the home button (to allow for double and triple clicks) - if you are experiencing a particularly long delay then it may be worth checking the home button settings under accessibility

I've just done a comparison between my SE (iOS 11) and my daughters (iOS 10) and there is absolutely no perceivable difference in speed when closing an app.

 

[Feenician]

There has always been a delay when pressing the home button (to allow for double and triple clicks) - if you are experiencing a particularly long delay then it may be worth checking the home button settings under accessibility

I've just done a comparison between my SE (iOS 11) and my daughters (iOS 10) and there is absolutely no perceivable difference in speed when closing an app.

The actual issue is only on the 7 I think. The rest is confabulation by the usual suspects. The “1-2 seconds” and “planned obsolescence” stuff is gross exaggeration and attention seeking imo.

On the 7 though it looks like’s doubled up, miscalculated or something. It is slightly too long on the default setting, comparing it to a Pro 9.7 with a physical button.

 

[Radon87000]

The actual issue is only on the 7 I think. The rest is confabulation by the usual suspects. The “1-2 seconds” and “planned obsolescence” stuff is gross exaggeration and attention seeking imo.

On the 7 though it looks like’s doubled up, miscalculated or something. It is slightly too long on the default setting, comparing it to a Pro 9.7 with a physical button.

No its also there on the iPhone 6. My earlier video showed the 6 on iOS 10 being faster than the 7. On iOS 11 both are even with the 7 being a hair faster

 

[Feenician]

No its also there on the iPhone 6. My earlier video showed the 6 on iOS 10 being faster than the 7. On iOS 11 both are even with the 7 being a hair faster

I’m struggling with your logic here. The iPhone 6, two generations older, closes apps faster than the 7 but “has the issue”. Does your video demonstrate that claim? I’m not in a position to watch it (bad wifi on a train)

 

[d5aqoëp]

I’m struggling with your logic here. The iPhone 6, two generations older, closes apps faster than the 7 but “has the issue”. Does your video demonstrate that claim? I’m not in a position to watch it (bad wifi on a train)

You should comment only after watching his video. It clearly demonstrates this laggy home button problem. Sure 1-2 seconds lag which has been introduced may not be a big deal to every one. But for me and many others, who had got so used to iOS 10’s behaviour, this is clearly a step back. Apple internally doesn’t have input blocking guidelines it seems.

 

[Feenician]

You should comment only after watching his video. It clearly demonstrates this laggy home button problem. Sure 1-2 seconds lag which has been introduced may not be a big deal to every one. But for me and many others, who had got so used to iOS 10’s behaviour, this is clearly a step back. Apple internally doesn’t have input blocking guidelines it seems.

Like I said above, it tracks the Home Button double click setting. If anyone posts a video showing them having that setting a default, pressing the home button and having a 2 second lag I’ll retract my claim.

 

[Radon87000]

Like I said above, it tracks the Home Button double click setting. If anyone posts a video showing them having that setting a default, pressing the home button and having a 2 second lag I’ll retract my claim.

https://streamable.com/6s01k. Just a 20 second clip. Doesn't take much bandwith to watch

Please don't ask me to make a new video to show you click speed setting in video as its a pain in the ass to downgrade. The click speed is default in both

 

[Feenician]

https://streamable.com/6s01k. Just a 20 second clip. Doesn't take much bandwith to watch

Please don't ask me to make a new video to show you click speed setting in video as its a pain in the ass to downgrade. The click speed is default in both

Not asking you to downgrade. Show the click speed setting on a 7 on iOS 11 and anything resembling a 2 second delay. Apparently only you and OP are seeing such a delay. Everyone else is seeing a fraction of a second.

 

[Radon87000]

I’m struggling with your logic here. The iPhone 6, two generations older, closes apps faster than the 7 but “has the issue”. Does your video demonstrate that claim? I’m not in a position to watch it (bad wifi on a train)

The 6 on iOS 10 quits apps faster than the 7 on iOS 11. The 6 on iOS 11 is same speed as iPhone 7 on iOS 11

 

[imagineadam]

I believe it's only on the iphone 7.

Check out this 6S comparison. Looks like they are even as far as reaction time after the button is pressed with the closing animation on 11 being slightly faster than 10.3.3.

The issue is the iPhone 7 button where there is a new delay introduced with iOS 11 closing apps compared to 10.3.3. It was instant now it's behaving like it has a physical button again.

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The 6 on iOS 10 quits apps faster than the 7 on iOS 11. The 6 on iOS 11 is same speed as iPhone 7 on iOS 11

I think you mean the 6 on iOS 10 closes apps faster than the 7 on iOS 11. Right? And your second statement I believe is true.

 

[Feenician]

The 6 on iOS 10 quits apps faster than the 7 on iOS 11. The 6 on iOS 11 is same speed as iPhone 7 on iOS 11

https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201327723-MacRumors-Rules-for-Appropriate-Debate

You made a claim of a 2 second delay. Here and elsewhere. Can you demonstrate it?

Rules:

1. Sources. If you claim that something's a fact, back it up with a source. If you can't produce evidence when someone asks you to cite your sources, we may remove your posts. If you started the thread, then we may remove or close the thread

 

[imagineadam]

I believe it's only on the iphone 7.

Check out this 6S comparison. Looks like they are even as far as reaction time after the button is pressed with the closing animation on 11 being slightly faster than 10.3.3.

The issue is the iPhone 7 button where there is a new delay introduced with iOS 11 closing apps compared to 10.3.3. It was instant now it's behaving like it has a physical button again.

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I think you mean the 6 on iOS 10 closes apps faster than the 7 on iOS 11. Right? And your second statement I believe is true.

Ah typo.

 

[Radon87000]

https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201327723-MacRumors-Rules-for-Appropriate-Debate

You made a claim of a 2 second delay. Here and elsewhere. Can you demonstrate it?

I said its a second or two. Not exactly 2 seconds.I didn't time it with a stopwatch. I will post the video later once I have my other iPhone available for recording. But regardless of the exact duration its slower than the iPhone 6 running iOS 10. This is what I have been saying for pages on end

 

[Feenician]

I said its a second or two. Not exactly 2 seconds. Around 1-1.3 seconds would be more precise. I will post the video later once I have my other iPhone available for recording. But regardless of the exact duration its slower than the iPhone 6 running iOS 10. This is what I have been saying for pages on end

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Color me surprised you backpedaling on the times. Should be easy enough to check the actual delay in your video though.

It’ll be slower than a 5s running iOS 10 because there is a bug. The bug will get fixed. I don’t have old hardware to test with but if you say that hardware with physical buttons has the delay too then I have little choice but to take your word for it. In any case it wouldn’t do anything to actually prove the bizarre claims of planned obsolescence in this thread.

 

[d5aqoëp]

https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201327723-MacRumors-Rules-for-Appropriate-Debate

You made a claim of a 2 second delay. Here and elsewhere. Can you demonstrate it?

Yes it comes to between 1-2 seconds. 1.78 seconds to be precise using iPhone’s stopwatch lol. That’s close enough. With human error margin, it is still above 1 second.

Start counting from the moment you tap on an app, press Home Button till the app close animation completes.

BTW that is not even the point. You are just trying to divert and getting caught into technicalities. The real question is whether this input blocking of home button a deliberate attempt by Apple to show all home button equipped iDevices in poor light compared to iPhone X? Or it is just a bad coincidence due to sloppy programming?

Some people are highly sensitive to lag and their brain picks up tinniest of the changes. BTW I didn’t go around finding this particular lag area. I picked up on it within minutes of installing 3rd or 4th beta. People here have a habit of dismissing someone if they don’t face the same problem.

 

[Radon87000]

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The bug will get fixed. I don’t have old hardware to test with but if you say that hardware with physical buttons has the delay too then I have little choice but to take your word for it.

Yes I can prove that easily. The iPhone 6 in that video has iOS 10 installed and its faster than the iPhone 7 on ios 11. Now my iPhone 6 is on iOS 11 and now its slower than the 7 and I can make a video on this

In any case it wouldn’t do anything to actually prove the bizarre claims of planned obsolescence in this thread.

It will be proven if the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus don't have this delay or if this isn't fixed by next year

 

[Zaft]

Seems like its a 7 Issue, I have this delay on my 7 Plus. Its noticeable compared to 10.3.. It will be fixed by 11.1 or 11.2

Same issue accured when IOS 10 was out and then fixed later.

There is no intentional slowdown.

 

[Feenician]

It will be proven if the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus don't have this delay or if this isn't fixed by next year

On this we can agree. I’m 100% confident it will be fixed though. If this isn’t fixed in the iOS 11 cycle call me on it and I’ll delete my account.

I genuinely don’t understand the mentality of assuming ever bug and every issue is Apple being evil, yet continuing to buy from them. It’s bizarre.

 

[d5aqoëp]

It will be proven if the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus don't have this delay or if this isn't fixed by next year

Yup that’s pretty straightforward.

 

[Zaft]

On this we can agree. I’m 100% confident it will be fixed though. If this isn’t fixed in the iOS 11 cycle call me on it and I’ll delete my account.

I genuinely don’t understand the mentality of assuming ever bug and every issue is Apple being evil, yet continuing to buy from them. It’s bizarre.

I will bet that the 8 will have the same delay if both are on the same software.

The iPhone 7 last year was launched with a stuttery close animation that was fixed later.

 

[d5aqoëp]

On this we can agree. I’m 100% confident it will be fixed though. If this isn’t fixed in the iOS 11 cycle call me on it and I’ll delete my account.

So you are finally agreeing that even you are seeing the lag which everyone is seeing and want it fixed!

I genuinely don’t understand the mentality of assuming ever bug and every issue is Apple being evil, yet continuing to buy from them. It’s bizarre.

BTW we have three 7 Pluses and two 10.5 purely on the basis of Apple admitting about lags and stutters and giving us a gem called iOS 10. I got it when it was already on 10.2

 

[imagineadam]

I will bet that the 8 will have the same delay if both are on the same software.

The iPhone 7 last year was launched with a stuttery close animation that was fixed later.

It's not the fact of a slightly stuttery animation, it's the fact that it doesn't respond instantly anymore like it currently does in 10.3.3. (iPhone 7)

Throughout all of iOS 10 releases for the iPhone 7 (stuttery animation or not) the button has responded instantly until iOS 11.

I hope the iPhone 8 has the delay! Otherwise it's obvious planned obsolescence to the 7.

Once it's fixed I'll probably update like everyone else. Until then I'm staying with 10.3.3 to keep the fluidity and speed. Even if iOS 11 is a titch slower overall I might consider updating but the home button delay would drive me mad.

 

[Zaft]

It's not the fact of a slightly stuttery animation, it's the fact that it doesn't respond instantly anymore like it currently does in 10.3.3. (iPhone 7)

Throughout all of iOS 10 releases for the iPhone 7 (stuttery animation or not) the button has responded instantly until iOS 11.

I hope the iPhone 8 has the delay! Otherwise it's obvious planned obsolescence to the 7.

The 7 did have a delay at launch. I remember comparing to my old 6S.

 

[Feenician]

I hope the iPhone 8 has the delay! Otherwise it's obvious planned obsolescence to the 7.

Very likely, but not necessarily. We don’t know if they’ve changed the Home/Touch ID hardware. A strong indicator perhaps but the only true measure is if it gets fixed on the 7.

 

[d5aqoëp]

I hope the iPhone 8 has the delay! Otherwise it's obvious planned obsolescence to the 7.

Even if iPhone 8 has the delay, you cannot rule out the fact that they might want to show all the Home button devices slower than gesture controlled iPhone X.

Admit it that it is the future. iPhone 8 may be the last home button equipped phone. Either we get TouchID under the screen or have to make do with FaceID. From now onwards, just swip swipe swipe. Better practise Fruit Ninja to get used to it.