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Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions

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d5aqoëp said:
Even if iPhone 8 has the delay, you cannot rule out the fact that they might want to show all the Home button devices slower than gesture controlled iPhone X.
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You can if it is present on the 8 but gets fixed.

This thread’s logic: “Apple are slowing down a core function on every previous generation and even a newly released phone to pump demand for a phone they could not possibly keep up with supply with even if it only came in Zune s**t brown and actually smelled like it”. It’s bizarre.
 
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Feenician said:
You can if it is present on the 8 but gets fixed.

This thread’s logic: “Apple are slowing down a core function on every previous generation and even a newly released phone to pump demand for a phone they could not possibly keep up with supply with even if it only came in Zune s**t brown and actually smelled like it”. It’s bizarre.
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Dude. Let’s argue tomorrow. I have finished today’s quota.
 
What you talkin bout willis? What I do know is Apple purposely slows down opening and closing apps so you have time to see the animations. Someone once told me they have the animations to give apps time to load. After jailbreaking my phones though I can see that the apps don't really need time to load they can open almost instantly and this is best seen by using NoSlowAnimations. Thats my 2 cents.
 
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I'm hoping this will be resolved in a .1 update, I'm back on 10.3.3 for now. People need to stop calling it "lag" though, because it's not.

It's a change in how the home button works. It a) doesn't close apps as instantaneously when the home button is pressed and b) you can no longer cancel an app opening mid animation by pressing home, you need to wait for it to open all the way.

The UI and animations are fine, zero lag, they're nice and fluid but the home button change makes the phone feel every so slightly slower to use due to that extra little wait to get something done.
 
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Radon87000 said:
It does happen. The iPhone 6 is faster than the 7
https://streamable.com/6s01k

I currently have the 6 on iOS 11 and its behaving the same as the 7 Plus. I can post a video if you want



Just checked with my iPad. The delay is there even with reduce motion
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I didn't say it doesn't happen. I'm calling bulls*** on the contention in the thread title. First, it's just plain idiotic. Second, it's not happening for everyone, which just reinforces how idiotic the premise of this thread is.

You and perhaps some others are seeing some lag. Others are not. Either way, Apple did not PURPOSELY introduce lag.
 
TitanTiger said:
I didn't say it doesn't happen. I'm calling bulls*** on the contention in the thread title. First, it's just plain idiotic. Second, it's not happening for everyone, which just reinforces how idiotic the premise of this thread is.

You and perhaps some others are seeing some lag. Others are not. Either way, Apple did not PURPOSELY introduce lag.
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They didn't introduce lag but the home button behaviour has changed for everyone, because Apple has changed the timing on the home button.

It's not "lag" as some call it, but the iPhone 7 on iOS 10.3.3 is "faster" due to the instantaneous reaction to the home button being pressed and an app closing as well as the fact you can press the home button mid-opening animation to close the app.

It might not seem like a lot but we all accidentally at some time or another tap the wrong icon or something comes to mind and we decide to use a different app. On iOS 11 you can no longer do this without waiting for the app to open all the way and then close it, which when combined with the delay between pressing home and the app closing, is a slower experience.

In terms of UI transitions everything is fine for a .0 build, the only actual lag I see is on the final part of the 3D Touch menu opening, regardless of the app, but again that'll come with optimisation.
 
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It’s not a problem with the home button. It’s a problem with the animations that are very very slow compare to iOS 10.3.3.

I decided to disable animations on the GM and it feels so much better.
 
I just read through the entire thread and yep, there is a lag when closing apps. It's only on the iPhone 7 and 7 plus. NOT on any other phone.

I repeat. It's ONLY on the 7 and 7 Plus.

Anyone who can't notice it (on a 7), simply aren't paying enough attention, or are really stupid. Period.

What happened is, on iOS 10, the iPhone 7 would close apps at the exact moment you press the home button. Never did that on previous iPhones. There was always a half a second delay when closing apps. Maybe the 7 was sped up intentionally to make us ditch our 6s' and upgrade. But now with iOS 11, it's back to being a 6s. Meaning it takes half a second to register the "click" and then close the app. That is the problem here. That extra 0.2 of a second.

Shown throughout this video. And this is iOS 11 GM. Not gonna get any better than this.



I've also noticed that with older iPhones, closing apps is actually a little faster on iOS 11. Not always, but sometimes.

Shown here with an iPhone 5s

So there you have it. PROOF that it purposely slows down the 7 and 7 Plus when closing apps.
 
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Nisaja said:
I just read through the entire thread and yep, there is a lag when closing apps. It's only on the iPhone 7 and 7 plus. NOT on any other phone.

I repeat. It's ONLY on the 7 and 7 Plus.

Anyone who can't notice it (on a 7), simply aren't paying enough attention, or are really stupid. Period.

What happened is, on iOS 10, the iPhone 7 would close apps at the exact moment you press the home button. Never did that on previous iPhones. There was always a half a second delay when closing apps. Maybe the 7 was sped up intentionally to make us ditch our 6s' and upgrade. But now with iOS 11, it's back to being a 6s. Meaning it takes half a second to register the "click" and then close the app. That is the problem here. That extra 0.2 of a second.

Shown throughout this video. And this is iOS 11 GM. Not gonna get any better than this.



I've also noticed that with older iPhones, closing apps is actually a little faster on iOS 11. Not always, but sometimes.

Shown here with an iPhone 5s

So there you have it. PROOF that it purposely slows down the 7 and 7 Plus when closing apps.
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"Proof...Purposely"

People keep using these words but they don't mean what they think they mean.
 
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I do and I've posted it several times. It's a bug. It will be fixed. Will you be back to admit your conspiracy theory is garbage then?
 
Feenician said:
I do and I've posted it several times. It's a bug. It will be fixed. Will you be back to admit your conspiracy theory is garbage then?
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A pretty obvious "bug" that couldn't be fixed with 10 betas? I think not.

If they fix it now, it's only because they realized that they got busted. Lol.

I noticed the increase in speed when closing apps when the iPhone 7 came out. It was lot faster than the 6s. I thought it was intentionally sped up to make people upgrade. Fine by me, but slowing it down when the next phone comes out? That's pushing it.
 
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Feenician said:
I do and I've posted it several times. It's a bug. It will be fixed. Will you be back to admit your conspiracy theory is garbage then?
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At least I would eat crow and admit that it was a wrong theory if they fix it in 11.1/11.2 etc. No problem in temporary reduction in e-penis. It grows back.

But you sir are going to delete/stop posting from your account if Apple keeps Home button behavior same till 1st beta of iOS 12. As per your oath a little back in this thread. :)

Eat Crow is a figure of speech. Don’t expect me to eat a real crow lmao
 
Strelok said:
I'm still cancelling mid way through for most, it's only if you press super late that it will load up first.

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On iOS 10 it cancels instantly the moment you press home button just at the beginning of the animation while on iOS 11 it doesn’t.
 
Radon87000 said:
On iOS 10 it cancels instantly the moment you press home button just at the beginning of the animation while on iOS 11 it doesn’t.
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To me it seems like iOS 11 is bringing up the fully loaded app quicker, hence it not seeming instant when you press the home button. Honestly I'm not sure this is even significant since the app generally loads faster than you can actually press the button. I hope OP reported it instead of just complaining about it on here though if it really bothers them.

Here is what I think is happening in iOS 10 and 11.

10: Animation turns on when you press the button and the app starts loading after it gets into app (i.e. after animation is over)

11: App starts loading during animation and when you you get in the app it''s already loaded.
 
If you can’t handle this slowish bug, I advise you to disable the animations. Your iPhone 7 will run mutch smoother
 
Strelok said:
To me it seems like iOS 11 is bringing up the fully loaded app quicker, hence it not seeming instant when you press the home button.
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But even that is an intentional slowdown because bringing up fully loaded app quicker is not achieving any purpose. It is slowing things down instead.

Nisaja said:
A pretty obvious "bug" that couldn't be fixed with 10 betas? I think not.

If they fix it now, it's only because they realized that they got busted. Lol.
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Lmao true.
 
d5aqoëp said:
But even that is an intentional slowdown because bringing up fully loaded app quicker is not achieving any purpose. It is slowing things down instead.
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What is the purpose of a 0.5 second quicker return to homescreen/folder? How often do you need this a day? I ask because I rarely ever need that, while I open and use apps much more often. To me it just seems like a whole lot of drama over something insignificant.

Also it doesn't happen on all apps. Check my video, especially Maps. It basically closes instantly.
 
Strelok said:
What is the purpose of a 0.5 second quicker return to homescreen/folder? How often do you need this a day? I ask because I rarely ever need that, while I open and use apps much more often. To me it just seems like a whole lot of drama over something insignificant.
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I do this opening closing apps drama many times a day. So many times I open neighboring app and close it quickly.
If Apple does not change the home button behavior, I might get used to it like pre iOS 10 level. As if we have an option to make it faster.
 
iSayBoourns said:
If there is planned obsolescence then how can my iPhone 7+ close out apps during the animation then? iOS 11 GM.

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I actually just tried this and was just about to post about it.

Yes, I can close apps out during the animation as well, but when the app is fully launched, it still takes about half a second for the UI to respond to the home button click.

Very strange, which leads me to believe that these are two different sets of animations and there is a bug that affects the latter and not the former.

One thing is certain, this definitely demonstrates that the home button click should always give an instantaneous response on the screen, and that it is possible for Apple to fix it.
 
d5aqoëp said:
I do this opening closing apps drama many times a day. So many times I open neighboring app and close it quickly.
If Apple does not change the home button behavior, I would somewhat get used to it like pre iOS 10 level.
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Let's see how it performs on the new iPhones. I'll say this, the iOS 10 animations do look much smoother in this case. iOS 11 still feels jerky when you close an app quickly.
 
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