That is incorrect. The iPhone 3GS ran iOS 4 very well. It even ran iOS 5 well. It did start to lag when iOS 6 finally came around.
See, you're thinking of the iPhone 3G. And yes, I agree that it was a turd. It's also a 6 year old phone now.
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That is incorrect. The iPhone 3GS ran iOS 4 very well. It even ran iOS 5 well. It did start to lag when iOS 6 finally came around.
See, you're thinking of the iPhone 3G. And yes, I agree that it was a turd. It's also a 6 year old phone now.
I just stop reading this article because i don't know what they are talking about, i am using iPhone 5s and Samsung note 3, both are using for its different purpose, but 5s its give an awesome experience. so i am happy with that.
That is incorrect. The iPhone 3GS ran iOS 4 very well. It even ran iOS 5 well. It did start to lag when iOS 6 finally came around.
See, you're thinking of the iPhone 3G. And yes, I agree that it was a turd. It's also a 6 year old phone now.
In my experience iOS 5 on the 3GS was bad and it got better on iOS 6, which was good since it was the last upgrade it got.
iOS 4 for the 3G should have either been stopped or being dumbed down even further since it is barely usable. Glad one can downgrade from 4 to 3 easily without jb.
I'm sure that Wal mart has an iphone 5 case somewhere (this is walmart remember so you might have to do some digging around) in the electronics section.
All jokes aside though my point is that you can EASILY find iphone 5/5S accessories and cases generally at any electronics store or place such as target and walmart...you are hardpressed to find ANYTHING for any Android phone that doesnt end in S4 or S5....maybe the G3 now but we'll see how long that lasts.
All jokes aside though my point is that you can EASILY find iphone 5/5S accessories and cases generally at any electronics store or place such as target and walmart...you are hardpressed to find ANYTHING for any Android phone that doesnt end in S4 or S5....maybe the G3 now but we'll see how long that lasts.
Apple iPhone owners need to wake up...
Not all cases though. For example you'll lose Touch ID with a lifeproof iPhone 5 case on a 5S Other manufactures like otterbox recognize that gestures are being used now and build cases around that. Like how it's difficult to swipe from the bottom for control panel on a 4S case (designed pre iOS 7) but designed for it on the 5+. Generally you are better off buying a case designed for the model you own. I'll concede that 90% of the time it doesn't matter between a 5 and 5S (although it does between a 4 and 4S, GSM vs CDMA mute switch placement).
RAM is a touchy subject around here. My argument for that is more would only benefit the end user at this point. If nothing else but to keep apps in a suspended state longer. iOS 7 works on 512 mb, however it's not a great experience (I can't put tapatalk in the background and search safari without tapatalk reloading and losing everything I'm typing) and I think most people here would agree more then 512 mb is better. And until you get to the point that every app you have can stay suspended without effected battery life more is better. Keep in mind I'm not talking iOS devices vs android devices, just RAM in iOS and how it's utilized.
Haha, made for a good laugh. But there are so many factual inaccuracies and downright mistruths in that article that I won't bother doing a breakdown of where he's wrong. But I will point out that the very first paragraph says that there is only one screen size on the iPhone, but if you go in to an Apple Store today you can choose between two
I did see him say that the iPhone has 1GB RAM while a few android phones have 3GB. Self-proclaimed hardware "experts" tend to have the silly notion that more RAM is always better. This is simply not true. I have never seen a mobile application that uses more than 400mb of RAM, and that one instance was due to a loop bug. The only reason Android phone makers would hurl 3GB of RAM IN to a smartphone is for pure marketing reasons. Even 2 years from now it will be unnecessary.
The only time that more than 1GB RAM makes a crucial difference is when you are doing true multitasking. But even people who own the Note phones that can do multitasking almost NEVER actually use it, because it's just not very efficient on a mobile phone, even a big one. I'm sure there are a few diehards on this forum who will say that they use multitasking on the Note on a daily basis (lol), but it is such a rarely used feature that even they would have to concede this point. Furthermore, with the added battery drain associated with adding more RAM, it's just not worth it.
Heck, even 1GB RAM on a mobile phone is mostly excessive except in two rare situations where any less would add a 1-2 second delay with a LOT of safari tabs or app states.
The most remarkable development that I've seen in mobile devices recently has been Apple's custom designed A7 CPU. It's a truly amazing chip, and last September made it the fastest mobile smartphone on the market. It has true 64bit execution, 192 reorder entry buffer, etc. stuff that at launch was rivaled only by desktop Haswell chips. That's some real innovation there. Not throwing in another GB of RAM, an NFC chip, or a bigger screen.
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iPhone 5S cases = iPhone 5 cases
Not all cases though. For example you'll lose Touch ID with a lifeproof iPhone 5 case on a 5S Other manufactures like otterbox recognize that gestures are being used now and build cases around that. Like how it's difficult to swipe from the bottom for control panel on a 4S case (designed pre iOS 7) but designed for it on the 5+. Generally you are better off buying a case designed for the model you own. I'll concede that 90% of the time it doesn't matter between a 5 and 5S (although it does between a 4 and 4S, GSM vs CDMA mute switch placement).
RAM is a touchy subject around here. My argument for that is more would only benefit the end user at this point. If nothing else but to keep apps in a suspended state longer. iOS 7 works on 512 mb, however it's not a great experience (I can't put tapatalk in the background and search safari without tapatalk reloading and losing everything I'm typing) and I think most people here would agree more then 512 mb is better. And until you get to the point that every app you have can stay suspended without effected battery life more is better. Keep in mind I'm not talking iOS devices vs android devices, just RAM in iOS and how it's utilized.
I can't say for sure but I think Lifeproof is now manufacturing all of there cases to be compatible with Touch ID. My wife just bought a Lifeproof Nuud for her 5S and it was marketed as a 5/5S case and her Touch ID works with it.
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I have to agree. I think that Apple should uncrease the ram to 2. Not so much that its really needed, but honestly just to make everyone happy. On an Android you can sit and watch your ram all day long and drive yourself crazy, btu at least on an IPhone you would know it has 2 gigs of ram but not be able to sit and stare at it all the time and wonder if its using too much too little not enough etc.
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I have to agree. I think that Apple should uncrease the ram to 2. Not so much that its really needed, but honestly just to make everyone happy. On an Android you can sit and watch your ram all day long and drive yourself crazy, btu at least on an IPhone you would know it has 2 gigs of ram but not be able to sit and stare at it all the time and wonder if its using too much too little not enough etc.
Although I like my iPhone, iPhones in general do not support nearly the same hardware or functionality as some Android powered phones. Apple sticks too much to proprietary stuff and just doesn't want to play well with others. AirPlay is a classic example.
I look at it that apple makes sure all of its devices are interoperable. That means by definition some stuff is proprietary. Airplay is a classic example of stuff working well within the apple environment.
Yea I'd like to find somebody who purchased the Samsung Galaxy S2 within the few months after launch, who ended up actually getting Jelly Bean.
Same here. Partially because I have so many purchased apps that I haven't even ever used. Isn't it funny how that works? I bought Infinity Blade 2 like when it came out and I've yet to play it, lol. I'm late to the party.
It's funny because the free apps can be used indefinitely and the paid apps usually have a lifespan (and a short one at that).
I guess if you have a massive library of iTunes movies you might not want to switch over.
I mostly buy games. I play the game then finish it. I wouldn't care about the ones I bought when I switch over.
INTEGRATION vs. FRAGMENTATION
The fandroids can scream all they want about that "not mattering anymore" but it does. When less than TWENTY percent of the hardware for Android even has ACCESS to the latest version of the OS (4.4.4 I believe), it's a telling statistic.
You could literally buy the "latest and greatest" Android phone today, and within a few months be wondering whether or not you would even be GETTING the latest update, let alone worrying whether or not it is "intentionally slowing your phone down".
Having hundreds of handsets all running different versions of the OS means developers have to decide who to write for. That doesn't matter? Okie dokie.
Then you have resale, hardware quality, SERVICE (when was the last time you walked into the Samsung store with a problem, met with a Savant, and walked out with a working phone??? You didn't. You shipped your phone off and crossed your fingers you'd see it back before the NEW Galaxy was announced)... not to mention that it plays nice with iTunes, AppleTV, thousands of accessories and cars... the list just goes ON AND ON...
Look, the Android platform has come a LONG way from the crapfest it began as. That's great. GFT (good for them). I'll just stay with what works thank you. No sense in hoping something stays the latest and greatest when I can just buy an iPhone and KNOW it will be for at least the next year, then sell it and get the next one (usually making a profit, even if that is lessening).
Android just isn't there yet. Even with it's 64GB of RAM and 18" screen. It just doesn't stack up.
And you start with "fandroids" behaving like one of them just from the other side?
My brother has a 5S in one of those life proof (waterproof) cases and Touch ID works just fine actually, works reliably every time. He also has a Galaxy S5 and I think everyone who has owned both would agree that the iPhone's Touch ID is far superior. It's really obvious that Samsung improvised and copied Apple but didn't have enough time to really optimize it and build a custom sensor with high resolution.
This has more to do with app developers. A lot of developers do not write very good code to run in the background.
Taptalk for example only takes up a minimum of 8.2mb of RAM. Start adding in images and this balloons to 20-30mb. Going from 512mb RAM to 1GB RAM does not fix this situation. More RAM does not make up for sloppy code, and this goes for both iOS and Android.
Adding more RAM isnt a good thing in all cases. RAM consumes more battery life, and in the iPhone Apple has optimized the hardware to sip as little power as it possibly can. Apple wouldn't hesitate to add another gig or two of RAM if it would make the user experience improvements outweigh the power drawbacks. But as it stands, with iOS 7, anything over 1GB is purely excessive.
Some apps do require you to upgrade and won't keep working forever (even if you don't upgrade the OS and the app itself). If the app requires any kind of back-end connectivity, the app maker can dictate what version of the app they will support.
I got timed out of the NBC sports app on iOS 5 on my iPad 3. I haven't updated the iOS, so I can't upgrade the existing app since it requires iOS 6 at minimum and what app exists won't work because NBC requires their latest app for it to function.
I think Cynics point was that the iPhone5 version of the Lifeproof case limits two of the features of the 5s which is the true tone flash and touch id. If you the LP case doesn't have the 5s sticker on it, it does not exactly qualify. Same to be said for the iPhone 5 version of the OB Defender.
How exactly do samsung need to be like Apple. Anything Apple do with the iPhone 6, i. e larger screen, a lot of the features in ios 8 are things that Samsung (android) have been doing for years. However I'm sure the Apple zealots will be screaming innovation and copycat from the rooftops
Well, that 1GB isn't very much WRT Safari page reloading... (albeit it's much less an issue on the iPhone than on iPads)
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If Apple did indeed this, they would have included at least double the amount of RAM in every single iPad (see the excessive memory usage of anything UIWebView, incl. the stock Safari) to make for example web browsing a far better experience (and to lower the need to kill backgrounded tasks). After all, the battery life hit on the large-battery iPad is far-far less than on the iPhone which has a far smaller battery.
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Note: I've published many articles on programming the UIWebView and the related memory problems. So, few people know the related problems better than me.
In a word: there are a LOT of things we programmers just cannot fix. The memory requirements of UIWebView is one of them. We just can't write code that does let us keep, say, more than three tabs of largish Web pages in separate tabs on a Retina iPads in memory. It's physically impossible and can't be fixed other than
- either coming up with our own HTML renderer
- or Apple's adding more RAM
- or Apple's significantly lowering the memory usage of UIWebView
The first is practically undoable. Currently, Opera Mini is the only AppStore browser to have its own renderer. It's VERY light on memory - you can keep dozens of even large Web pages open on any iPad models without reloading issues. However, writing your own HTML + CSS etc. parser + renderer is plain unfeasible for the rest of us. That is, we must use UIWebView with all its problems and we're completely in the hand of Apple WRT memory usage.
You all put the Apple logo at the end of your comments. Cute.
Ok...my turn!
Third party keyboard support. Predictive text. Larger screen size. And more. Guess who had all that before Apple?
You're move!
"shamesung" What are you 12?
Guaranteed if Apple came up with that, iPhone users who be raving about it. So since it wasn't Apple's idea, it's just a gimmick to you.
Riiight, if you say so...
Marketing is a very powerful thing. And Apple's damn good at it.
Stopped taking you seriously as soon as I read that.
World of pain? lol oh you guys are funny.
ok... OK!!! I'm up!
Now that I'm awake WTF do you want??? Oh, to tell me how excited I should be about the S5? Oddly enough, that's what put me to sleep in the first place.
Next time, wake me up when Samsung has an original idea.
Ok...my turn!
Third party keyboard support. Predictive text. Larger screen size. And more. Guess who had all that before Apple?
You're move!
up until the 6 apple were never followers, only a leader. shamesung is a follower, which in return is not being innovative
like i really need to wave my hand over a TOUCHscreen to go to the next page or photo
"shamesung" What are you 12?
Guaranteed if Apple came up with that, iPhone users who be raving about it. So since it wasn't Apple's idea, it's just a gimmick to you.
Riiight, if you say so...
Marketing is a very powerful thing. And Apple's damn good at it.
INTEGRATION vs. FRAGMENTATION
The fandroids can scream all they want about that "not mattering anymore" but it does. When less than TWENTY percent of the hardware for Android even has ACCESS to the latest version of the OS (4.4.4 I believe), it's a telling statistic.
You could literally buy the "latest and greatest" Android phone today, and within a few months be wondering whether or not you would even be GETTING the latest update, let alone worrying whether or not it is "intentionally slowing your phone down".
Having hundreds of handsets all running different versions of the OS means developers have to decide who to write for. That doesn't matter? Okie dokie.
Then you have resale, hardware quality, SERVICE (when was the last time you walked into the Samsung store with a problem, met with a Savant, and walked out with a working phone??? You didn't. You shipped your phone off and crossed your fingers you'd see it back before the NEW Galaxy was announced)... not to mention that it plays nice with iTunes, AppleTV, thousands of accessories and cars... the list just goes ON AND ON...
Look, the Android platform has come a LONG way from the crapfest it began as. That's great. GFT (good for them). I'll just stay with what works thank you. No sense in hoping something stays the latest and greatest when I can just buy an iPhone and KNOW it will be for at least the next year, then sell it and get the next one (usually making a profit, even if that is lessening).
Android just isn't there yet. Even with it's 64GB of RAM and 18" screen. It just doesn't stack up.
Stopped taking you seriously as soon as I read that.
World of pain? lol oh you guys are funny.