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Apple Mac Hardware - Photoshop Test

I haven't been available to post in months. Here are my results to add to the list.

iMac G4 15" 700MHz 512MB 10.4.3 PS CS2 ......... 5:16
PowerBook G4 12" 1.5GHz 768MB 10.4.4 PS CS2.. 2:20
 
Anybody with an Macintel iMac care to contribute some rosetta test results?

Really keen to see how the superior chip would measure up to the current PowerPC offerings.
 
Radial blur (at least in the ars technica review) works very well in rosetta. It beat out the native imac G5. But that was the only filter that worked that way. The rest were significantly slower than running native. ...usable, but slower. It's kinda freakish that the only filter that seems unaffected by emulation would be radial blur...such is life.

I'd be interested in some real world uses ..say rotate an arbitrary amount (straighten a horizon), do an contrast unsharpmask with low amount and high radius, or a gaussian blur, etc. Maybe an action wth several filters and try machines with more ram than the one in the ars technica review? Perhaps ram could compensate.
 
cecirdr said:
Radial blur (at least in the ars technica review) works very well in rosetta. It beat out the native imac G5. But that was the only filter that worked that way. The rest were significantly slower than running native. ...usable, but slower. It's kinda freakish that the only filter that seems unaffected by emulation would be radial blur...such is life.

I'd be interested in some real world uses ..say rotate an arbitrary amount (straighten a horizon), do an contrast unsharpmask with low amount and high radius, or a gaussian blur, etc. Maybe an action wth several filters and try machines with more ram than the one in the ars technica review? Perhaps ram could compensate.
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We/I am working on a real world test bench for macs - this includes photoshop.

that ars article is biased - 256mb ram per core in the imac - 1gb per core in the g5 and 2.25 gb per core in the powermac g5..... rubbish.
 
Yeah...the ram should be matched. I agree. It really is freaky to have chosen the only filter though that is showing not only no slow down, but a speed up in emulation. Who'd have thought?
 
I ran the test on my windows xp home notebook with photoshop cs2, results were:

2 minutes and 3 seconds

on a 2.0ghz celeron m (overclocked celeron 370) with 1.5gigs of ram, 5400rpm hdd (60gigs), 128mb shared 200m ati gpu.


I also ran the test on my B&W powermac g3 (450mhz with 512mb ram running tiger) with photoshop cs1, results were:

8 minutes, :D
 
Head-to-Head Results

Dell Precision PWS380
Pentium 4 @ 2.8GHz
1 GB RAM
1 minute, 32 seconds

Apple PowerBook
G4 @ 1GHz
1 GB RAM
2 minutes, 58 seconds

EDIT: I found it interesting that a processor with almost three times the Megahertz completed the test less than twice as fast....
 
imac 17" 512mb

Took 53 seconds on mine.
Overall tho, the older ppc aps do feel considerably slower... be warned.
It may do this blur test three times as fast as my ibook 900mhz G3, but it also takes twice as long as the g3 to open a complex mutli layer file i am working on.
The new universsal binaries do fly though. :)
 
hmmm

actually, i correct that statement....
its very unequal... some files seem to take longer for photoshop to open, up to twice as long in fact, but many more actually open quicker...
Overall its looking good.
 
More Rosetta tests necessary

cecirdr said:
Yeah...the ram should be matched. I agree. It really is freaky to have chosen the only filter though that is showing not only no slow down, but a speed up in emulation. Who'd have thought?
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Yes, cecirdr, this is a strange result. The radial blur is one of the few tests that shine. Makes you wonder if somehow that part of rosetta was optimized (not sure if it could be) because RB is often the quick test used to determine hardware speed. We need to see the whole thing run again with at least 1gb RAM, preferably 2gb.

It is hard to know what to do if you need photoshop speed. Certainly the MacBookPro will not be faster than the 2.0ghz intel imac, so this means photoshop will not be viable on intel mac until adobe releases universal binaries and/or apple tweaks rosetta and the os to better utilize the intel chips. I bet the quad G5s will be king of the hill for the rest of the year. For non-professional switchers, the intel mac is truly compelling because of iLife speed.

I think that Apple has often had better chips than the windows crowd, but there never were adequate resources allocated at the graphics card manufacturers, the software developers, and the chipmaker compiler coders to fully optimize for the chips. I hope Apple is serious about incentivizing developers to really rewrite better apps for the new chips. This will be very hard, short of bribing. It is unlikely that programmers will be able to match the level of coding for both PPC and Intel, and one will have to suffer, my guess being the PPC side which will force apple loyalists to buy the new hardware. One can only hope that Adobe and Microsoft feel compelled to allocate the necessary resources to optimize universal binaries. Even if it were possible, I doubt that Microsoft would ever make Office truly run better on a Mac then on a windows machine.
 
BakedBeans said:
i Am lovin that speed - more ram will really boost that.
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Yeah, my iMac feels a bit sluggish with 512Mb, much more sluggish than the demo models I played with that had 1Gb.

I bought a 1Gb stick and am awaiting its arrival, but now you all are making me concerned about the mismatched RAM sizes. I thought I'd be OK at 1.5Gb. Maybe I'll call Apple and inquire more.
 
seeing as the bandwidth of your ram in single channel mode is equal to the bandwidth of the FSB, their will be no difference between dual and single channel memory for your imac, feel free to install non matching pairs.
 
Quad G5, 10.4.4, 4 GB of RAM...

As stated:
Specs are -
Quad G5 @ 2.5 GHz per core
4 GB of memory
A WD Raptor 10K Hard Drive
Running Photoshop CS 2

My Results were as follows:
Time for the pony rotation:
19 seconds

For reference, Generik states:
"46 seconds, dual Opteron 246 (2Ghz), 2.5GB of ram, running on Windows XP SP2..."
 
How about this test that I've set up, which uses a lot more features in Photoshop to give an overall comparison on performance. I would really love to compare my time on this with someone who is using a new 20" Intel iMac with 2Gb of RAM...

Click here to download the test photo.
Click here to download the Photoshop action set.

Before you time the test, restart your machine and open Photoshop only.

I've done this test on my 1Ghz G4 Powerbook (17") and it took me 1min 4sec, using Photoshop CS2.

Thanks in advance!
Chuck.

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If you can't use the action for some reason, you can record it manually by doing the following:

...OPEN THE IMAGE...

***START RECORDING THE NEW ACTION***

1 - Change mode to CMYK
2 - Open Colour Balance, and change colour levels to -10 for ALL THREE, on shadows, midtones AND highlights
3 - Open Curves, put a point in the middle of the line, and then type INPUT=50, OUTPUT=75
4 - Go to Canvas Size, and change dimensions to: w=264.67mm, h=179.32mm
5 - Open Brightness/Contrast, and make B=+20, C=+10
6 - Open Image Size, and change width to 6000 pixels, height to 3989 pixels (height will be right automatically if you've got 'constrain proportions' checked)
7 - Open Filter > Sharpen > select 'Sharpen'
8 - Double click on the layer 'Background' (in layers palette) and then click OK, (so it's now call 'layer 0')
9 - Duplicate the layer, (by dragging 'layer 0' onto the new layer icon down the bottom of the palette)
10 - Flatten the image
11 - Then go File > Save As = 'DSC_0045.tif' (NOTE: saved as TIF file with no compression)
12 - Close the window

*** STOP THE ACTION RECORDING ***
 
G5 Dual 2.0Ghz 2Gig Ram, 240GB Hdd, 9800Pro
46 Secs

Im really upset though caus my mate has a
Dual Opteron 1.8Ghz 2GB RAM (CL2 Registered ECC low latancy ram).
and dual raid set up 2x 74Gb raptors raid 0 and 4x 36Gb raptors raid 0).

He gets 39 secs?
It must be his fast RAM or raid 0 scratch disc.
He even showed me the CPU usage and its not even using both CPUs to the max.

This really annoys me after all the Jobs propaganda touting the power mac G5the fastest PC in the world.

the worst thing is my mate is getting another 2Gig RAM and two new dual core opterons :eek:

I say its time for the Dual g5s replacement.
I will wait till then i dont think i will upgrade to quad core G5s not if they are going to have a intel replacement, i wish they would use Opterons or lets hope intel can at least find something that matches opterons, caus the Xeons are crap
 
iMac core duo 17" w/ a 24" Dell in tandem, 1.5GB of RAM

51 seconds in Adobe CS.

Amazing time through emulation. Can't wait to see what these puppies can do natively.
 
Ryan T. said:
iMac core duo 17" w/ a 24" Dell in tandem, 1.5GB of RAM

51 seconds in Adobe CS.

Amazing time through emulation. Can't wait to see what these puppies can do natively.
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Did you upgrade the RAM yourself? Could you run the test with only 512Mb and see what effect it has?

Also, did you use your machine extensively before moving to 1.5Gb? Did it make a big difference? My 20" Core Duo seems a bit sluggish. Extra 1Gb hasn't arrived yet so I'm still running at 512.
 
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