Apple iPhone owners need to wake up...

[mrex]

That doesn't make sense. Widgets are memory and battery hogs.

Do you know which drains the battery most? Yes, the screen.

If you have widgets on your screen you can check things quickly as you do when using widgets. When you dont have widgets, you need to open the app at first, then check things. Then you open a second app and so on..Hence you use more screen time and that literally means you use more battery. When widgets use tiny amount of the battery, it is meaningless compaired to a draining caused by a screen.

SO... Widgets actually save your battery... and your time.

 

[C DM]

That doesn't make sense. Widgets are memory and battery hogs.

As opposed to launching a bunch of different apps all the time to check on different things? Also, who is to say that Apple's implementation of them would be hard on either memory or battery?

 

[Zaft]

There will be plenty of widgets on the notification slide come IOS8. Whats the issue exactly?

 

[The Game 161]

I get a full day usage easily and I have plenty of widgets. So it's a myth that it drains battery badly.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I get a full day usage easily and I have plenty of widgets. So it's a myth that it drains battery badly.

It is not a myth. During the old Android days of Gingerbread, badly coded widgets would eat battery because they kept the phone in a virtual state of wake lock. It was the only way they could ensure the widget would not close when an app was run or the phone was put to sleep.
Today though, not really an issue. Users of Android and the Play Store ranking system have grown in ability to sniff out the crap widgets from the quality ones.

 

[mrex]

If you go to the settings and check battery and the usage, how many widgets do you see on the list consuming battery? Probably none. Usually none of the widgets consuming even 1%.

If you have some "location widget" running on the background and refreshing/update time is set very short or some system information widget running all the time then you might see it consuming battery couple procents. But normaly you dont see widgets on the list when checking battery consumption.

On my Note the top one is the screen which has used 51% of the battery usage, internet 12%, tapatalk 12%... last one is Phone standby state 2%. No widgets on the list.

In the old time, when widgets came, they used more battery. But nowadays, they dont.

Edit. Actually I do have a widget which consumes 3-4 procent of the battery usage. It is HD widgets. Didnt remember that, because I dont use that at the moment in my phone.

 

[C DM]

If you go to the settings and check battery and the usage, how many widgets do you see on the list consuming battery? Probably none. Usually none of the widgets consuming even 1%.

If you have some "location widget" running on the background and refreshing/update time is set very short or some system information widget running all the time then you might see it consuming battery couple procents. But normaly you dont see widgets on the list when checking battery consumption.

On my Note the top one is the screen which has used 51% of the battery usage, internet 12%, tapatalk 12%... last one is Phone standby state 2%. No widgets on the list.

In the old time, when widgets came, they used more battery. But nowadays, they dont.

Out of curiosity, what does "internet" usage refer to?

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Great stuff, thanks for the read. Android innovation? Apparently they don't realize it was originally modeled after iOS, and that Google had to scrap the original Android after the iPhone was revealed in 2007.

A load of bullocks continually regurgitated by the iPhone crowd because they are completely unable to grasp to concept of convergent evolution of technology.

 

[MRU]

I detest threads like these ...................... utterly detest them. Nothing productive EVER comes out of a thread like this, other than bickering, arguing and glorified peeing contests.

 

[mrex]

Out of curiosity, what does "internet" usage refer to?

Sorry... it means stock android browser - named as Internet

 

[Toltepeceno]

I detest threads like these ...................... utterly detest them. Nothing productive EVER comes out of a thread like this, other than bickering, arguing and glorified peeing contests.

Just out of curiosity, why do you read and post in them then?

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Apple provides updates and that gets you a higher version number with functionality supported with the hardware you have. The reason, IMO, Siri was not included on the 4 was the hardware wasn't up to snuff to support Siri. Simple explanation.

Yet before apple bought sir it magically functioned perfectly on that hardware? Isnt all the intensive computation done server side anyways?

 

[Winona Northdakota]

As opposed to launching a bunch of different apps all the time to check on different things? Also, who is to say that Apple's implementation of them would be hard on either memory or battery?

With fast application switching, there is less battery drain. The closing and launching of apps is what drains battery, not fast app switching.

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Yet before apple bought sir it magically functioned perfectly on that hardware? Isnt all the intensive computation done server side anyways?

And one can still buy those 3rd party apps. Siri has a deeper level of integration to the OS than those 3rd party apps. They aren't the same.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Ah ha! Got me there. While I cannot speak for the Samsung devices I can for the Xoom. And no, updates were not in a timely fashion. Actually with Verizon they took an obnoxiously long time.

That was not a Google experience device, the wifi version was.

It's not rocket science, if you want to be assured of updates, get a Google backed device, use xda, or get one of the upcoming silver devices.

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With fast application switching, there is less battery drain. The closing and launching of apps is what drains battery, not fast app switching.

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And one can still buy those 3rd party apps. Siri has a deeper level of integration to the OS than those 3rd party apps. They aren't the same.

Deeper system integration and the ability to use private api should make an application more efficient, not less.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Play store over the app store? Well the app store still attracts more developers and apps still come out faster on iOS than Android. Also an openness to unsecured software leads to a lot problems.

App design, show me an Android app design I'd willingly take over it's iOS counter part.

Here you go
http://lifehacker.com/5988944/retroarch-emulates-nearly-every-classic-gaming-console-on-android

Show me the appstore equivalent to that. Hint: none exist.

Openness has its benefits

 

[Oohara]

I detest threads like these ...................... utterly detest them. Nothing productive EVER comes out of a thread like this, other than bickering, arguing and glorified peeing contests.

Not sure what anyone expected with that thread title...

 

[C DM]

With fast application switching, there is less battery drain. The closing and launching of apps is what drains battery, not fast app switching.

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And one can still buy those 3rd party apps. Siri has a deeper level of integration to the OS than those 3rd party apps. They aren't the same.

Fast app switching still updates data when you switch, and if you used enough other apps then it will pretty much reload the app all over in many cases as the memory used for it has already been reallocated to something else. So, again, not necessarily any more power savings there, especially when whatever widget system Apple would put into place would be there with power usage in mind and not some random attempt as many of the Android ones initially were that a lot of people keep on trying to compare things to.

 

[beosound3200]

A load of bullocks continually regurgitated by the iPhone crowd because they are completely unable to grasp to concept of convergent evolution of technology.

Able to grasp, unwilling to support. To you its convergent, to someone else its stealing.

But thank god for the socialist google, how many people would lose their jobs in samsung and htc factories if android didnt replace symbian as a generic os...

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Here you go
http://lifehacker.com/5988944/retroarch-emulates-nearly-every-classic-gaming-console-on-android

Show me the appstore equivalent to that. Hint: none exist.

Openness has its benefits

Yes, one of the few benefits. What are the others? Torrents and themes?

What about the benefits of closeness?

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Able to grasp, unwilling to support. To you its convergent, to someone else its stealing.

Because android is a stolen product/idea?

This kind of thing is like badge of honour here isnt it? If you actually care about the history of it (which I doubt - it would ruin your bashing) check out the following links.

http://www.osnews.com/story/25264/Did_Android_Really_Look_Like_BlackBerry_Before_the_iPhone_

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...er-with-Android-because-of-the-iPhone_id50585

Here's some good information from someone who was actually there - Dianne Hackborn.
http://www.osnews.com/permalink?517243

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Yes, one of the few benefits. What are the others? Torrents and themes?

What about the benefits of closeness?

Things like Tasker, full file management, alternate launchers, proper alternate browsers any of the thousands of widget apps... and on and on and on

 

[MRU]

Just out of curiosity, why do you read and post in them then?

It's that morbid curiosity - you know as your driving your car - you notice there had been an accident up ahead. Whilst its being dealt with, and the best bet is to drive on - you can't help slowing down and having a look ......

 

[mrex]

I really would like to see a tech forum with an age verification or a ability to hide comments written by a child.

 

[Toltepeceno]

It's that morbid curiosity - you know as your driving your car - you notice there had been an accident up ahead. Whilst its being dealt with, and the best bet is to drive on - you can't help slowing down and having a look ......

OK, just curious. Thanks.

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I really would like to see a tech forum with an age verification or a ability to hide comments written by a child.

Excellent idea.

 

[nooaah]

Which made my iPhone 4s unusable after iOS 7. They did the same to iPhone 3Gs owners with iOS 4 and after they fixed it, their iPhone were never the same. To make people buy new phones. Ruined by updates.

I'm sure your Samsung S2 is blazing fast on Android 4.4.3.

Oh, wait.

 

[Michael Goff]

I'm sure your Samsung S2 is blazing fast on Android 4.4.3.

Oh, wait.

If he's willing to throw Cyanogenmod on there... then maybe, not sure how it'd run. It ran quite well on my GNexus until I ended up losing it.

 

[jrswizzle]

It's that morbid curiosity - you know as your driving your car - you notice there had been an accident up ahead. Whilst its being dealt with, and the best bet is to drive on - you can't help slowing down and having a look ......

HA! Yes....there are a ton of threads on here that are EXACTLY like a car wreck....

Loved the Macalope article though. I wish people would just relax. As the Macalope points out - "Neither OS is categorically better than the other, only situationally better."

Never a truer statement.

FWIW, I'm back in the Android world and still have yet to find out what I'm missing out on with an iPhone. I REALLY like the Nexus 5 - its a baller of a phone. But this mysterious otherworldly satisfaction I'm supposed to feel now that I'm using the "superior" platform just hasn't materialized.

Maybe I'm holding it wrong.