Not the best example IMO. Your new civic definitely does not feel like a 97 let alone an 86. There are very noticeable differences. It’ll probably the same as a 2023 or 2024 model though.
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Apple is trying to make computers the yearly update cycle like iphone.
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New hardware should be released as frequently as possible, so that anyone buying doesn't have to say "should I wait or buy now"? They will always know they are buying something new.
New OSes, on the other hand, should be released as infrequently as possible. An OS like 10.4 Tiger that lives for years becomes the most stable and reliable. Meanwhile, who can keep track of Big Sur vs Monterey and now Ventura?
New OSes, on the other hand, should be released as infrequently as possible. An OS like 10.4 Tiger that lives for years becomes the most stable and reliable. Meanwhile, who can keep track of Big Sur vs Monterey and now Ventura?
The problem with going quickly in the new specs is price. Higher standards means higher prices on average.
I might be wrong, but what about MacBooks? Didn’t Apple release new MacBooks in 2012 and 2013 and 2014 and so on?
Mac Pro has had 4 years of no updates. Mac mini has had 5 years. iMac has 2 years without updates. MacBook Pros have has up to 2 and a half years without updates. MacBook Air had a 3 year stretch.
So yeah... Apple has taken their time with hardware updates in several cases.
What is happening. Why are all these "Apple Fans" going crazy making up problems that aren't problems.
Gotta complain about something.
Uhh, no one is forcing you to buy a new Mac every year lmao. The updates to the Apple Silicon Macs are minor. If you already got an M1 Macbook there's no reason to get the new M2 ones unless you want a magsafe port. Outside of the GPU bump and media engine M1 isn't far behind M2, and the M1 machines are a lot cheaper than the M2 ones. You still can't use more than one extra display on M2, so why would you upgrade from M1 to M2? M1 Pro vs M1 was a bigger leap than this.
That sounds great to me. When my 7 year old iMac died I was somewhat stuck because it had been a long time since a new model had been released. I didn't want to buy a new one with much older specs. If one had been released in the last year that would be totally different.
The upgrade cycle back when they were on Intel simply did not make sense. So far, we don't have any indication that they want to move on a yearly upgrade cycle (the last Mac Mini was released nearly two years ago now), but I really hope that's what happens. Nobody forces me to upgrade. But I'm glad better products keep on coming out. And I'm glad the used market will become more interesting.
Take the Mac Pro for example.
This is the best computer in Apple's lineup. It's supposed to shine. It's supposed to tell the competition : we stand on top of the mountain and you don't. Well, well... it does anything but that. Hasn't been updated in 3 years. Hadn't been updated in 6 years before that. Now it's ridiculous, because you can pay 4X less and just buy a Mac Studio instead, and even the best upgrades on the CPU/GPU on the Mac Studio make it a bit overpriced compared to a similarly spec'ed PC. So clearly, the Mac Pro is overpriced as f**k.
Take the Mac Pro for example.
This is the best computer in Apple's lineup. It's supposed to shine. It's supposed to tell the competition : we stand on top of the mountain and you don't. Well, well... it does anything but that. Hasn't been updated in 3 years. Hadn't been updated in 6 years before that. Now it's ridiculous, because you can pay 4X less and just buy a Mac Studio instead, and even the best upgrades on the CPU/GPU on the Mac Studio make it a bit overpriced compared to a similarly spec'ed PC. So clearly, the Mac Pro is overpriced as f**k.
I really think that Apple should just start limiting Mac updates to every 5 years. Releasing new Macs every year is just forced obsolescence.
Well the reason the Intel update cycle was bad was because Apple had to wait for Intel for the CPUs and then had to design the Macs around those CPUs. Since Intel kept having to move goalposts back and decided instead of going smaller and more efficient they decided to add more cores, that lead to design issues with the thinner designs Apple wanted to do. It's why they went with their own custom ARM chips instead so they no longer had to wait on anyone and could design the Macs they wanted however they wanted whenever they wanted. It's honestly nice how we can get constant new Macs because of that.
What is this in reference to? Do you mean Apple lowered its own trade-in offers? They were always miles away from the best price you could get. I understand there's a simplicity involved, but trading in with Apple directly has never been the best way to get maximum value out of a device.
This doesn't make any sense. Just because a new Mac is out does not mean yours will suddenly stop working.
M2 Macs are most definitely not created or marketed towards M1 owners, but people spending too much times in these forums and MaxTech videos suddenly have FOMO just because they're missing out on a 20% CPU performance bump, that they won't even notice in real world usage.
Ironically, Apple computers used to consistently be updated every 6-12 months in the 2000s. Quicker advancement is a good thing, not a bad thing; your current computer won't stop working just because there's a new one that's 10% faster in certain tasks.
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Lucky are those who waited a long time to upgrade their Intel Macs for Apple silicon (M1 or M2). In 2019 I was so close to splurging on a 16". Still a fine machine but I would have had buyer's remorse once the M1 Pro came out. The upgrade to M1 was a *huge* bang for your buck upgrade and still is. Now that we're living in the Apple silicon era for Mac, they are just going to move incrementally which makes sense until Intel or other chip manufacturers try to leapfrog. My guess is M3 or M4 will be another huge leap because that's when those other chip makers catch up.
I'm not concerned about the hardware as much as I am the operating system. IMO the improvements in operating systems are, relatively speaking, minimal and don't justify upgrading to each new release. The only problem is that developers tend to drop support for older operating system releases far sooner than I would like.
Case in point...my father had a 2011 MBA which was more than capable for his needs. Except Microsoft is no longer supporting Office on any macOS version older than Catalina. Since his MBA cannot run anything past High Sierra he was unable to use the latest version of Office. He ended replacing the 2011 MBA with a 2015 MBA in order to use Office even though the 2011 MBA was, from a hardware perspective, more than capable or running the latest version of Office.
Who made you buy a new iphone every year? People who have that much spare money lying around and care that little about sustainability and the environment are propably THE target audience for a hypothetical shorter upgrade cycle for macs.
If there is one company that's really good at playing off of its customers' FOMO, it's Apple.
Here's the deal though: The rest is your own fault. Nobody came to your house and forced you to order anything. You did that all by yourself. Apple also doesn't control/care about/consider "resale value" when adding or removing features. They are only thinking about what is best for the roadmap going forward, not what you can get on Swappa for your old device.
The existence of M2 does not cause all M1 machines to stop working. The existence of M1 also didn't stop all Intel machines from working. Just use your computer until it can't do the job anymore, then replace it with the best option available when the time comes. Nobody is judging you for not having the best MacBook every year.
Here's the deal though: The rest is your own fault. Nobody came to your house and forced you to order anything. You did that all by yourself. Apple also doesn't control/care about/consider "resale value" when adding or removing features. They are only thinking about what is best for the roadmap going forward, not what you can get on Swappa for your old device.
The existence of M2 does not cause all M1 machines to stop working. The existence of M1 also didn't stop all Intel machines from working. Just use your computer until it can't do the job anymore, then replace it with the best option available when the time comes. Nobody is judging you for not having the best MacBook every year.