Apple provides updates and that gets you a higher version number with functionality supported with the hardware you have. The reason, IMO, Siri was not included on the 4 was the hardware wasn't up to snuff to support Siri. Simple explanation.
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Apple iPhone owners need to wake up...
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Apple provides updates and that gets you a higher version number with functionality supported with the hardware you have. The reason, IMO, Siri was not included on the 4 was the hardware wasn't up to snuff to support Siri. Simple explanation.
IMO I feel that (example) If I own an iPad 2 then I should do research before jumping head first into a brand new OS when I have a 3 year old device. On Android you aren't even given the chance to get the newest updates unless you have one of the newer or more supported devices. At least Apple gives users the opportunity to get the new updates, to a certain extent.
Good luck getting ONE single update on a Galaxy device, maybe 2 if you have a Google edition or Nexus device. And all the other phones forget it. And if updates don't matter to end users, why are they doing them?? If it adds nothing, why have them at all?! And what about the quality of those apps that work on 5 versions of Android compared to the quality of those same titles from the Apple App Store? Don't even get me started.
That is a simple explanation but I don't buy it. Why does my iPad 3 have 3D flyover? Over NYC it's TERRIBLY laggy. The hardware obviously isn't there to support it. And why does Siri work just as well between the iPad 2 and 3 yet the 2 doesn't have it?
You can't "take away" a feature that works fine (Siri from App Store) then tell you the device can't handle it due to hardware then give you another feature which is blatantly obvious the hardware is lacking.
Excuse my rant but this is bringing up memories of how annoyed I've been with Apple updates.
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I'm not sure if you are referring to my post or not so take this with a grain of salt. But no matter how many times you do or don't update the iPad 2 it will still be lacking certain feature support (Siri in my above example). It runs fine with iOS 7 IMO, I didn't regret upgrading.
Good luck finding any accessories for that android device as well, unless your okay with getting stuff for random companies on Amazon.
Same here. I LOVED the customizability and many physical buttons of the old Wimdows CE devices - I was able to do more with them than my current 5s. We've gone backwards over the last decade. The only two things nicer about my 5s are capacitive screen and higher resolution.
You guys should at least research a LITTLE BIT before posting. I know the Galaxy S2 got gingerbread, ice cream sandwich and jelly bean. The S3 got ice cream sandwich, jelly bean and KitKat. And now we are caught up. Nexus devices have been getting 3 versions of Android since the Nexus S. My Motorola Xoom got honeycomb, ice cream sandwich and Jelly bean.
App quality is hit or miss. GENERALLY I prefer iOS apps (that's why I use Apple products). But I say hit or miss because there are plenty apps that are better on Android. Facebook is a popular app and I find it goes back and forth between which version (iOS and Android) sucks more.
There is an inherent compatibility built into Android that an dev doesn't even need to do anything to differently. Even if you can't download the app because the dev restricts it to a newer version of the OS if you just download the APK you'll find it works just fine. Like last night I download a Logitech program for OSX that supports version 10.7.x, I'm on Mavericks but it still worked just fine.
Are you asking why do updates and add features to an OS? That's pretty obvious isn't it? Just don't expect the update when comparatively speaking of Android unless you have a very new device OR don't expect all the features with iOS unless you have a very new device.
I don't even like Samsung mobile devices yet I feel I'm defending them due to all the FUD like saying you'll be lucky to get one update.
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I'm just gonna be that guy in this thread I guess.
What accessories do you mean?
Did all the models for all the different carriers get those, and got them in a reasonable time period? I've often seen that the carriers will either not release some updates or will take forever to get them out, which has a pretty big impact on it all for those who actually care about it.You guys should at least research a LITTLE BIT before posting. I know the Galaxy S2 got gingerbread, ice cream sandwich and jelly bean. The S3 got ice cream sandwich, jelly bean and KitKat. And now we are caught up. Nexus devices have been getting 3 versions of Android since the Nexus S. My Motorola Xoom got honeycomb, ice cream sandwich and Jelly bean.
App quality is hit or miss. GENERALLY I prefer iOS apps (that's why I use Apple products). But I say hit or miss because there are plenty apps that are better on Android. Facebook is a popular app and I find it goes back and forth between which version (iOS and Android) sucks more.
There is an inherent compatibility built into Android that an dev doesn't even need to do anything to differently. Even if you can't download the app because the dev restricts it to a newer version of the OS if you just download the APK you'll find it works just fine. Like last night I download a Logitech program for OSX that supports version 10.7.x, I'm on Mavericks but it still worked just fine.
Are you asking why do updates and add features to an OS? That's pretty obvious isn't it? Just don't expect the update when comparatively speaking of Android unless you have a very new device OR don't expect all the features with iOS unless you have a very new device.
I don't even like Samsung mobile devices yet I feel I'm defending them due to all the FUD like saying you'll be lucky to get one update.
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I'm just gonna be that guy in this thread I guess.
What accessories do you mean?
Ah ha! Got me there. While I cannot speak for the Samsung devices I can for the Xoom. And no, updates were not in a timely fashion. Actually with Verizon they took an obnoxiously long time.
I hear you. My wife's iPad 2 works OKAY on iOS 7 after I did some tweaks but it's definitely sluggish. And I agree about Siri.
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What accessories? How about cases? Tell me what target, walmart, or cellular store you can walk in and find anything for something as recent as a Note 3?
And as far as updates go, those phones might have received the updates at some point but it was not at launch. I know. I owned a Galaxy S2, 3, 4, Note 2 and Note 3.
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What accessories? How about cases? Tell me what target, walmart, or cellular store you can walk in and find anything for something as recent as a Note 3?
And as far as updates go, those phones might have received the updates at some point but it was not at launch. I know. I owned a Galaxy S2, 3, 4, Note 2 and Note 3.
You guys should at least research a LITTLE BIT before posting. I know the Galaxy S2 got gingerbread, ice cream sandwich and jelly bean. The S3 got ice cream sandwich, jelly bean and KitKat. And now we are caught up. Nexus devices have been getting 3 versions of Android since the Nexus S. My Motorola Xoom got honeycomb, ice cream sandwich and Jelly bean.
App quality is hit or miss. GENERALLY I prefer iOS apps (that's why I use Apple products). But I say hit or miss because there are plenty apps that are better on Android. Facebook is a popular app and I find it goes back and forth between which version (iOS and Android) sucks more.
There is an inherent compatibility built into Android that an dev doesn't even need to do anything to differently. Even if you can't download the app because the dev restricts it to a newer version of the OS if you just download the APK you'll find it works just fine. Like last night I download a Logitech program for OSX that supports version 10.7.x, I'm on Mavericks but it still worked just fine.
Are you asking why do updates and add features to an OS? That's pretty obvious isn't it? Just don't expect the update when comparatively speaking of Android unless you have a very new device OR don't expect all the features with iOS unless you have a very new device.
I don't even like Samsung mobile devices yet I feel I'm defending them due to all the FUD like saying you'll be lucky to get one update.
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I'm just gonna be that guy in this thread I guess.
What accessories do you mean?
If you only look for apps available on both platforms, then okay.
Here are some apps not available for Android OS: Traktor DJ, Filtatron, Nanostudio, JACK audio. These aren't obscure, if you are a music producer.
It's not only a problem of latency now. There needs to be OS level support for multiple outs and audio devices. Android is not on par and it has no relevance in the tablet world, besides the classic fragmentation problems. OSS4, ALSA, Jack and pulseaudio aren't available with Android Linux. Tiny ALSA is, though it really isn't very customizable to suit the needs of professional audio producers.
I have no idea about 3d flyover and don't even know if it exists on my ipad 2. However, the ipad 2 itself runs fine on 7.1.2, except for certain websites that lag slightly. These websites used to crash on IOS 6...so I'll take the slight lag.
As far as SIRI goes, my previous explanation is my thought on the matter. I don't use it on my iphone 5s so that it is not on my ipad 2 is no great loss (for me only).
It's funny that he uses the RAM argument to claim iOS devices sometimes get sluggish when the 5S is smoother than Android devices loaded with 3GBs of RAM.
Also trying to use the slow speed of the iPhone 4 on iOS 7 as an example, you'd be hard pressed to find any Android phone from 2010 or even 2011 that's still usable. Even the Androids from 2012 have pretty much been abandoned by their manufacturers at this point.
There's really no comparison. Unless you choose to trade off everything else for a bigger screen, I see no reason to use an Android device.
According to their latest financials it seems that Samsung is having trouble convincing people that their products are innovative and worth buying. Perhaps it is them who need to become more innovative.
Also trying to use the slow speed of the iPhone 4 on iOS 7 as an example, you'd be hard pressed to find any Android phone from 2010 or even 2011 that's still usable. Even the Androids from 2012 have pretty much been abandoned by their manufacturers at this point.
There's really no comparison. Unless you choose to trade off everything else for a bigger screen, I see no reason to use an Android device.
According to their latest financials it seems that Samsung is having trouble convincing people that their products are innovative and worth buying. Perhaps it is them who need to become more innovative.
I said proprietary apps for the company you work for, I guess that is poorly worded but you get the point. Unless you think that music producers are the majority of iPhone users? Seems like it would be a niche market.
You, and I'm sure many others have very good APP based reasons that require you staying with Apple. I'm not debating that. Although I only know of one, the only music producers I know (I wouldn't say amateur but certainly not professional) has a studio and doesn't use a mobile OS at all.
Thats why I asked "what accessories?".
Was I supposed to guess cases for a Note 3 from Wal-Mart? Gimme a break...
You are correct though, my local Wal-Mart does not have them in stock. Neither does it have any iPhone 5S cases in stock. What does that prove?
I don't quiet care about other phones. I understand there're Android phones that can do more than an iPhone, but like I said: I don't care. I'm happy with my iPhone 4s, planning on upgrading to the 6. I like being in the Apple ecosystem, I'm familiar with it, I'm happy with, I don't need to switch.
Apple iPhone owners need to wake up...
I doubt seriously that music producers are the majority of iOS users, though I would bet there are far more on iOS than Android OS.
Which opens the door to any iOS user. One doesn't need to be a music producer to download and learn to use any of the mentioned apps on iOS. Android, well, totally out of luck, my friend, regardless of any niche market stereotype.
Let's take a closer look at popularity and top grossing. iMaschine, like Traktor DJ is from Native Instruments, is listed as #33 in the App Store top paid music apps. iMaschine is not available for Android OS. #32 is Shazam Encore, which is also available for Android OS. IMaschine is #41 with the top grossing App Store music apps, Shazam (free version) is #33 with top grossing App Store music apps.
I doubt seriously that music producers are the majority of iOS users, though I would bet there are far more on iOS than Android OS.
Which opens the door to any iOS user. One doesn't need to be a music producer to download and learn to use any of the mentioned apps on iOS. Android, well, totally out of luck, my friend, regardless of any niche market stereotype.
Let's take a closer look at popularity and top grossing. iMaschine, like Traktor DJ is from Native Instruments, is listed as #33 in the App Store top paid music apps. iMaschine is not available for Android OS. #32 is Shazam Encore, which is also available for Android OS. IMaschine is #41 with the top grossing App Store music apps, Shazam (free version) is #33 with top grossing App Store music apps.
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Haha, made for a good laugh. But there are so many factual inaccuracies and downright mistruths in that article that I won't bother doing a breakdown of where he's wrong. But I will point out that the very first paragraph says that there is only one screen size on the iPhone, but if you go in to an Apple Store today you can choose between two Just goes to show you the quality of his research.
I did see him say that the iPhone has 1GB RAM while a few android phones have 3GB. Self-proclaimed hardware "experts" tend to have the silly notion that more RAM is always better. This is simply not true. I have never seen a mobile application that uses more than 400mb of RAM, and that one instance was due to a loop bug. The only reason Android phone makers would hurl 3GB of RAM IN to a smartphone is for pure marketing reasons. Even 2 years from now it will be unnecessary.
The only time that more than 1GB RAM makes a crucial difference is when you are doing true multitasking. But even people who own the Note phones that can do multitasking almost NEVER actually use it, because it's just not very efficient on a mobile phone, even a big one. I'm sure there are a few diehards on this forum who will say that they use multitasking on the Note on a daily basis (lol), but it is such a rarely used feature that even they would have to concede this point. Furthermore, with the added battery drain associated with adding more RAM, it's just not worth it.
Heck, even 1GB RAM on a mobile phone is mostly excessive except in two rare situations where any less would add a 1-2 second delay with a LOT of safari tabs or app states.
The most remarkable development that I've seen in mobile devices recently has been Apple's custom designed A7 CPU. It's a truly amazing chip, and last September made it the fastest mobile smartphone on the market. It has true 64bit execution, 192 reorder entry buffer, etc. stuff that at launch was rivaled only by desktop Haswell chips. That's some real innovation there. Not throwing in another GB of RAM, an NFC chip, or a bigger screen.
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iPhone 5S cases = iPhone 5 cases
Just goes to show you the quality of his research. I did see him say that the iPhone has 1GB RAM while a few android phones have 3GB. Self-proclaimed hardware "experts" tend to have the silly notion that more RAM is always better. This is simply not true. I have never seen a mobile application that uses more than 400mb of RAM, and that one instance was due to a loop bug. The only reason Android phone makers would hurl 3GB of RAM IN to a smartphone is for pure marketing reasons. Even 2 years from now it will be unnecessary.
The only time that more than 1GB RAM makes a crucial difference is when you are doing true multitasking. But even people who own the Note phones that can do multitasking almost NEVER actually use it, because it's just not very efficient on a mobile phone, even a big one. I'm sure there are a few diehards on this forum who will say that they use multitasking on the Note on a daily basis (lol), but it is such a rarely used feature that even they would have to concede this point. Furthermore, with the added battery drain associated with adding more RAM, it's just not worth it.
Heck, even 1GB RAM on a mobile phone is mostly excessive except in two rare situations where any less would add a 1-2 second delay with a LOT of safari tabs or app states.
The most remarkable development that I've seen in mobile devices recently has been Apple's custom designed A7 CPU. It's a truly amazing chip, and last September made it the fastest mobile smartphone on the market. It has true 64bit execution, 192 reorder entry buffer, etc. stuff that at launch was rivaled only by desktop Haswell chips. That's some real innovation there. Not throwing in another GB of RAM, an NFC chip, or a bigger screen.
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iPhone 5S cases = iPhone 5 cases
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Haha, made for a good laugh. But there are so many factual inaccuracies and downright mistruths in that article that I won't bother doing a breakdown of where he's wrong. But I will point out that the very first paragraph says that there is only one screen size on the iPhone, but if you go in to an Apple Store today you can choose between two
I did see him say that the iPhone has 1GB RAM while a few android phones have 3GB. Self-proclaimed hardware "experts" tend to have the silly notion that more RAM is always better. This is simply not true. I have never seen a mobile application that uses more than 400mb of RAM, and that one instance was due to a loop bug. The only reason Android phone makers would hurl 3GB of RAM IN to a smartphone is for pure marketing reasons. Even 2 years from now it will be unnecessary.
The only time that more than 1GB RAM makes a crucial difference is when you are doing true multitasking. But even people who own the Note phones that can do multitasking almost NEVER actually use it, because it's just not very efficient on a mobile phone, even a big one. I'm sure there are a few diehards on this forum who will say that they use multitasking on the Note on a daily basis (lol), but it is such a rarely used feature that even they would have to concede this point. Furthermore, with the added battery drain associated with adding more RAM, it's just not worth it.
Heck, even 1GB RAM on a mobile phone is mostly excessive except in two rare situations where any less would add a 1-2 second delay with a LOT of safari tabs or app states.
The most remarkable development that I've seen in mobile devices recently has been Apple's custom designed A7 CPU. It's a truly amazing chip, and last September made it the fastest mobile smartphone on the market. It has true 64bit execution, 192 reorder entry buffer, etc. stuff that at launch was rivaled only by desktop Haswell chips. That's some real innovation there. Not throwing in another GB of RAM, an NFC chip, or a bigger screen.
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iPhone 5S cases = iPhone 5 cases
Good response, I couldn't agree more. Especially the part about the a7. Most people do not understand the importance of it.
Even if there was something like that, would you buy all the paid apps once again?
I think I'll chime in here, the way I see it is once the iPhone 6 comes out or what ever name Apple would like to stamp it with, this article will turn into, "how Samsung needs to be more like Apple" because if the leaks are accurate than Samsung is in for a world of pain once a large screen iPhone comes out and the new processor from apple is released IMO