Totally ......
I've said it so many times on here.
The grass is not always greener in another field (unless its a Super AMOLED field) - it's often just slightly different grass, but ultimately very similar tasting grass.
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Totally ......
I've said it so many times on here.
The grass is not always greener in another field (unless its a Super AMOLED field) - it's often just slightly different grass, but ultimately very similar tasting grass.
Given stock ICS/JB/KitKat run more smoothly than stock Gingerbread nevermind Gingerbread with TouchWiz, I reckon that should be quite an improvement.
Well, efficient is subjective. I have no problem with Siri efficiency.
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That depends on the app. There are many apps aren't even dependent on a data connection.
I read all that before. It still doesnt negate the fact how much google copied from apple (down to the rubber band effect) and how much apple accelerated the smartphone industry. Google isnt really a distruptive company. They just want to get in everybodys ass. Do you remember the first android? How was it compared to ios at the time?
Full file menagement - why would anybody want that? I prefer terminal commands...
http://tasker.dinglisch.net this? The usual android bs. Bunch of customisation options theres really no need for or im missing smth?
Alternate browsers? Why?
Widgets? Really? Using widgets for eg. calendar is like using phablets for movies. Partial info and functionality at a glance, cool. It really is a differentiating characteristic... I dont know about you but im always a tap away from the full app.
Blah blah blah customisation... You people really have too much time on your hands. Do you know why people like apple? Because they dont have time/dont want to spend time setting up their device. So basically apples biggest strenght is actually a weakness to some. To each his own, i guess
Its beyond me how can somebody actually compare products built with hardware/software parts designed by different manufacturers with products basically completely designed in-house. Vertical integration just cant be replaced. Its windows vs mac all over again. And here you are, talking about openess... Do you understand this is the biggest and arguably the only android flaw? Its shows, and its only gonna show more and more. Wanna know how?
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I agree that Google did copy many things from Apple when it started out with it's first and second iteration of Android. (Many of those things Apple popularized with the iPhone and consumers wanted those features. It makes sense to duplicate popular features, right?) And that is why Apple has copied a ton of features from Android going back to iOS5, because the features are popular and consumers want them. (Think Notification Center, swype keyboard, etc).
But, you will need to educate yourself a little bit before making claims like Google isn't a disruptive company. Google is doing so many projects right now that could lead to various medical products (glucose detecting contact lenses), transportation initiatives (driverless cars), internet for everyone on the planet (project loon and mini satellites), education (cheap chromebooks that anyone can buy), technology advances (Google Glass) and so on. Google is the epitomy of disruption.
So I guess you know HTML, Linux, Unix and DOS commands by heart then, since you think file management is useless?
Yep. Options, choice and individuality is for losers! Something we learned from the Soviet Union. Welcome comrade.
Makes you wonder why Apple has been including widgets since iOS5 and have expanded on them in iOS8?
So I'm guessing you believe Samsung is the best then, because unlike Apple, it actually builds all of the parts from scratch and continues on end to end with both software and hardware? Also, you do know that Apple doesn't develop or build a good majority of the parts in the iPhone/iPad?
All that said, it is great to love Apple devices. It's fine if that is what you prefer, but don't let blind hate for anything not of the fruit company lead you to believe a lot of what you read on the interwebs. Your whole 'rubber band effect' statement is a prime example. That patent was invalidated because it was a loose copy of an AOL patent called Lira that was around before Apple had an iPhone. So, did Android make a copy of something Apple copied? Is Apple better because they copied first?
Could lead... Tell me about smth they in fact did, except forced oems into the race to the bottom
They are like rich teenage geeks. Actually they probably are.
That was sarcasm. The point was we should be getting rid of the filesystem. An app should do it for you. Like itunes or iphoto. And then it crosses my mind we're actually talking about phones. Put in the registry too while you're at it
Maybe i should then code my own os to express my choices and individuality instead of paying experts to do it for me? Specialisation, remember? Hello to you too comrade
Some people like using their phones, not setting them up
It really does. They are useless and are non-existent in my nc. Peer pressure if you ask me, but why the hell not
Not really. Read once again and youll notice the word designed. Samsung also builds and designes the exynos cpu which set the absolute benchmark when it comes to performance and power consumption...
By software you mean the standalone os touchwiz or tizen?
And by those parts, which arent made per apple design except maybe radios and ram?
It was invalidated?
I guess thats why they came out (google) with the current solution that is very nice and extremely intuitive...
Jeez...
And its not about hate, its about the actual ux and my involvement in maintaining a device instead of using it.
Why the hell in the world is samsung pushing tizen?
I really have to laugh at articles like these!Reading my local news website last week, I stumbled upon this gem of an article and practically laughed as I read the list of why iPhone owners need to wake up and switch to a Samsung/android phone.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/apple-iphone-users-need-to-wake-up-demand-more-and-smell-the-google-android-innovation/story-fnda1lbo-1226991452561
Would love to hear what other people think of this.
Android users sure seem to want to convert people away from the iPhone and its very funny to read.
I particularly like the bits about responsiveness and RAM. I left Android for the iPhone at the end of 2012 because of lag and app crashes being all too frequent. The iPhone offered reliability, a smaller screen, and a simple interface. I was sold and maybe the article should realise that not every consumer's needs are exactly the same. Android does not suit everybody and I am not suggesting it is bad, but I have no desire to go back at present.
This article sounds like one fanboy's opinion written in total ignorance to put it bluntly.
You know you dont have to customise your android if you dont want to. You can do exatcly the same you do with iOS, just add your details and it is a full operating device - and you have all your time trolling around forums. But you knew that, didnt you, just wanted to blahblahblah, right?
What do you like about IOS that isn't possible on Android? And what do you like about Android? Genuine question here.
You have never had or used a flagship Android phone/device, reading your post above makes it so obvious, you are so wrong in so many ways. Period. I won't be answering any of your replies.
You know every time i see a GS4 or a Note I always want to ditch my iphone.
Why? I thought about the customizing and so forth. Then I asked my self, "if that GS4 or Note had a 4 inch screen would i want it?"
The answer is a big no. So basically the screen size is the only factor that I like and will come in September.
Why? I thought about the customizing and so forth. Then I asked my self, "if that GS4 or Note had a 4 inch screen would i want it?"
The answer is a big no. So basically the screen size is the only factor that I like and will come in September.
In the post above, i couldnt be wrong about much, its a matter of personal preference. Some people like to use dos commands, some like file systems and i want my technology to work for me, not the other way around. In other words, i never want to see a file extension again in my life.
But yeah, alternate default browsers would change my life........
Like what for example? What do you need to do more with android than ios when you take it out from the package?
TBH, I think that is a very fair answer. I honestly believe that both systems are about par, both are very good.
Taking into account that Android never had rubber band effect show how much you know about Android, nothing.
You're clearly laughing at us
Some things I've noticed that I prefer on iOS versus Android:
-Restores: I think this might be what the poster above was getting at. With a new iPhone or iOS device, I simply remove from the box and restore from backup. Doesn't take long depending on your internet speed and you can pick up right where you left off with all the same apps and organization. Android doesn't offer anything near this natively. Sure, your data is backed up - but when setting up a new device one must reorganize the device, add all accounts you were previously signed into and install various apps that may or may not automatically install.
-Email: Man am I fed up with Android email. I have problems setting up my iCloud emails on a regular basis, no conversation/thread view and the reply window is messy and cluttered. As with anything, there are alternatives to use...and I've tried plenty. None is as good as iOS mail in my opinion.
-Messaging: Hangouts is, so far, a good attempt at merging the various messaging apps Android once had, but its far from perfect or on iMessage's level. I still regularly have problems with MMS, I'll send an MMS so I can send to a group at the same time, but then I'll get responses back in multiple different threads (I'm assuming because they aren't using Hangouts). Again, I get there are alternatives - but here that would require getting those I communicate with to sign up for various messaging accounts. iMessage just works - either via free wifi messaging if the user is on an iPhone, or via SMS/MMS if not. Its all seamless - all the same thread. And iOS 8 is further enhancing an app this is already ahead of Android.
-Notifications: I usually get killed on this one because the iPhone doesn't have a notification light. But iPhone notifications and the notification center are much better than Android IMO. I get lock screen notifications and have control over what I see so I can quickly glance at my lock screen to see what's come in. The notification center provides additional at-a-glance information that is out of the way but there with a simple swipe down when I need it (even from the lock screen). Banner notifications are far more informative than small icons and while somewhat more intrusive, they don't bother me much. I do think they could cut down on the amount of black space around the notification.
-Consistency of Design: I know most probably don't care, but I hate that Android app icons are all different sizes. It looks cluttered and some are low res (still...in 2014). Apple's design language is consistent throughout the OS whether you're in an app or in the settings menu. Developers seem to be much quicker to adopt new changes in design language on the Apple side, though I'm hopeful Google will start to push with Android L.
-Apps: I know, I know. This isn't anywhere NEAR as big a gap as it used to be. There are tons of great Android apps and nearly every single major app is the same quality on Android as it is on Apple. That being said, there is still more work to do here. Apple apps are, on the whole, more up-to-date, more sophisticated and in the tablet arena far more useful.
-Siri: Google Now just got some updates, so this thinking may be a little out of date. I use Siri all the time for reminders and task setting, various info and in iOS 8 she'll figure out what song I'm listening to. Siri has been more robust than Google now as far a personal assistant, though GN has closed the gap. I still like the results Siri shows directly in her interface versus showing me Google results (which she'll do if she has to). But GN also has its advantages like reading my emails and alerting me of packages and plane tickets and such. All-in-all I still prefer Siri, but GN is a good option in its own right.
-Passbook: Others may not use this, but I do a ton. I travel alot and drink a lot of Starbucks so having my boarding passes, hotel/airlines loyalty cards and Starbucks card readily available on my lock screen exactly when I need it is great. I'm looking forward to more integration and am still perplexed certain companies haven't jumped on this from a loyalty card standpoint *cough* Best Buy *cough*.
That's all for now. I will say I've grown more and more fond of the larger display since returning to a Nexus 5 and really can't wait for Apple to get with the program there in offering options. I'm also psyched about the ability to choose a 3rd party keyboard (namely Swype) and improved sharing across various apps. These are things that I prefer about Android, but iOS 8 seems to be hitting all my boxes as far as wants go. The Android L preview has shown me some good things, but I think its just not far enough along for me to pass judgement. I'm hoping there's more they will add and look forward to diving into it when its released.
Hope this was educational for everyone.
-Restores: I think this might be what the poster above was getting at. With a new iPhone or iOS device, I simply remove from the box and restore from backup. Doesn't take long depending on your internet speed and you can pick up right where you left off with all the same apps and organization. Android doesn't offer anything near this natively. Sure, your data is backed up - but when setting up a new device one must reorganize the device, add all accounts you were previously signed into and install various apps that may or may not automatically install.
-Email: Man am I fed up with Android email. I have problems setting up my iCloud emails on a regular basis, no conversation/thread view and the reply window is messy and cluttered. As with anything, there are alternatives to use...and I've tried plenty. None is as good as iOS mail in my opinion.
-Messaging: Hangouts is, so far, a good attempt at merging the various messaging apps Android once had, but its far from perfect or on iMessage's level. I still regularly have problems with MMS, I'll send an MMS so I can send to a group at the same time, but then I'll get responses back in multiple different threads (I'm assuming because they aren't using Hangouts). Again, I get there are alternatives - but here that would require getting those I communicate with to sign up for various messaging accounts. iMessage just works - either via free wifi messaging if the user is on an iPhone, or via SMS/MMS if not. Its all seamless - all the same thread. And iOS 8 is further enhancing an app this is already ahead of Android.
-Notifications: I usually get killed on this one because the iPhone doesn't have a notification light. But iPhone notifications and the notification center are much better than Android IMO. I get lock screen notifications and have control over what I see so I can quickly glance at my lock screen to see what's come in. The notification center provides additional at-a-glance information that is out of the way but there with a simple swipe down when I need it (even from the lock screen). Banner notifications are far more informative than small icons and while somewhat more intrusive, they don't bother me much. I do think they could cut down on the amount of black space around the notification.
-Consistency of Design: I know most probably don't care, but I hate that Android app icons are all different sizes. It looks cluttered and some are low res (still...in 2014). Apple's design language is consistent throughout the OS whether you're in an app or in the settings menu. Developers seem to be much quicker to adopt new changes in design language on the Apple side, though I'm hopeful Google will start to push with Android L.
-Apps: I know, I know. This isn't anywhere NEAR as big a gap as it used to be. There are tons of great Android apps and nearly every single major app is the same quality on Android as it is on Apple. That being said, there is still more work to do here. Apple apps are, on the whole, more up-to-date, more sophisticated and in the tablet arena far more useful.
-Siri: Google Now just got some updates, so this thinking may be a little out of date. I use Siri all the time for reminders and task setting, various info and in iOS 8 she'll figure out what song I'm listening to. Siri has been more robust than Google now as far a personal assistant, though GN has closed the gap. I still like the results Siri shows directly in her interface versus showing me Google results (which she'll do if she has to). But GN also has its advantages like reading my emails and alerting me of packages and plane tickets and such. All-in-all I still prefer Siri, but GN is a good option in its own right.
-Passbook: Others may not use this, but I do a ton. I travel alot and drink a lot of Starbucks so having my boarding passes, hotel/airlines loyalty cards and Starbucks card readily available on my lock screen exactly when I need it is great. I'm looking forward to more integration and am still perplexed certain companies haven't jumped on this from a loyalty card standpoint *cough* Best Buy *cough*.
That's all for now. I will say I've grown more and more fond of the larger display since returning to a Nexus 5 and really can't wait for Apple to get with the program there in offering options. I'm also psyched about the ability to choose a 3rd party keyboard (namely Swype) and improved sharing across various apps. These are things that I prefer about Android, but iOS 8 seems to be hitting all my boxes as far as wants go. The Android L preview has shown me some good things, but I think its just not far enough along for me to pass judgement. I'm hoping there's more they will add and look forward to diving into it when its released.
Hope this was educational for everyone.
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This is the biggest discrepancy on Android vs. iOS. Everything else can boil down to preference, but there is no way to get around this. I have read that Google plans to add a cloud based restore feature, similar to iOS, in the 'L' release. The code is mostly there for this feature already, Google just needs to add a snapshot image of settings and where apps are located and on which page or dock. This would be limited to stock phones using the stock Google launcher though.
Still, this is a feature Android needs. Hell, even Windows Phones have a restore from a previous backup feature.
Both sides need to step it up!! I have a Nokia 5100 and it IS the best! Battery life? I cant even remember the last time I charged it, maybe 5 days ago? And when I do run out I swap out the battery, on the fly! Lag? I dont even know what that is... I scroll threw my contacts without missing a beat. Bad network reception, not a problem! My phone has an antenna that pops up, can you believe it? Need a number? BAM 3 numbers 4 1 1 and instantly I have a voice that assists me with phone numbers AND addresses. Want to know what your friends are up to? Speed dial 3 baby. Dropped your phone and cracked it? Good thing that kiosk in the mall has what I need, plastic, metal, Flashing Lights $10.99!!!
Siri...Kit-Kat...GOOGLE? You just made those words up!
Siri...Kit-Kat...GOOGLE? You just made those words up!
Heck to the yes. Chalk up another victory for stock Android over skinned. Can't wait for the final L release!
And while most is purely subjective, I do think apps like Messages in iOS are far more robust than Hangouts and could therefore be seen as objectively better as well. I think any doubt of this fact gets blown away come iOS 8.
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This is the best.....seriously.