Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions

[d5aqoëp]

Let's see how it performs on the new iPhones. I'll say this, the iOS 10 animations do look much smoother in this case. iOS 11 still feels jerky when you close an app quickly.

It will be butter smooth on iPhone 8 an 8+.

Btw you are right. iOS 10 animations were so smooth that they were taken for granted. As someone pointed out, Apple needs to re-write the animation framework or whatever that controls UI animations. One year they fix one animation, next year they break it and fix another one.

 

[I7guy]

The thread would be much more believable if the "planned obsolescence" meme wasn't over-used and over-abused. If apple really we purposefully slowing down their phones, as opposed to some glitch in the software relating to hardware, they know how to do so that no one will detect it, as opposed to making it so obvious.

 

[dannyyankou]

If there is planned obsolescence then how can my iPhone 7+ close out apps during the animation then? iOS 11 GM.

If you literally press the home button the split second after you open an app, it closes instantly. I have a 7+ too. But if you wait like a quarter of a second before hitting it, there’s lag.

In the real world, half a second passes before people realize they opened the wrong app by mistake. There will be lag in these situations, and people will notice.

 

[Radon87000]

The thread would be much more believable if the "planned obsolescence" meme wasn't over-used and over-abused. If apple really we purposefully slowing down their phones, as opposed to some glitch in the software relating to hardware, they know how to do so that no one will detect it, as opposed to making it so obvious.

The purpose of planned obsolescence is to make it obvious otherwise the user won’t upgrade.

 

[Nisaja]

I actually just tried this and was just about to post about it.

Yes, I can close apps out during the animation as well, but when the app is fully launched, it still takes about half a second for the UI to respond to the home button click.

Very strange, which leads me to believe that these are two different sets of animations and there is a bug that affects the latter and not the former.

One thing is certain, this definitely demonstrates that the home button click should always give an instantaneous response on the screen, and that it is possible for Apple to fix it.

The latter is the main issue here. Not the former. The app should close immediately when you press the home button. That half a second lag considerably slows things down.

 

[BeeGood]

The latter is the main issue here. Not the former. The app should close immediately when you press the home button. That half a second lag considerably slows things down.

Correct, that is what I’m saying in my post.

The fact that apps can be immediately closed during the launch animation doesn’t demonstrate that there is no delay in closing apps that are fully launched. It actually proves that all home-button-driven animations should be instantaneous and it’s something Apple can fix.

In other words, it’s a bug. I don’t think it’s intentional.

 

[d5aqoëp]

In other words, it’s a bug. I don’t think it’s intentional.

My main intention is to bring this to Apple’s attention through a great public forum like MacRumors. I know Apple employees read it. If they don’t fix it, then it is not a bug but intentional. Proves planned obsolescence. If they fix it, we all get to enjoy super snappy iOS. I win either way.

 

[Radon87000]

It would be useful if someone with an iPhone 8 chimes in. If that doesn’t have the lag and the 7’s lag isn’t fixed by next year we have a confirmation.

 

[fisherking]

My main intention is to bring this to Apple’s attention through a great public forum like MacRumors. I know Apple employees read it. If they don’t fix it, then it is not a bug but intentional. Proves planned obsolescence. If they fix it, we all get to enjoy super snappy iOS. I win either way.

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[BeeGood]

My main intention is to bring this to Apple’s attention through a great public forum like MacRumors. I know Apple employees read it. If they don’t fix it, then it is not a bug but intentional. Proves planned obsolescence. If they fix it, we all get to enjoy super snappy iOS. I win either way.

I don’t know if Apple employees read this forum or not, but I do know that numerous people who tested the public betas logged this issue. I think that’s the best way to get issues in front of the people who can fix them.

I suspect it will get fixed eventually, but even if it doesn’t, I don’t think that necessarily proves that it was intentional. They could decide that even though it is in fact a bug, it’s not critical enough to devote resources to fixing it.

 

[Radon87000]

I don’t know if Apple employees read this forum or not, but I do know that numerous people who tested the public betas logged this issue. I think that’s the best way to get issues in front of the people who can fix them.

I suspect it will get fixed eventually, but even if it doesn’t, I don’t think that necessarily proves that it was intentional. They could decide that even though it is in fact a bug, it’s not critical enough to devote resources to fixing it.

Yes Apple employees read the forum. Traffic has shown unreleased iOS versions visiting the website.

 

[BeeGood]

Yes Apple employees read the forum. Traffic has shown unreleased iOS versions visiting the website.

Right, but does that mean that they’re actually here reading posts and collecting feedback?

They could just be hitting the website and moving on. Or it could be QA people at Foxconn.

 

[d5aqoëp]

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Thank you very much

 

[I7guy]

My main intention is to bring this to Apple’s attention through a great public forum like MacRumors. I know Apple employees read it. If they don’t fix it, then it is not a bug but intentional. Proves planned obsolescence. If they fix it, we all get to enjoy super snappy iOS. I win either way.

There are different sneakier ways to obsolete devices than this. You think appke went to great lengths to obsolete a device via the home button when it can randomly introduce lag in every facet of operation of the phone?
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Right, but does that mean that they’re actually here reading posts and collecting feedback?

They could just be hitting the website and moving on. Or it could be QA people at Foxconn.

All major companies have social media departments and monitor the web. Doesn’t mean they take requests or fix problems based on Mac rumors posts based on the timetable of the poster.

 

[Radon87000]

There are different sneakier ways to obsolete devices than this. You think appke went to great lengths to obsolete a device via the home button when it can randomly introduce lag in every facet of operation of the phone?

There are random stutters throughout the OS.Sometimes they are there,sometimes they aren't. For example,open the share menu in a website in Safari and press the home button and then once again tap safari to get back in the app. Huge sub 20fps class stutters.I got more stutters on iOS 11 in a month than I did in a year of using iOS 10 on my phone.

They also removed the 3DT app switcher gesture, and the taptic feedback of CC and NC on iPhone 7. I am ready to bet all 3 of them will be there on iPhone X. You may like to make fun of the concept but these are the facts right in fornt of you.
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All major companies have social media departments and monitor the web. Doesn’t mean they take requests or fix problems based on Mac rumors posts based on the timetable of the poster.

Why visit Macrumors if not to see what users post?

 

[I7guy]

There are random stutters throughout the OS.Sometimes they are there,sometimes they aren't. For example,open the share menu in a website in Safari and press the home button and then once again tap safari to get back in the app. Huge sub 20fps class stutters.I got more stutters on iOS 11 in a month than I did in a year of using iOS 10 on my phone.

I noticed the stutters in the same place they been since ios9, like in the cellular menu. Otherwise pretty much great. Share sheet, works like a champ. However I’m sure iOS 11 will be perfect for you in June.

They also removed the 3DT app switcher gesture, and the taptic feedback of CC and NC on iPhone 7. I am ready to bet all 3 of them will be there on iPhone X. You may like to make fun of the concept but these are the facts right in fornt of you.
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Why visit Macrumors if not to see what users post?

Not sure what you are trying to imply about the app switcher guesture. I liked it, but there are other means to accomplish the same end.

I’m sure Apple knows what’s posted where, doesn’t mean these all of these posts go on the requirements list.

 

[brilliantthings]

Planned Obsolesence exists. Hence proved.

If you consider the phone in your video to be obsolete, I think the obsolescence is more due to your inability to tolerate a negligibly slower animation.

 

[Nisaja]

I still think it was done purposely, just like how the iPhone 7 was sped up purposely to make it look noticeably faster. Even though there are subtler ways to make the phone slower, slowing down the home button's reaction time would make it NOTICEABLY slower when kept side by side with an iPhone 8 or an iPhone X. I'm waiting to see how the 8 performs.

We will see...

 

[johannnn]

What if you enable “reduce motion” in accessibility? iOS 11 is blazing fast for me, even using the home button.

 

[Radon87000]

What if you enable “reduce motion” in accessibility? iOS 11 is blazing fast for me, even using the home button.

I refuse to lower settings on a high end phone like the 7 Plus. This shouldn’t even be an option.

 

[SumYoungGai]

Is it slower? yes, but I haven't really been too bothered by it. there are bigger things to worry about besides an extra 0.5s lag when you press the home button.

Also I kind of prefer it not going home immediately when you press it because in 10.x it would start to go home and then immediately switch to multitasking mid animation every time you double click the home button, which looks janky and unpolished. The delay allows the OS to see if you're actually going home or into multitasking.

 

[johannnn]

I refuse to lower settings on a high end phone like the 7 Plus. This shouldn’t even be an option.

The animation in iOS 10 is dog slow compared to “Reduce motion”. I find it hilarious that people whine about the animation now being 10% more slow, when it already was very slow. Activate “reduce motion” and you don’t get any of that.

 

[Nisaja]

Reduce motion doesn't make the phone any faster. It just gets rid of the animations. The phone stays unresponsive during time the animation is supposed to take place.

Test it. Tap on an app and click anything inside it. As soon as the animation is done, it'll register the click. With reduce motion turned on, the phone will open the app faster, but it'll be unresponsive for about a second (how long it takes the animation to end) and THEN register a click.

Best example, open messages and immediately start tapping to open a conversation. Notice it'll register the click as soon as the animation ends. Try it again with reduce motion on. The app loads, but your tapping will register after a second.

 

[imagineadam]

What if you enable “reduce motion” in accessibility? iOS 11 is blazing fast for me, even using the home button.

I'm a reduce motion user also but radon says the time delay is still there.

Is it slower? yes, but I haven't really been too bothered by it. there are bigger things to worry about besides an extra 0.5s lag when you press the home button.

Also I kind of prefer it not going home immediately when you press it because in 10.x it would start to go home and then immediately switch to multitasking mid animation every time you double click the home button, which looks janky and unpolished. The delay allows the OS to see if you're actually going home or into multitasking.

I use reduce motion so I never see the janky animation which isn't a big deal anyways! But I think the .5 seconds is a big deal because I don't like having to wait for my phone. With the 7 on iOS 10 I finally felt the the phone can keep up with me. On 11 it's a step backwards with the feel for sure. Can't wait for someone who is gets the 8 to tell us if the timing on the home button is the same.

 

[one more]

I am having the lag on iPad 10.5 and iPhone 7 Plus.

Try doing a fresh restore after the real iOS 11 is out on Tuesday. It works fine for me on iPad Air 2 and iPhone SE, so should be flying on your iPad Pro & iPhone 7.